Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Exactly. White and Wilson are in two different places in their careers. There is a reason the Niners and Bears started the year with their crappy old vets. It's because no matter how crappy a vet is, they are likely more prepared to run an offense than a rookie. The lord and savior Trevor Lawrence has struggled a ton as well. That doesn't mean Lawrence isn't good or won't be great. It's just that it takes time. Now do Burrow, Herbert, Lamar Jackson Mac Jones and Mayfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted November 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2021 As a Bills fan I feel far more nervous with White starting than Wilson. Our defense is pretty overrated actually. We've done well eliminating the big plays and getting TOs but our pass rush has been very inconsistent of late. From what I've seen of White he gets the ball out quickly and decisively and he'll be happy to take the short stuff and keep moving the chains. The Bills offense is obviously struggling at the moment and the O-line has been beyond bad. If rookie Brown is back it should be improved a bit but I won't be surprised at another close game or loss. I voiced these concerns last week here and a few people said I was crazy, then they went out and laid an egg against Jax 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kevinc855 Posted November 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2021 Bills fans right now 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsDogs Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, peebag said: eh, either way it's "can miss" football viewing this Sunday. And when is the last time we could say that about a Jets game in November? This season has had it's ups and downs, but much more enjoyable and memorable. Which is also an awful reference point to how low the bar is for Jets fans these days lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: The Bills Defense must be sh!tting bricks as soon as they heard they're facing White Lightning at MetLife...err I mean the White House. Hmmmm. You might be on to something here. If the Jets were smart they dress in all white and hand out white tee shirts to everyone on Sunday. Lets make this a Penn St type white out game! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: Hmmmm. You might be on to something here. If the Jets were smart they dress in all white and hand out white tee shirts to everyone on Sunday. Lets make this a Penn St type white out game! And some idiot in the media promotions department thinks it's a great idea to call Sunday "A Day for White Supreme!". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, heymangold said: We’ll see how he plays against a real defense Yup. I, for one, will be rooting for him to have glorious success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Let's just hope Mike White can keep the feeling in his widdle arm this week. how dare you...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Yup. I, for one, will be rooting for him to have glorious success. I will be too, I just want to see him so it against a real team before I anoint him king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, munchmemory said: And some idiot in the media promotions department thinks it's a great idea to call Sunday "A Day for White Supreme!". So then his fan club could be called the White Supremacists? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Larz said: Weird how check down Chad is so popular now. Glad we don't have a dumb low IQ Chad that would risk throwing the ball near the sticks where all the defenders are but rather throw the underneath/checkdown that was open all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I think Saleh is being truthful when he says Wilson is not fully healed, but I think it’s also obvious he thinks White give them the best chance to win. White had an uplifting effect on the whole team in the Cincinnati and Colts games. You could see it on the field and on the sidelines. For example, I was watching the sideline during the Bengals game, and after White got out of the medical tent after missing some plays because of his neck, the camera focused on him on the sideline looking at his tablet. All of a sudden, Keenan Cole rushed up to him and you could clearly read his lips saying, “Are you back Mike? Are you back?” White nodded his head and Cole rushed away smiling. This is not a trivial thing. And it’s not a slight against Wilson, as some want to make it out to be. Mahomes sat on the bench virtually his entire rookie year to soak things up. Nothing wrong with having Wilson sit and watch if White is playing well. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tee Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 good spot for the Jets, IMHO... Bills looking ragged, Jets showing some life offensively/ granted, johnson had garbage time points, but, the play calling was way better than it has been. IF, I said, IF, offense plays as good as it has last 2 weeks and Bills offense(which is nothing to write home about) still ragged, then Jets are in this game to the finish. Would love some LONG PASSES for a change, might even help the short sh*t that's been prevalent, but effective, work that much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Maybe 1/4 of the fanbase is abandoning Zach Wilson. The rest of the fanbase understands that Zach Wilson is not the guy right this second. Seeing Mike White emerge as a viable starter is independent of what we feel about Zach Wilson in the future. Two things can be simultaneously true. yup.. if Wilson never got hurt everyone would still be bashing JD for this "back-up qb" neglect as they were. It appears White can play, or at least be a serviceable backup - which is a good thing. No need to put Wilson back in before he is 1000% healthy, and that is assuming White is paying horribly. I hope White goes out and looks like he did 2 weeks ago, I mean it would be nice to have a QB. I would also be ok if Wilson plays lights out and proves to be a FQB. Wilson and White - starter and backup for years to come. Thats a problem I am okay having. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said: I think Saleh is being truthful when he says Wilson is not fully healed, but I think it’s also obvious he thinks White give them the best chance to win. White had an uplifting effect on the whole team in the Cincinnati and Colts games. You could see it on the field and on the sidelines. For example, I was watching the sideline during the Bengals game, and after White got out of the medical tent after missing some plays because of his neck, the camera focused on him on the sideline looking at his tablet. All of a sudden, Keenan Cole rushed up to him and you could clearly read his lips saying, “Are you back Mike? Are you back?” White nodded his head and Cole rushed away smiling. This is not a trivial thing. And it’s not a slight against Wilson, as some want to make it out to be. Mahomes sat on the bench virtually his entire rookie year to soak things up. Nothing wrong with having Wilson sit and watch if White is playing well. Except it’s nothing like when Mahomes sat while Smith played. Everyone knew Mahomes was the future. Not the aging vet. White is 26 years old, and getting his shot. He is going out there thinking one thing. He wants to win the NYJ QB job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Now do Burrow, Herbert, Lamar Jackson Mac Jones and Mayfield Lamar Jackson started his first game week 10 of his rookie year. So probably shouldn't be on your list of players that were ready from day 1. Regardless, I never said that rookie QBs CAN'T start day 1 and do great, just that vets are often more prepared to do well. Fields, Lance, Wilson and Lawrence have all struggled when given the chance to play this year (Wilson flashed in 1 game and Fields has had a couple of good moments recently). I know you live in the twitter world where you need instant gratification and Wilson hasn't given you that so you are sad. But I am pretty confident that at least 1 or 2 of Wilson/Lawrence/Fields/Lance will be really good QBs even if they weren't great from day 1 like Herbert and Burrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: So then his fan club could be called the White Supremacists? I was trying to skirt the phrasing. But, yeah. That should go over big. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 The White Lightning will make this offense run. The defense will show up in Buffalo only to realize they're in the wrong place, so the offense will have to play defense too (Just like the colts game!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Lamar Jackson started his first game week 10 of his rookie year. So probably shouldn't be on your list of players that were ready from day 1. Regardless, I never said that rookie QBs CAN'T start day 1 and do great, just that vets are often more prepared to do well. Fields, Lance, Wilson and Lawrence have all struggled when given the chance to play this year (Wilson flashed in 1 game and Fields has had a couple of good moments recently). I know you live in the twitter world where you need instant gratification and Wilson hasn't given you that so you are sad. But I am pretty confident that at least 1 or 2 of Wilson/Lawrence/Fields/Lance will be really good QBs even if they weren't great from day 1 like Herbert and Burrow. FYI I’ve never been, nor will I ever be on Twitter. (or Facebook and tik tok) 100% Boomer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post munchmemory Posted November 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: FYI I’ve never been, nor will I ever be on Twitter. (or Facebook and tik tok) 100% Boomer Years ago, I perfected my own social media platform: Yelling out my window. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, kevinc855 said: YAAAA BABYYYYYYYY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, sec101row23 said: Mike White surfs in 60 foot storm surf while Sam Darnold boogey boarded in knee high shore break. Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, sec101row23 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, sec101row23 said: They had no choice. Cant cut a guy you just traded a draft pick for 2 weeks ago. He’s essentially useless though. Which just makes that trade even more moronic. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Larz said: Weird how check down Chad is so popular now. Perhaps if Chad was a dirt cheap backup instead of a wildly overpaid, noodle-armed, douchetastic, china doll, it may've been a different story. Even then, there may still be an ever-so-slight difference in hitting a WR in full stride on early downs, in comparison to celebrating the completion percentage of throwing a 1 yard dump-off to a FB on third and long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Years ago, I perfected my own social media platform: Yelling out my window. People yelling out windows meant one thing when I was a kid. It meant get your a** home. The water was boiling and they were going to throw the macaroni in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Green Ghost said: Now do Burrow, Herbert, Lamar Jackson Mac Jones and Mayfield Lamar Jackson 37th ranked QB his rookie year https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/passing.htm This is stupid - QB's progress at different paces and are all in different situations. HOF QB's often have awful rookies years...guys that have really good rookie years often end up sucking. Guys that have awful rookie years often end up being awful... 5 weeks of playing football on an NFL team with a new coach, new system, the most rookies in the league and the youngest team in the league is really no way to judge a young QB. It's beyond silly to really try. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: People yelling out windows meant one thing when I was a kid. It meant get your a** home. The water was boiling and they were going to throw the macaroni in. I can still hear the various mothers in my neighborhood calling their kids in for dinner. Then, older brothers like me were commissioned to go find our younger siblings when they didn't answer or come home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Perhaps if Chad was a dirt cheap backup instead of a wildly overpaid, noodle-armed, douchetastic, china doll, it may've been a different story. Even then, there may still be an ever-so-slight difference in hitting a WR in full stride on early downs, in comparison to celebrating the completion percentage of throwing a 1 yard dump-off to a FB on third and long. Not really the point. If people hated Chad for checking down - but are now fawning over Mike White and looking to him as the future FQB this team has been searching - he has a point. Sure, if Mike White was being viewed around here as a great back up - I agree with you----but that's not what's going on - he's being crowned by many for looking good after 4 quarters of checking down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Well I am happy. Perhaps Zach will be great. But we have to make a decision on White this offseason. Plus he is the hot hand. So lets see what we have.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, heymangold said: I will be too, I just want to see him so it against a real team before I anoint him king. No one should announcing anyone king, lol, not till they have a real resume to warrant it. Not White. Not Wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, heymangold said: I will be too, I just want to see him so it against a real team before I anoint him king. 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: No one should announcing anyone king, lol, not till they have a real resume to warrant it. Not White. Not Wilson. Only with the Jets, the "king" will be pulling the sword out of Woody's ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Not really the point. If people hated Chad for checking down - but are now fawning over Mike White and looking to him as the future FQB this team has been searching - he has a point. Sure, if Mike White was being viewed around here as a great back up - I agree with you----but that's not what's going on - he's being crowned by many for looking good after 4 quarters of checking down. If White proceeds to get crowned as the Jets long-term starter, is paid big money, and then continually sucks for the following 5 years straight while this turns out to have been the very highest point of his career, then it might be a worthwhile comparison, as I suspect along the way he may just lose a tiny bit of the (mostly deliberately hyperbolic) current support he's getting as backup QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Let's just hope Mike White can keep the feeling in his widdle arm this week. Is that what they are calling it these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Mike White will probably give this team the best chance at winning, but as you could see from the Bills-Jags game, you won't beat them unless you can win on defense. Over/Under the defense plays today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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