RSJ Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 How often does that happen anymore? I honestly can't remember the last time I heard a coach give a real answer to that question. It's basically a script coaches follow after a loss. "Not sure. Gotta' go back and watch the film and make corrections".How about “You cant motivate an NFL player” Ever heard that one before?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Why is he still living in a hotel with his wife and 7 kids through the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I see our usual muckrakers are out in force. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, AFJF said: How often does that happen anymore? I honestly can't remember the last time I heard a coach give a real answer to that question. It's basically a script coaches follow after a loss. "Not sure. Gotta' go back and watch the film and make corrections". The first time I ever heard “I don’t know what the problem is or how to fix it” was from Kotite. I don’t get the watching film answer if you’re wearing a headset (Saleh was) to talk to people upstairs. Wtf are they looking at and wtf is he talking about through the headsets if your hands are soooo tied you have to wait until Monday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Why is he still living in a hotel with his wife and 7 kids through the season? That’s crazy. No wonder why he’s so burnt out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, BP said: That’s crazy. No wonder why he’s so burnt out This dude has millions in the bank, he can't rent a house temporarily and just pay an early lease termination? TF is going on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: This dude has millions in the bank, he can't rent a house temporarily and just pay an early lease termination? TF is going on? Maybe he’s dumber than we think? Or maybe we should have his wife coach the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, BP said: The first time I ever heard “I don’t know what the problem is or how to fix it” was from Kotite. I don’t get the watching film answer if you’re wearing a headset (Saleh was) to talk to people upstairs. Wtf are they looking at and wtf is he talking about through the headsets if your hands are soooo tied you have to wait until Monday? We have to look at the film is code for "I know who ****ed up. I'm not going to blow them up in the press." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, BP said: That’s crazy. No wonder why he’s so burnt out Couldn’t believe it when I read it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: We have to look at the film is code for "I know who ****ed up. I'm not going to blow them up in the press." But that answer was in response to why didn’t you change the coverage to help out a corner who was one on one for 5 consecutive plays lol. I don’t think he’s that smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Because one was in his 4th year, had a QB in his 2nd season, had a track record of failing and the other is a highly thought of but rookie HC learning on the job with the leagues youngest roster and being led by 1st time QBs? Throw in for bonus points most didnt want Gase here and hated the hire while everyone wanted Saleh hired. Pretty much shlt their pants when he was allowed to leave the building without a deal in place. You hated Gase because Manish—who is your thought leader—slimed him and McCarthy all winter in service of his bubby Mike Maccagnan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Woody weighing in on Saleh this morning…. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Call me paranoid, but I feel like there’s a coordinated plan to get Rex Ryan the Jets job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You hated Gase because Manish—who is your thought leader—slimed him and McCarthy all winter in service of his bubby Mike Maccagnan. Actually that’s dead wrong. I didn’t hate Gase until I saw that he was incompetent. I was open to giving him a chance. My mistake. I stopped paying attention to Manish years before, he’s a POS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 hours ago, BP said: All of those coaches had plans. I remember Jimmy Johnson in 1991 after losing to the lions in the playoffs he said “we couldn’t cover the run and shoot, we’re gonna fix that in the off season”. None of those coaches EVER said “I don’t know what happened, I have to look at the film” if their teams stunk they called them out and knew how to fix it. Do you really think “I don’t know, I’ll look at the film on Monday” is an acceptable response? That means he’s got no answer. OR it's now the information age and anything he says will get nitpicked over the meaning of his response so you say nothing of consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 The difference, players never quit on these HOF coaches. they haven’t quit, they are just not any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Why is he still living in a hotel with his wife and 7 kids through the season? He’s actually suing the contractor who was doing the renovations. Who buys a house that needed all that work during a pandemic? Of course there were going to be delays. By the time this house gets finished, Saleh may be as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, SoFlaJets said: EXACTLY Johnny, Woody Johnson is too cheap to hire a real NFL-caliber Head Coach and too stupid to stick up for his team as week after week year after year we watch the zebras **** us over, letting late hits continue on every Jets QB and NOTHING is ever said about it by Johnson. How is it that the Jets are the only team who have had multiple QB's hurt in every year except 3 during Johnson's tenure and one of those years the QB was hurt but they still kept playing him (we saw what happened to Favre at the end of his 1 season here). Yesterday was another perfect example as White was hit late numerous times and nothing was called. Look at how the officials call the Jets in the 1st Quarter compared to their opponents, starting every series 90 yards away. I'm sick of what the owner's silence has done to "OUR" team, OUR team guys, not his team the Jets are "our team" Wouldn't be surprised if Woody just didn't want to eat Gregg's contract and tell him "the new head man is going in a different direction. Here's a check for the guaranteed part of your deal. Not bad for a couple months of 'work.' Best of luck to ya." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Gase played Darnold and Gore because the alternatives were worse. You're not wrong but Gore had no future with us, Johnson and Perine should have gotten the reps and had in game experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: He’s actually suing the contractor who was doing the renovations. Who buys a house that needed all that work during a pandemic? Of course there were going to be delays. By the time this house gets finished, Saleh may be as well. Getting some Housewives vibes here. Saleh more celebrity than coach? Everything is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: You're not wrong but Gore had no future with us, Johnson and Perine should have gotten the reps and had in game experience. This is where we disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Decent guy. Seems intelligent, likeable, and has a marketable image. Its a shame he's a total fraud, and has been exposed as being completely incompetent. Shane is right. We owe that bug eyed lunatic freak Gase an apology. He may have sucked, and been an unlikable prick...but he was a better Coach than Saleh. Except Gase also sucked, horribly, and was a complete fraud. We owe him nothing. This "We owe Gase an Apology" meme is one of the worst lies ever on this forum. Two things can be true at once. Gase sucked, and so can Saleh. One doesn't change or mitigate the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Saleh is not getting a pass. My family's from Derry - had a caravan in Donegal that was used as a weekend getaway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, FidelioJet said: This team is in an incredibly early stage. We all just need to show some patience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, RSJ said: So the plan was to be non competitive this season? The plan was to field one of the worst defenses in NFL history? Sorry but I dont buy it. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app The plan was to bring in the youngest and newest team in the league, with a rookie QB. Then teach that same players completely new systems on both sides of the ball. Sure, they would love to win when they can - but when you go with this much of a youth movement is should be what's expected. It was never going to be about wins this year. Heck, they came out and said that. Blame the plan if you don't like it, but blaming Saleh at this point is, IMO, ridiculous. Look, I have no specific affinity for Saleh - but the circumstances he's under are very difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 The plan was to bring in the youngest and newest team in the league, with a rookie QB. Then teach that same players completely new systems on both sides of the ball. Sure, they would love to win when they can - but when you go with this much of a youth movement is should be what's expected. It was never going to be about wins this year. Heck, they came out and said that. Blame the plan if you don't like it, but blaming Saleh at this point is, IMO, ridiculous. Look, I have no specific affinity for Saleh - but the circumstances he's under are very difficult. They did this by design. Just so you know.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, RSJ said: They did this by design. Just so you know. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Saleh is the coach, not the GM. The team and circumstances they are in were never expected to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Saleh is the coach, not the GM. The team and circumstances they are in were never expected to win. This was the plan. The head coach didnt like the plan? All these terrible players brought in were his doing as well. Or did you forget about the time he compared that hot piece of garbage Sherwood to Fred Warner?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 The plan sucked. Trade our best players for draft capital. Cut the roster to the bone. Build through the draft while being cheap on FA's. Hire a rookie defensive-minded head coach. This is a 10 year plan while other teams reboot in 3 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 So now we are firing the HC after half a year?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, NYJ37/12 said: So now we are firing the HC after half a year?? YES! Saleh's ceiling is Gase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, NYJ37/12 said: So now we are firing the HC after half a year?? Why not, do you see ANY improvement? Do you see any fire coming from the Cigar store Wooden Indian that stands cross armed on the sidelines for 4 games straight showing no emotion or making ANY changes or attempts to even try to fix the absolute mess and disgraceful display of so-called professional football play that we've been watching for the past 2 months? Who has been benched/ Who has been signed? Why are we playing guys who should be delivering our UPS packages at TE week after week? Why are our players getting decimated by injuries? Whaat is our training and medical staff doing about it? Yes, the guy should be fired today and somebody else brought in-someone from OUTSIDE this crew that he hired. Do you plan on watching the next 8 games of a team giving up 45 points a game? I see you're probably a season ticket holder, are you fine with spending however much you are forking out for this level of entertainment? I know I certainly wouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 All ass no brains..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I think he needs the rest of this year at the least to have a fair evaluation of any improvement or lack thereof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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