DetroitRed Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Was in and out of the game. How did he do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 16 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Agreed. The bigger question is if it's too early to start looking at the 2023 draft. Never too early when you're 2-8. Edit: Oh, you said 2023. Yeah, why not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 hours ago, DetroitRed said: Was in and out of the game. How did he do? I didn't notice him like I always seemed to notice GVR so that's probably good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 hours ago, DetroitRed said: Was in and out of the game. How did he do? He was pretty good. PFF says he and AVT gave up 5 pressures each but watching live l thought the line did a good job across the board in pass pro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 20 hours ago, Jetpain said: This also shows what little they think of Dan Feeney. He didnt even get a sniff of the field even though GVR was playing poorly. Line may look better today just by Flacco getting rid of the ball quicker I think Feeney actually saw the field today--at least I thought I saw him. Not sure how he graded out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 LDT actually PFF graded at a 57, which is lower than GVR's season PFF rating of 64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 He wasn’t good. He wasn’t awful. GVR has been better and GVR has been worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, varjet said: LDT actually PFF graded at a 57, which is lower than GVR's season PFF rating of 64. Yep, his first game. It's bound to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Hot take - The Jets need to address RG in the offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, varjet said: LDT actually PFF graded at a 57, which is lower than GVR's season PFF rating of 64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, kdels62 said: He wasn’t good. He wasn’t awful. GVR has been better GVR has been worse. So basically what you’re telling me is….nothing? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: So basically what you’re telling me is….nothing? lol Correct. 1 game isn’t gonna say much about the team or the player unless he’s fundamental miscast. So in the end we learned nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Hot take - The Jets need to address RG in the offseason. But they have a potential decent one on the roster.....Conner McGovern. He's an imposter at C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, TheClashFan said: But they have a potential decent one on the roster.....Conner McGovern. He's an imposter at C. Not according to his PFF stats. He has played fine. Having GVR playing to his right doesn't help him in any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I watched him a decent bit. Was on the ground a lot and didn't look very good to me. I'd still rather give him an extended tryout to see what we have, he's rusty and in a new system, GVR is a known quantity and an established liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 11:44 AM, Integrity28 said: But people told me that Saleh holds nobody accountable… It's about time. Another Davis dropsy game, and he should be held accountable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: I didn't notice him like I always seemed to notice GVR so that's probably good. Watched him play, because I wanted to see if he was much better than GVR, and the difference was very noticeable on most plays. Had a few slip ups, but I think that will clear itself up when he plays more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Was Laurent Duvernay-Tardif an upgrade over Greg Van Roten in Jets debut? By Michael Nania 11/22/2021 One of the big storylines heading into the New York Jets’ Week 11 clash with the Miami Dolphins was the benching of starting right guard Greg Van Roten, who led all NFL right guards with 32 pressures allowed over the first 10 weeks of the season. Just hours before the game began, it was announced that Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (widely known as “LDT” for short) would be taking Van Roten’s spot at right guard. The 30-year-old longtime Chiefs guard was recently acquired from Kansas City in exchange for tight end Daniel Brown, who has already been waived by his new team. Duvernay-Tardif made his true Jets debut with three special teams snaps in Week 10 against Buffalo, but Week 11 would mark his first appearance on the offensive line. Duvernay-Tardif was healthy throughout the season for the Chiefs but did not appear in a game for them while serving as a backup interior lineman. He last played in 2019, as he opted out of the 2020 season to aid in providing medical care in his come country of Canada. The Quebec native graduated from medical school in 2018 with a Doctor of Medicine and Master of Surgery. When the world last saw him play, Duvernay-Tardif was a good starter for Kansas City. He was the Chiefs’ starting right guard throughout their run to a Super Bowl title in 2019. That year, Duvernay-Tardif allowed pressure on just 3.4% of his snaps in pass protection, which ranked seventh-best among right guards. Duvernay-Tardif started 57 games over five seasons with the Chiefs. Two years later, the doctor’s first assignment since protecting Patrick Mahomes in Super Bowl 54 was to give Joe Flacco and the 2-7 Jets better protection than the league-worst Van Roten could. Unfortunately, Duvernay-Tardif’s pass protection looked rusty – which is to be expected for a man who is easing into a new environment and had not played any snaps on the offensive line (even in the preseason) in 658 days. Duvernay-Tardif was credited with allowing a team-high seven pressures against Miami’s blitz-heavy defense. That ties the worst single-game total allowed by Van Roten this year (Week 2 vs. New England). No other Jets offensive lineman allowed more than two pressures in the game. It wasn’t all bad. On the positive side, Duvernay-Tardif proved to be a big upgrade in the run game. He earned a run-blocking grade of 78.0 from Pro Football Focus, which led all Jets offensive linemen and is better than any single-game mark posted by Van Roten this season. His efforts helped the Jets’ rushing attack average a season-best 5.7 yards per carry. Duvernay-Tardif (#72) can be seen maintaining his block on Michael Carter’s 39-yard scamper below, preventing his man from chasing the play down from the back side. Keeping back-side defenders at bay is something Van Roten has struggled with. Van Roten allows his man to cross the line of scrimmage and make a play on this run to the left side. Expectations for Duvernay-Tardif are low. All the Jets need is for him to be “less bad” than Van Roten was. Even if he is comparable to or worse than Van Roten, it is difficult to complain considering that the Jets essentially got him for free, and you have to respect their effort to at least try something new considering how consistently poor Van Roten was. These were Duvernay-Tardif’s first live snaps as an offensive lineman in nearly 22 months. He has only been familiarizing himself with his new Jets teammates and the Jets’ offensive scheme for slightly under three weeks. While his seven-pressure total is disappointing, it would be silly to criticize him harshly for his performance in these circumstances. Let’s give Duvernay-Tardif some time and see if he can iron out his protection to the point where he proves himself as a solid short-term upgrade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Peace Frog said: I think Feeney actually saw the field today--at least I thought I saw him. Not sure how he graded out. I think they brought him as a blocking TE in a few formations. I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 the only issue with using tardif is that he's only on a one year contract. so they still have to solidify the position before next season. and tardif is 30 so he might be good for 3 more seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I honestly dont care if he was an upgrade in his debut. First off, he's hasnt played Football in months and just got here, its kind of shocking he started so quickly but that's what I like about it. Send a message. It had to be done. GVR has been atrocious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Teams normally trade starter caliber guards at the trade deadline for a downgrade at TE. I can't figure out why Tardif didn't look like Alan Faneca out there yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Snell Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 23 hours ago, varjet said: LDT actually PFF graded at a 57, which is lower than GVR's season PFF rating of 64. Even more rotten than VanRotten ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 11:44 AM, Integrity28 said: But people told me that Saleh holds nobody accountable… It’s week 11 kid lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, FactsOnly said: It’s week 11 kid lmfao This is indeed a fact. An irrelevant one, but still a true fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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