Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Happy with that decision. The offense looked like an actual offense under him. He deserves the rest of the season IMO. Let Wilson sit and learn, he clearly wasnt ready. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Happy with that decision. The offense looked like an actual offense under him. He deserves the rest of the season IMO. Let Wilson sit and learn, he clearly wasnt ready. And if White plays badly this week and next, just start him the rest of the season regardless? The overreactions and proclamations on this board are both ridiculous and hilarious. The NFL changes so much week to week, but some want to base season long and career decisions on one game. Unreal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 In order to get a good read on White, the Jets' D is going to have to play MUCH better then they have in the last month. If the score is 28-0 at the end of the first quarter, the Bills aren't going to care about 3-4 yard completions. White puts up 300+ yards and loses, 56-24, it doesn't mean squat. If the score is 10-7 at the half, White is really going to have to play sharp ball to keep the Jets in the game. Hope the D really steps up this week, so I can get a good feel of who White is in a contested game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: If White proceeds to get crowned as the Jets long-term starter, is paid big money, and then continually sucks for the following 5 years straight while this turns out to have been the very highest point of his career, then it might be a worthwhile comparison, as I suspect along the way he may just lose a tiny bit of the (mostly deliberately hyperbolic) current support he's getting as backup QB. That's the thing though - Chad didn't suck. Chad won playoff games. Yet, got destroyed around here for playing precisely the way Mike What is being adored and glorified. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Lith said: But, why? Oh, yeah. A 6th round draft pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: So then his fan club could be called the White Supremacists? Not so fast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: This is Zach Wilson’s “SHE DON’T WANT YOU NO MORE, JOE DIRT” moment. Harsh. Brutal. Enjoy Houston, Zach Dirt. Yeah, but Kid Rock was lying when he said that, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Woody loving that offset language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Trotter said: True - but it was a completely different game back in the 70's. Many of the top QB's during that time had comp pct's in the 50's. Factor in the Jets were a poor to fair team during that time and specifically in 78 were geared towards a running game. Gaines, Harper and Dierking - I would take that trio today in a heartbeat. Outside of Todd's Rookie campaign, he never threw under 50%. Matt Robinson's handlebar mustache was one of the coolest thing I ever saw at that time, he just wasn't a good QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 hours ago, sec101row23 said: I think Saleh is wise to consider what the rest of the team wants and needs. It was obvious that the team responded to White and was genuinely happy for him. This is a big plus for Saleh in the HC column. It was also a big break for Saleh as it provides a smooth reason to have Wilson sit and learn while healing as White hopefully continues to play well. Ideally Wilson learns and shows he's more than capable of taking what the defense gives him, and striking big when it's there. At that point you could flip White for at least a first provided he continues to play well, and that's if he just doesn't blow you away and force himself into the Jets long term starter role. Yes, if he continues to play well some team will be more than happy to trade a first for him as he's a QB, and not a box safety. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: That's the thing though - Chad didn't suck. Chad won playoff games. Yet, got destroyed around here for playing precisely the way Mike What is being adored and glorified. A couple of his injuries really debilitated Chad's ability to compete at the highest level. Just could not make that sideline throw any longer. Good QB. Even better person. He deserves a better legacy. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: But, why? Oh, yeah. A 6th round draft pick. Because he gives them a batter chance to win than Josh Johnson if Mike White bumps his elbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, sec101row23 said: So then his fan club could be called the White Supremacists? Might be a more popular name than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Because he gives them a batter chance to win than Josh Johnson if Mike White bumps his elbow. Does he, though? I remember him looking pretty burnt out with us last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, munchmemory said: A couple of his injuries really debilitated Chad's ability to compete at the highest level. Just could not make that sideline throw any longer. Good QB. Even better person. He deserves a better legacy. Chad throwing 18 yard darts to Lav Coles was one of my favorite sights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: Years ago, I perfected my own social media platform: Yelling out my window. And you "following" someone is you literally following them around yelling at them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: Except it’s nothing like when Mahomes sat while Smith played. Everyone knew Mahomes was the future. Not the aging vet. White is 26 years old, and getting his shot. He is going out there thinking one thing. He wants to win the NYJ QB job. And if this continues he will have to win that job on a weekly basis for another year and a half at least. There is no way White wins the starting job for 2022 this season. I'm not rooting against him. I'm just stating reality. It takes 2-3 years to evaluate a QB and the Jets are not going to discard Wilson that quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: And you "following" someone is you literally following them around yelling at them. That's me standing in the glasses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 hours ago, heymangold said: We’ll see how he plays against a real defense If he does well, there will be those who say the Bills were looking past us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 If he does well, there will be those who say the Bills were looking past usI will sign up for people saying that right now please Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: He deserves the rest of the season IMO. I disagree. I think he earned the next start, and he'll get to earn the one after that with his play on the field. One game and a drive doesn't mean the season is his. Ride the hot hand. If White falters, not loses, but rather plays like sh*t then you reevaluate the starter for the following week. Think of them as pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 This organization is going to lift you up https://youtu.be/5RVgtwq5xmA what a clown shoes operation Saleh is lost and grasping the only reason to watch anymore is morbid curiosity Telling the world the locker room wants white may be the worst possible thing he could have said moron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: If he does well, there will be those who say the Bills were looking past us The reply would be... "He doesn't control the competition, and he played well regardless". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The guy I feel bad for here is Josh Johnson. He can clearly be a QB2, a decent backup in this league. And, he is already on the Jets roster. JD and the Jets have really failed at managing the QB depth chart. They would clearly be prepared with Mike White, Zach Wilson, and Josh Johnson for the season. Flacco was a panic move and potentially a waste of a pick because the Jets were not knowledgeable or informed enough about the capabilities of quarterbacks already on THEIR OWN ROSTER in Mike White and Johnson. In all the Mike White hysteria, what is getting lost is that Johnson played nearly as well vs Indy as White did vs Cincy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Just now, FidelioJet said: That's the thing though - Chad didn't suck. Chad won playoff games. Yet, got destroyed around here for playing precisely the way Mike What is being adored and glorified. That's just another tired argument still trying to defend a guy who has been off the team for over a decade, with an attempted false equivalence being drawn to a 2-year practice squad player upgraded to backup, where the latter still set multiple marks in his first ever start that the former was incapable of ever reaching throughout his entire pro career. The significant difference in expectation levels of those incomparable circumstances comes nowhere close to telling the story you want it to. That's before even getting into your point being based entirely on a series of deliberately optimistic exaggerations about a single game of a backup QB. Now perhaps it's time for you to prepare to stand in the true awe of the almighty dominance that is the greatest in all of professional sports history, Mike f'n White. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 hours ago, 1010WINS said: This is bad news. Zach is our franchise QB not Mike White. You use the word "our" loosely, don't you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Does he, though? I remember him looking pretty burnt out with us last year. No. I do not think he does. But it must be their thought process. Because the alternative is they're doing things for optics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: And if this continues he will have to win that job on a weekly basis for another year and a half at least. There is no way White wins the starting job for 2022 this season. I'm not rooting against him. I'm just stating reality. It takes 2-3 years to evaluate a QB and the Jets are not going to discard Wilson that quickly. I don’t know about that. Im not saying White can or will do it, but if a guy like him were to string 8 or 9 solid performances together, I’d think any smart organization is going to look at that player VERY differently than as a long term backup. That’s how you got a Brady and a Warner. Guys come in, open eyes, and change narratives. There would come a point where the roles reversed, and that’s when you would look at the high draft pick as an asset you could use in a trade. At this point I think the Jets main concern is to find a viable starter, not to assuage Wilson’s feelings. It doesn’t matter if it turns out to be the 25 or the 21 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: In all the Mike White hysteria, what is getting lost is that Johnson played nearly as well vs Indy as White did vs Cincy. Shame on anyone who is losing that in the hysteria. In fact it’s been eye opening for a lot of us. It’s raised more concerns about Wilson than the poor play he’d shown before he got hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: I don’t know about that. Im not saying White can or will do it, but if a guy like him were to string 8 or 9 solid performances together, I’d think any smart organization is going to look at that player VERY differently than as a long term backup. That’s how you got a Brady and a Warner. Guys come in, open eyes, and change narratives. There would come a point where the roles reversed, and that’s when you would look at the high draft pick as an asset you could use in a trade. At this point I think the Jets main concern is to find a viable starter, not to assuage Wilson’s feelings. It doesn’t matter if it turns out to be the 25 or the 21 year old. Honestly, if mike white proves himself to be a viable backup that’s big money for him and his family for ten more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Larz said: This organization is going to lift you up https://youtu.be/5RVgtwq5xmA what a clown shoes operation Saleh is lost and grasping the only reason to watch anymore is morbid curiosity Telling the world the locker room wants white may be the worst possible thing he could have said moron I agree. I was shocked he went there. He didn’t have to, all he needed to say was Zach needed more time. But he didn’t, and that spoke volumes IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: In all the Mike White hysteria, what is getting lost is that Johnson played nearly as well vs Indy as White did vs Cincy. "Yeah, but White is the hot hand"....and you got to play the hot hand apparently, except when the hot hand has a fore-arm injury and his back up comes in and throws 3 touchdowns. For some reason, that second back up QB is only the 'luke warm hand', and gets demoted behind the other old guy who came in off the street two weeks ago. The same guy you traded a pick for because you had so much faith in the 'hot hand guy'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wit said: Honestly, if mike white proves himself to be a viable backup that’s big money for him and his family for ten more years. Yeah, but a lot of you guys are living in a fantasy world here. Mike White’s goal isn’t to be our backup for the next 10 years. This is his shot. He’s going for the brass ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Wilson needs to switch back to his college number. #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, flgreen said: In order to get a good read on White, the Jets' D is going to have to play MUCH better then they have in the last month. If the score is 28-0 at the end of the first quarter, the Bills aren't going to care about 3-4 yard completions. White puts up 300+ yards and loses, 56-24, it doesn't mean squat. If the score is 10-7 at the half, White is really going to have to play sharp ball to keep the Jets in the game. Hope the D really steps up this week, so I can get a good feel of who White is in a contested game. Not sure I'd agree with the logic of this kind of preemptive dismissal of potentially objectively good play based only on the D playing poorly. I think we can evaluate White (or Wilson) objectively even in light of poor Defensive performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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