Stupid Saleh made Mims a head case

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Hex said:

If you're advising people to not click, it probably means you shouldn't be posting what you are

It’s like whipping out your wiener in a daycare parking lot and blaming people for looking 

[Bleedin Green]

34 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

So, a hypothetical. Zach Wilson is a suburban mama’s boy from Utah who almost lost his starting job because his coach at BYU thought he was a mush. I’d imagine he’s the sort of man-boy who’s ego you, as his coach, would commit resources to protect (hello John Beck!) 

As this pertains to Mims, if you bash his head in to develop him, you’re getting nada out of him. But if you give him a little Zach Wilson preferential treatment, maybe you end up with a 1,000 yard receiver. I think you gotta make concessions in some cases, just to see if it bears fruit

I would be all for the Jets giving every player their own personal Beck if that did the trick.  However, for now Saleh and LaFleur have far bigger issues on their hands to worry about than the #5/#6 WR.  There's not much they can right do now if he can hardly catch a pass after being given back-to-back starts, which is about as much preferential treatment as he can hope for mid-season.

That could quickly enough change throughout offseason/camp/preseason next year, especially as the WR room is sure to thin out. That's probably where he has the best chance to get it all together, particularly if he's so reliant on others to get there.

[Claymation]

You must have no kids or players in little league
 
The more you pressure these talented kids the better chance you ruin them
 
 

Mims’ problem is that he is a body catcher. He doesn’t catch the ball with his hands, he traps the ball to his body.

[Barton]

The guy who started this thread may not be off the mark. Mims looked solid last year. WRs with confidence problems drop more balls, just saying. 

[DetroitRed]

The only thing worse than starting this thread is responding to it

 

myself included 

[tee]

Mims hasn't learned to catch the ball w/ his HANDS, not w/ chest/ shoulder pads. Only partly Saleh/Jets' coaching fault.

[68JET11]

5 hours ago, Fibonacci said:

Mims drops suck this year- agree

But he didn’t have that issue last year.

Correct he did not... In fact if you look at some of the catches he's made, they are head turners. That said, he needs to grow a pair, and take care of business like a man.

[68JET11]

He's also going to start getting called for OPI. for pushing off if the ref's start watching film. I mentioned this when he was drafted, and he still hasn't learned to stop doing it when he's in man coverage.

[Irish Jet]

The excuses people are willing to make for this guy.

Last week someone started a thread singling him out for praise when he had three targets, two catches and dropped a potentially game changing TD in the endzone that cost us 4 points.

The cultish behaviour rivals the JD guys although no doubt there’s a link.

[Biggs]

He made room in his head to learn the O by forgetting how to catch.  

[EM31]

Is Mims Italian?

 

[Claymation]

The guy who started this thread may not be off the mark. Mims looked solid last year. WRs with confidence problems drop more balls, just saying. 

He had issues with drops his senior year at Baylor. This issue isn’t Jets-centric problem, it’s a Denzel problem.

[Butterfield]

7 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Mims ruined mims, coaches do not make you drop the ball, he stinks and has no one to blame but himself.

Blame Saleh for the putrid defense.

I disagree.  He has no confidence right now and coaches can have a major impact on the confidence of a player.  

[EM31]

Sand in vagina can be rough I should think

[Integrity28]

7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I feel that receiver is a position that requires 120% overload delusional amounts of confidence and that’s why all great receivers are narcissistic asswipes. I believe they tried to break Mims down to build him back up, but he’s just gonna stay down. You can’t **** with every player the same way, and Mims strikes me as a guy who only responds to positive, upbeat coaching. I think (as discussed in that Pauline article) that there’s a lot of paranoia and cutthroat sh*t going on between Saleh, Douglas, and the Johnsons, and Mims is just one of the guys caught up in that wash. They should have traded him.

Can you post this article?

[Matt39]

6 hours ago, T0mShane said:

So, a hypothetical. Zach Wilson is a suburban mama’s boy from Utah who almost lost his starting job because his coach at BYU thought he was a mush. I’d imagine he’s the sort of man-boy who’s ego you, as his coach, would commit resources to protect (hello John Beck!) 

As this pertains to Mims, if you bash his head in to develop him, you’re getting nada out of him. But if you give him a little Zach Wilson preferential treatment, maybe you end up with a 1,000 yard receiver. I think you gotta make concessions in some cases, just to see if it bears fruit

Don’t think it’s that deep. He’s just not good.

[EM31]

Unable to catch because his confidence is shot or unconfident because he cannot catch?

"My horse would have won today if only the trainer had agreed to use the Titanium horseshoes.  The pick was a good one" 

[Trotter]

1 hour ago, EM31 said:

Unable to catch because his confidence is shot or unconfident because he cannot catch?

"My horse would have won today if only the trainer had agreed to use the Titanium horseshoes.  The pick was a good one" 

I have used that excuse many times. 

[Bleedin Green]

2 hours ago, Barton said:

The guy who started this thread may not be off the mark. Mims looked solid last year. WRs with confidence problems drop more balls, just saying. 

Mims performance last year has always been wildly overrated, due to a combination of grading him on a rookie curve and the team having absolutely nothing but Crowder at WR last year.  It's simply the Herndon effect all over again.  In reality, Mims had 23 catches last season, with one of the worst catch rates on the team, and is still waiting for his first career TD.

He's shown the physical ability and that's why it's worth giving him a chance to see whether he can improve and step it up in the future, but he's done nothing to suggest his continually poor play is the fault of anyone but himself, nor deserving of any aspect of the team built around him until that changes.

[JoeDouglasFart]

9 hours ago, longsuffering88 said:

Saleh ruined mims. Needs to be held accountable

A 5 year extension by the Johnsons perhaps?

[the Claw]

Get out of here with this. You’re acting like he was unstoppable last year and Saleh has forced him into a shell. Mims has a ton of potential but he has huge red flags. I doubt Saleh is coaching him to catch with his t!ts. He doesn’t seem to want to be here. Listen to his draft day call to JD when he was selected. He’s mush. 

[jgb]

Just now, the Claw said:

Get out of here with this. You’re acting like he was unstoppable last year and Saleh has forced him into a shell. Mims has a ton of potential but he has huge red flags. I doubt Saleh is coaching him to catch with his t!ts. He doesn’t seem to want to be here. Listen to his draft day call to JD when he was selected. He’s mush. 

He won't see this until 2pm.

[munchmemory]

Just now, jgb said:

He won't see this until 2pm.

WTF is up with the bloody rag?  I looks like he miscalculated his menstrual cycle.

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Don’t think it’s that deep. He’s just not good.

He looked fairly promising last season.

[WestCoastOffensive]

10 hours ago, longsuffering88 said:

Mims drops suck this year- agree

But he didn’t have that issue last year.

 

 

This clearly is because he knows the CS hates him and he’s in his own head.

 

another failure by Saleh to “raise the players up”… how did you raise Mims up? 
 

Saleh ruined mims. Needs to be held accountable.

 

 

Nope. Mims tries to avoid hand-fighting the DB by body or basket catches. He is barely reliable. That sh!t is Pop Warner

[chirorob]

11 hours ago, longsuffering88 said:

Mims drops suck this year- agree

But he didn’t have that issue last year.

This clearly is because he knows the CS hates him and he’s in his own head.

another failure by Saleh to “raise the players up”… how did you raise Mims up? 
Saleh ruined mims. Needs to be held accountable.

 

You can't actually be that dumb, can you?

[WestCoastOffensive]

4 hours ago, 68JET11 said:

He's also going to start getting called for OPI. for pushing off if the ref's start watching film. I mentioned this when he was drafted, and he still hasn't learned to stop doing it when he's in man coverage.

Another voice of reason.

 

BTW, Please help yourself to a Gatorade.

[LockeJET]

That’s like blaming hooters that I like t!ts

[Warfish]

4 hours ago, Barton said:

The guy who started this thread may not be off the mark. Mims looked solid last year. WRs with confidence problems drop more balls, just saying. 

What a fragile little bird Mims must be then, if actual expectations and accountability broke him and his fragile confidence so thoroughly that he can longer catch the football.  

I don't think you Mims supporters realize how amazingly soft and weak you're making Mims look in this thread with this argument.

Stud WR's can't be broken over being expected to know the route tree ffs.

[jgb]

Just now, Warfish said:

What a fragile little bird Mims must be then, if actual expectations and accountability broke him and his fragile confidence so thoroughly that he can longer catch the football.  

I don't think you Mims supporters realize how amazingly soft and weak you're making Mims look in this thread with this argument.

Stud WR's can't be broken over being expected to know the route tree ffs.

The road to bust is paved with untapped potential

[jgb]

1 hour ago, munchmemory said:

WTF is up with the bloody rag?  I looks like he miscalculated his menstrual cycle.

Unfortunately for us he was able to chew through the gag.

[FTL Jet Fan]

11 hours ago, longsuffering88 said:

Stop clicking

thats it and that’s all

Seriously are you ****8ng that much of a miserable ****, just annoying. Take your sh*t out elsewhere. Go buy heavy bag and take your issues out on it. 

 

[DjHoldyHold]

11 hours ago, longsuffering88 said:

Mims drops suck this year- agree

But he didn’t have that issue last year.

 

 

This clearly is because he knows the CS hates him and he’s in his own head.

 

another failure by Saleh to “raise the players up”… how did you raise Mims up? 
 

Saleh ruined mims. Needs to be held accountable.

 

 

No offense, but you appear to be a moron. 

[Saul Goodman]

Now it’s the coach’s fault that Mims doesn’t produce. Too funny. The Mims supporters are definitely cultish. Enamored by his pro day/combine measurements, which mean dick when it comes to being a good football player. 

[Lith]

I have been a Mims supporter, but I just can't anymore.   His play has been awful.  He lets balls get into his body -- that led to the drop in the end zone last week and looked like it led to the drops yesterday.  I don't remember seeing the body catching as an issue in college, but it is now.  Let him fix it in practice, you cannot put him out there in games right now.  Especially once Corey Davis is healthy.  Davis, Cole, Moore, Crowder, Berrios and even Smith should all be ahead of him.

I am still holding out hope that he gets his head out of his ass and starts to play the way I expected when he was drafted.  But let him figure it out on Wed-Friday in practice.