TerrapinJet Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I've seen a ton of people on youtube and here gloating that they were "right". Something like "See, Mike White sucks you idiots. Z Wilson is obviously the guy, that was never in question unless youre an idiot?" I dont get this. Mike White sucks. Granted. But what has Z Wilson done to show hes the "the guy"? If White sucks....Wilson is......well i dont know but he clearly sucks as well. Thoughts? 4 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Because one quarterback sucks doesnt mean Zach Wilson sucks lessSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrapinJet Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, RSJ said: Because one quarterback sucks doesnt mean Zach Wilson sucks less Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Exactly. its such a weird take. ive seen so many people make the case though. Based on nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 Why would one be anti-Zach Wilson(or Mike White for that matter)? 24 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wit Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 Mike white struggled against the number one defense and eventually played hero ball which we know he can’t do. He doesn’t “suck”. He’s a serviceable and cheap backup. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Mike white struggled against the number one defense and eventually played hero ball which we know he can’t do. He doesn’t “suck”. He’s a serviceable and cheap backup. Sounds like you just described Zach Wilson too.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hex Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 Can you really say somebody sucks if their only bad game is against the Bills? Need more sample, same with zach 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 Nothing is clear. Mike White doesn’t necessarily suck, he just got crushed by #1 defense in league. Not making weapons excuse but the line struggled and his suppose #1 receiver was pretty lacking. This was Mikes Whites “ ghost game.” People seem to forget that he started the year with as many NFL playing minutes and starts as Zach Wilson. Zach doesn’t necessarily suck either, he’s a rookie who has taken his lumps and then some. The next time we see Zach play we need to see he learned a couple things while out, namely taking what the defense gives you until they take it away then take that! This is all potential and I’m honestly just saying this because I finished a couple nice breakfast tacos so feeling good. I think the difference we will eventually see is Mike White can take what the defense gives but not ready to adapt when they take that away, namely the quick short game. The only reason to be optimistic about Zach is he very possibly may be able to adapt to the defense taking the short game away. Yet, he hasn’t proven to have the patients and accuracy to excel on the short yardage game yet. That’s what we need to see next. So to answers the question Zach may be able to adapt better to the long medium game after the short game provided he can master the short game. Zach may have a better second gear but has to learn how to drive in first before that matters . People online or anywhere acting like it’s a foregone conclusion are simply wrong. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hex said: Can you really say somebody sucks if their only bad game is against the Bills? Need more sample, same with zach Or this ^^ haha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 It's a mentality I’ll never understand. I figure it’s a last ditch effort of weak-minded men to retain some control over their fandom. The need to be right overshadows the desire for the team to be successful. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrapinJet Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Nothing is clear. Mike White doesn’t necessarily suck, he just got crushed by #1 defense in league. Not making weapons excuse but the line struggled and his suppose #1 receiver was pretty lacking. This was Mikes Whites “ ghost game.” People seem to forget that he started the year with as many NFL playing minutes and starts as Zach Wilson. Zach doesn’t necessarily suck either, he’s a rookie who has taken his lumps and then some. The next time we see Zach play we need to see he learned a couple things while out, namely taking what the defense gives you until they take it away then take that! This is all potential and I’m honestly just saying this because I finished a couple nice breakfast tacos so feeling good. I think the difference we will eventually see is Mike White can take what the defense gives but not ready to adapt when they take that away, namely the quick short game. The only reason to be optimistic about Zach is he very possibly may be able to adapt to the defense taking the short game away. Yet, he hasn’t proven to have the patients and accuracy to excel on the short yardage game yet. That’s what we need to see next. So to answers the question Zach may be able to adapt better to the long medium game after the short game provided he can master the short game. Zach may have a better second gear but has to learn how to drive in first before that matters . People online or anywhere acting like it’s a foregone conclusion are simply wrong. I had breakfast tacos this morning too. Epic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Chronic wasting disease from consuming tainted elk meat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 Really? Wilson has the physical tools, just needs proper coaching White doesn’t have his ability You don’t invest in White, you invest in Wilson 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hex said: Can you really say somebody sucks if their only bad game is against the Bills? Need more sample, same with zach It was the 3rd start of his career. If Zach can get better, why can’t Mike get better as well. Why the double standard? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, TerrapinJet said: I've seen a ton of people on youtube and here gloating that they were "right". Something like "See, Mike White sucks you idiots. Z Wilson is obviously the guy, that was never in question unless youre an idiot?" I dont get this. Mike White sucks. Granted. But what has Z Wilson done to show hes the "the guy"? If White sucks....Wilson is......well i dont know but he clearly sucks as well. Thoughts? Five. *******. Games. Into. His. Career. Holy. *******. sh*t. The internet. I'm gonna go pop a hot pocket in a microwave and tell people I'm a decent cook. What a time to be alive. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: It was the 3rd start of his career. If Zach can get better, why can’t Mike get better as well. Why the double standard? They're not equals. It's not an open competition. We're not trying to develop Mike ******* White. Mother****er this is amazing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Larz said: Really? Wilson has the physical tools, just needs proper coaching White doesn’t have his ability You don’t invest in White, you invest in Wilson Without a brain dissection it's pure speculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, RSJ said: Sounds like you just described Zach Wilson too. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app He clearly has more innate talent. That doesn’t mean he will succeed. Coaching staff failed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Clearly, Mike White needs to watch and learn and hold a clipboard for ANOTHER three years, because you know, development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, TerrapinJet said: I've seen a ton of people on youtube and here gloating that they were "right". Something like "See, Mike White sucks you idiots. Z Wilson is obviously the guy, that was never in question unless youre an idiot?" I dont get this. Mike White sucks. Granted. But what has Z Wilson done to show hes the "the guy"? If White sucks....Wilson is......well i dont know but he clearly sucks as well. Thoughts? Both of them had eerily similar stats in the second full games of their nfl careers. White may have actually played better against a better defense. How about we compromise: neither is better than the other - they both suck equally. Zach’s 2nd career full game played: 57%, 210 yards, 0 TDs, 4 ints, 4 sacks Mike’s 2nd career full game played: 54%, 251 yards, 0 TDs, 4 ints, 1 sack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, TerrapinJet said: I've seen a ton of people on youtube and here gloating that they were "right". Something like "See, Mike White sucks you idiots. Z Wilson is obviously the guy, that was never in question unless youre an idiot?" I dont get this. Mike White sucks. Granted. But what has Z Wilson done to show hes the "the guy"? If White sucks....Wilson is......well i dont know but he clearly sucks as well. Thoughts? In my opinion, we are simply failing Quarterback at an alarming rate. There is such a thing as damaged goods. Some teams fail a quarterback so badly at the beginning of their career to the point that they cannot be fixed. The Jets are one of those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, Gastineau Lives said: They're not equals. It's not an open competition. We're not trying to develop Mike ******* White. Mother****er this is amazing. I get that, but people act like White has reached his ceiling and this is who he is. He has a lot of room for growth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Biggs said: Without a brain dissection it's pure speculation. Actually it’s not. Wilson is naturally aggressive and wants to push the ball downfield, so he holds it longer than White. That’s the basic difference. A good coach can get him to get him to take what the defense gives him more without losing his aggression 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Mike White likes to throw short passes in the middle of the field, the Bills took that away and forced him to throw outside the numbers and downfield. He looked bad doing that. White looks like a capable backup, however my biggest concern is that he gets hurt almost every game he plays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 This isn’t rocket science When you see dudes jumping out the window calling White the next Brady and fantasizing about trade packages for Zach you have to laugh. When you are telling people White killed Cincinnati with 1000 paper cuts and they get angry and bash you for calling it like it is… Its only right to rub in the I told you sooo’s when white falls flat on his face - LIKE MANY OF US SAID HE WOULD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: I get that, but people act like White has reached his ceiling and this is who he is. He has a lot of room for growth. He's going to grow somewhere else then. It won't be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, Gastineau Lives said: He's going to grow somewhere else then. It won't be here. No QBs grow here, that’s the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said: Five. *******. Games. Into. His. Career. Holy. *******. sh*t. The internet. I'm gonna go pop a hot pocket in a microwave and tell people I'm a decent cook. What a time to be alive. Hot pockets are on a very short list of things I would starve before eating. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 I am pro whoever is lining up at QB for the Jets. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrapinJet Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Both of them had eerily similar stats in the second full games of their nfl careers. White may have actually played better against a better defense. How about we compromise: neither is better than the other - they both suck equally. Zach’s 2nd career full game played: 57%, 210 yards, 0 TDs, 4 ints, 4 sacks Mike’s 2nd career full game played: 54%, 251 yards, 0 TDs, 4 ints, 1 sack i accept your terms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Claymation said: Mike White likes to throw short passes in the middle of the field, the Bills took that away and forced him to throw outside the numbers and downfield. He looked bad doing that. White looks like a capable backup, however my biggest concern is that he gets hurt almost every game he plays. That interception that pinned the Bills at the 1 yd line was one of the worst throws I've ever seen. Great punt, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Christ are you people serious?????? Small sample size from white UMM YOU PEOPLE DO REALIZE THIS IS A DUDE WHO HAS BEEN A BACKUP AND CUTT FROM ANOTHER TEAM BEFORE! WTF WE KNOW WHAT MIKE WHITE IS!! - NOTHING MORE THAN A BACKUP Christ ?♂️?♂️?♂️ Let go of the white train it’s ova people 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Hot pockets are on a very short list of things I would starve before eating. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Hot pockets are on a very short list of things I would starve before eating. Mods, please move to the unpopular food opinions thread so I can upvote this great opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I get that, but people act like White has reached his ceiling and this is who he is. He has a lot of room for growth. Ok, pump the breaks. I have supported White big time but he is not the future. The guy with the highest ceiling is Wilson and he is the one we need to see growth out of. White can play, there is no doubt and he can learn to play better and be a good QB but this team needs to see growth out of Wilson. We are not invested in Mike White the same way we are in Zach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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