Mac Jones should be why JD is fired yesterday

[Facts]

Every time I watch Mac Jones I get infuriated. The kid is good. No qualifiers. No “well he’s on the Patriots”. He’s just good.

He has garbage at WR and TE and he’s still good. He gets the ball out quick. He makes his line look better than they are.

JD is not only like 5-70 (hyperbole) as a GM, but to whiff so badly on the #2 pick and then to watch your nemesis take a franchise QB 13 picks after you should be a fireable offense.

Im not saying Zach can’t be good or won’t be good. But Mac is ALREADY good.

FIRE JD.

 

 

[Origen]

Jesus man, just go be a Pats fan.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

This ain’t it. Delete this. 

[Fantasy Island]

Just now, Origen said:

Jesus man, just go be a Pats fan.

Eff the pats, but eff Sleepy Joe too.  He's not wrong.  Talent evaluation is not a strength of the GM or coaching staff.

 

[JTJet]

Mac Jones would look like Joey Harrington with our coaching staff. 

[Integrity28]

Put me in charge if this team.

[Anthony Jet]

So does BB get no credit for Mac Jones play this year?

[varjet]

This is like an apple and a pineapple.  If JD picked Mac Jones, he would look like Mike White. 

The Patriots have a solid program, top to bottom.  A coaching development system.  Josh McDaniels.  BB on the defense with whatever flunky (Patricia) he can find.  Players that buy ito the system and never quit.  

Even I could see a Mac Jones fitting right into the TB12 system from 20 years ago and doing well.  

JD was trying to do the same thing, but I think he may have already failed on the execution.  HIs HC/function DC runs an athlete system that requires a motivating coach and great athletes.  That requires JD to get Saleh the athletes.  That was primarily Lawson and remains 1-2 years away.  

The JD offensive system is WCO, and it appears to be stabilizing.  We will need talent, and we have not seen ZW play with the new play calling/MF in the box.  Let’s see how that looks before we judge ZW.  

But I think it is safe to say that I am having my doubts that JD and the Jets are building a foundational system that is going to lead to sustained success in the 2020s.  

[Francis Sawyer 37]

The Browns losing Chubbs has a huge impact.

Jones might lay an egg in Atlanta. Then watch everyone come back to reality.

[Ecuadorian Jet]

[Matt39]

He is good. Also consider the Patriots have the best coaching staff in the league while the Jets probably have the worst. The Patriots are good at vetting guys who will buy in. They draft those types of players and then their staff coaches them up. The Jets whole process is disjointed and sloppy. This is how you end up with Becton and Mims.

 Jones while good isnt good enough right now to compensate for everything that is bad about the Jets...which is a lot. 

[Uncle Nicco]

Not a single defensive coach is afraid to go against Mac Jones. Please spare me the media narrative.

[Green Ghost]

9 minutes ago, varjet said:

This is like an apple and a pineapple.  If JD picked Mac Jones, he would look like Mike White. 

The Patriots have a solid program, top to bottom.  A coaching development system.  Josh McDaniels.  BB on the defense with whatever flunky (Patricia) he can find.  Players that buy ito the system and never quit.  

Even I could see a Mac Jones fitting right into the TB12 system from 20 years ago and doing well.  

JD was trying to do the same thing, but I think he may have already failed on the execution.  HIs HC/function DC runs an athlete system that requires a motivating coach and great athletes.  That requires JD to get Saleh the athletes.  That was primarily Lawson and remains 1-2 years away.  

The JD offensive system is WCO, and it appears to be stabilizing.  We will need talent, and we have not seen ZW play with the new play calling/MF in the box.  Let’s see how that looks before we judge ZW.  

But I think it is safe to say that I am having my doubts that JD and the Jets are building a foundational system that is going to lead to sustained success in the 2020s.  

You know the reason why Zach never got to play with The OC upstairs calling the plays, right?

[Uncle Nicco]

guy wide open in the flat but he throws j to double coverage instead. What exactly is so impressive here? 

[munchmemory]

Pats will either win the division or get a playoff berth.   Jones will be named AFC rookie of the year.  The kid can play.

[the Claw]

Why even bother being a Jets supporter? Take your ball and go the **** home.

 

I swear this board has the biggest, whiniest babies.

[68JET11]

I like Mac Jones, and I would have been ok if he were drafted here. The way he led Bama last year was a thing of beauty.

That said, Mac Jones isn't going to be the Mac Jones here that he is in NE plain and simple. He went to the most perfect of systems for him.

I'll just say this. The 49er's did NE a favor.

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

 

 Jones while good isnt good enough right now to compensate for everything that is bad about the Jets...which is a lot. 

I don’t think Mahomes or Rodgers are either though.

btw I agree with everything else in your post (which I edited out)

[Saul Goodman]

 All those picks and not one Jet player on the list. None last year either. No Probowlers on the entire roster. That’s hard to do. 

[Hael]

Jones looks like a 35 year old QB who's athletic days are well behind him, and who eats too many Taco Bells, but who knows the game of football.  Pretty much one of the most bizarre rookies anyone will ever find.  You just can't make this up.

But yea, unfortunately he's pretty good.  Not top ten QB good, but good enough that its going to be a problem for us for a long time...

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, Uncle Nicco said:

guy wide open in the flat but he throws j to double coverage instead. What exactly is so impressive here? 

Stop nico. Rating QBs isn’t your thing. History tells us you’re not good at it.

The kid is playing great, will win the ROY and probably lead his team to the playoffs (if not win the division).

If Zach, or your man crush Sam had done one of those things, there would be no controlling you.

 

[jago]

he did look like a polished qb in college bowl games.
good tempo and accurate.
yes talent all around him but they can't play the position for him.
 

[Green Ghost]

9 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Pats will either win the division or get a playoff berth.   Jones will be named AFC rookie of the year.  The kid can play.

Ugh. Ninja’d word for word! By another Italian, no less!!!

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

So the Jax, SF and Chicago GMs should be fired as well?  Give me a break.  It’s been 10 games and Mac is exactly who everyone thought he’d be — a high floor/low ceiling QB.   Zach probably has as many highlight worthy throws as Mac (in 3 fewer games); and the Patriots are not winning because of him but because of his supporting cast.  And let’s not overlook the best-in-class coaching infrastructure he has in place whereas Zach and Trevor are working with unstable situations.  

[Alentador31]

13 minutes ago, Uncle Nicco said:

guy wide open in the flat but he throws j to double coverage instead. What exactly is so impressive here? 

Lol the throw?

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, Bronxville Jets Fan said:

So the Jax, SF and Chicago GMs should he fired as well?  Give me a break.  It’s been 10 games and Mac is exactly who everyone thought he’d be — a high floor/low ceiling QB.   Zach probably has as many highlight worthy throws as Mac; and the Patriots are not winning because of him but because of his supporting cast.  And let’s not overlook the coaching infrastructure he has in place whereas Zach and Trevor are working with unstable situations.  

Shanahan wanted Jones. 

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

And I am admittedly a Pats hater, but there is absolutely nothing that excites me about Mac Jones.  He’s their next Jimmy G whose best case scenario is a first round playoff loss.  So I’d rather roll the dice on a high upside player like Zach.  Maybe I eat those words, but it sure as hell isn’t going to be after 10 weeks with a rookie head coach and OC and an expansion team roster.

[Green Ghost]

3 minutes ago, Hael said:

Jones looks like a 35 year old QB who's athletic days are well behind him, and who eats too many Taco Bells, but who knows the game of football.  Pretty much one of the most bizarre rookies anyone will ever find.  You just can't make this up.

But yea, unfortunately he's pretty good.  Not top ten QB good, but good enough that its going to be a problem for us for a long time...

Mac Jones is Tom Brady 2.0

It took Belichek half a minute to find a replacement for him. We’ve been trying to find a QB for… how long?

[JTJet]

16 minutes ago, Hael said:

Jones looks like a 35 year old QB who's athletic days are well behind him, and who eats too many Taco Bells, but who knows the game of football.

Reminds me of someone else when he was a rookie...

 

[Green Ghost]

17 minutes ago, Bronxville Jets Fan said:

So the Jax, SF and Chicago GMs should he fired as well?  Give me a break.  It’s been 10 games and Mac is exactly who everyone thought he’d be — a high floor/low ceiling QB.   Zach probably has as many highlight worthy throws as Mac; and the Patriots are not winning because of him but because of his supporting cast.  And let’s not overlook the coaching infrastructure he has in place whereas Zach and Trevor are working with unstable situations.  

Incredibly bad take…  I’m in awe of how you managed to include every nonsensical take used here against another rookie QB performing well. You’re truly a Master.

You threw in the floor and ceiling nonsense first, but then took it to another level with Zach and the highlight throws.

Did you stop there?

Hell no! You dug deep and brought out the supporting cast and infrastructure thing!

????????????

 

 

[undertow]

There's 100 things to be pissed about not drafting Mac Jones isn't one of them

[Green Ghost]

4 minutes ago, undertow said:

There's 100 things to be pissed about not drafting Mac Jones isn't one of them

Things we said over 20 years ago about Tom Brady for $500, Alex.

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Incredibly bad take…  I’m in awe of how you managed to include every nonsensical take used here against another rookie QB performing well. You’re truly a Master.

You threw in the floor and ceiling nonsense first, but then took it to another level with Zach and the highlight throws.

Did you stop there?

Hell no! You dug deep and brought out the supporting cast and infrastructure thing!

????????????

 

 

Yeah ok.  What exactly is inaccurate with what I said?  If you want to anoint a rookie QB after 10 games be my guest - sorry if I’m not going to join your pity party.

[Uncle Nicco]

19 minutes ago, Alentador31 said:

Lol the throw?

I can find 10 more impressive Wilson throws in 5 minutes 

[Uncle Nicco]

24 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

 

If Zach, or your man crush Sam had done one of those things, there would be no controlling you.

 

And you’d be finding ways to sh*t on the very thing you’re laying fake praise on now. It’s your sad schtick