Dcat Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Ya see.... it can be done. And should be done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 they always go before the HC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Wow, he went down in ultimate fashion fired as HC, then as OC Maybe he can be passing game coordinator for Gase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 This is Joe Judge's second year... ominous sign. Push your chips in now - the Giants will have a new GM in January and in all likelihood, a new head coach - whether it be this season or next. The Giants will likely force Judge on the new GM only for Judge to get fired the following year to hire 'their guy'. Quarterback is a different story. I would say they draft a QB but there is no prospect worth drafting in the first. I think they stick with Jones for another year and maybe take one in the top 5 in 2023. You know Jones will be out, it's just a matter of time. The Giants make the Jets look good. 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetsFanatic Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Unlike the Jets, the Giants were expected to win this year. This move is made because they are feeling pressure. Don’t know how much difference it will actually make. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 The Giants were all in this year with playoff asportations They only have one more win then us People should be fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dcat said: Ya see.... it can be done. And should be done. Yeah, this is exactly what the Giants are trying to accomplish. Make people think the problem isn't that Daniel Jones sucks or that Gettleman has put together an awful roster or that Joe Judge is clueless.....it's all Jason Garret's fault. Yay, problem solved. PS- There were people that wanted Lafleur fired after 3 games. Meanwhile, his offense has looked much better of late. Firing OC or DC's midseason is generally the actions of a desperate organization trying to find someone to take the fall. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Unlike the Jets, the Giants were expected to win this year. This move is made because they are feeling pressure. Don’t know how much difference it will actually make. Daniel Jones is bad. It would be like having Sam Darnold and firing the OC to fix the offenses problems. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 When Gettleman gets canned after the season, do they fire Judge or do the hire a GM with the coach in place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: The Giants were all in this year with playoff asportations They only have one more win then us People should be fired 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 The Danielle Jones and Saquon Barkley picks warrant Gettlemans head on a stick. He picked those guys with the #2 & #6 picks back to back years. This is the closest comp to Jones that you can find. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, LSJF said: When Gettleman gets canned after the season, do they fire Judge or do the hire a GM with the coach in place? The Jets would keep Judge in that scenario. I would guess the Giants are smart enough to know that the new GM will want to bring in their own guy and not keep the guy that is behind back to back awful seasons (and no real resume to suggest the last 2 years are a fluke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: playoff asportations Bro what 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, LSJF said: When Gettleman gets canned after the season, do they fire Judge or do the hire a GM with the coach in place? Think it depends on how the next 7 play out. If the Giants only scrape 3 or less wins to finish 6-11 5-12 i say hes done. If they can string some wins at the end may be he stays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 Journeyman 3rd stringer Josh Johnson came off the bench to throw for over 300 yards and 3 TDs in this scheme. Mike White, who had never played an NFL snap before, had the first 400+ yard game by a Jet QB in 21 years. But yeah. It's the OC that's the problem with this team and has been for decades. Paul Hackett, Mike Heimerdinger, Brian Schottenheimer, Tony Sparano, Marty Mornhinweg, Chan Gailey, Jeremy Bates, Gase/Loggains, Mike Lafleur....It's always the OC that's the biggest problem with this franchise, isn't it? Once you get rid of the OC everything will get better guys! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 they don't have to "fire" LaFleur. Just assign him to some other job for the time being. You're all to forgiving of his stubborn little scripted B.S. which directly led to Zach failing for thfirst half of his rookie season. He has that arrogant mindset I think and will be reluctant to deviate from whatever his little plan is to what could actually work best for the players we have. If you trust him, then be my guest. I don't. We'll see what he has Wilson doing soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post varjet Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 Lafleur is doing well at this point. He is not the problem. I wonder if Ulbrich is the problem. They all get at least 2022 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: The Danielle Jones and Saquon Barkley picks warrant Gettlemans head on a stick. He picked those guys with the #2 & #6 picks back to back years. This is the closest comp to Jones that you can find. At least he didn't draft a safety in the first round while having a near 40 year old journeyman at QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Journeyman 3rd stringer Josh Johnson came off the bench to throw for over 300 yards and 3 TDs in this scheme. Mike White, who had never played an NFL snap before, had the first 400+ yard game by a Jet QB in 21 years. But yeah. It's the OC that's the problem with this team and has been for decades. Paul Hackett, Mike Heimerdinger, Brian Schottenheimer, Chan Gailey, Jeremy Bates, Mike Lafleur....It's always the OC that's the biggest problem with this franchise, isn't it? Once you get rid of the OC everything will get better guys! We haven't sniffed the playoffs since Shotty was canned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, LSJF said: When Gettleman gets canned after the season, do they fire Judge or do the hire a GM with the coach in place? both go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Beerfish Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 A cover my ass firing if i ever saw one. Classic bad hire in the the first place and now a convenient guy to dump now. I'm sure Garret coached Danny dimes to throw that pass into mclendons belly. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetFreak89 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Good for them but seeing what our offense has done with competent QB play give LaFleur another year at least. It looks like the early struggles were mostly caused by Zach being a bad rookie...and that's a good thing. The worst case scenario for this team would be Wilson being bad AND LaFleur being bad. At least now the only thing we need to fix is Zach and he gets to go into next year running the same system. It would have been horrible to pull a Darnold and make him learn a new system in year 2 if we were forced to fire our OC. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Isn't this the second coach Judge has fired mid-season? That doesn't speak well of his evaluative powers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Dcat said: Ya see.... it can be done. And should be done. What should be done, exactly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: What should be done, exactly? I believe that LaFleur is the biggest mistake of the present regime and he has to be replaced. I know. Not happening. Good buddy of Saleh. He sucks. Not ready for this job really. Although some say the recent improvement and move up to the booth change all that. Yeah. Sure it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Dcat said: Ya see.... it can be done. And should be done. Agreed, but I am glad that the Jets didn't give up on LaFleur. He settled in as OC once he got into the booth. He made Flacco look respectable. We were about to go up 14-7, but someone let Brandon Jones have a free shot at Flacco. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post y2k8 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 19 hours ago, BigRy56 said: Quarterback is a different story. I would say they draft a QB but there is no prospect worth drafting in the first. I think they stick with Jones for another year and maybe take one in the top 5 in 2023. You know Jones will be out, it's just a matter of time. By March, the draftnick experts will believe that there are no less than 3 generational QB talents in this year's draft... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: I believe that LaFleur is the biggest mistake of the present regime and he has to be replaced. I know. Not happening. You're correct, it's not happening. 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: Good buddy of Saleh. He sucks. Not ready for this job really. I'm not sure I would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dcat said: I believe that LaFleur is the biggest mistake of the present regime and he has to be replaced. I know. Not happening. Good buddy of Saleh. He sucks. Not ready for this job really. Although some say the recent improvement and move up to the booth change all that. Yeah. Sure it does. LaFleur is towards the very bottom of why the Jets are 2-8. When Zach Wilson was skipping passes to WIDE OPEN receivers, I'm certain that Mike LaFleur didn't call for passes that left a divot in front of the receiver's feet. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Journeyman 3rd stringer Josh Johnson came off the bench to throw for over 300 yards and 3 TDs in this scheme. Mike White, who had never played an NFL snap before, had the first 400+ yard game by a Jet QB in 21 years. But yeah. It's the OC that's the problem with this team and has been for decades. Paul Hackett, Mike Heimerdinger, Brian Schottenheimer, Tony Sparano, Marty Mornhinweg, Chan Gailey, Jeremy Bates, Gase/Loggains, Mike Lafleur....It's always the OC that's the biggest problem with this franchise, isn't it? Once you get rid of the OC everything will get better guys! LaFleur has totally turned it around since he stated he hds to re-evaluate things and then went into the booth to call plays. He has done a very good job for about the last 5 or 6 weeks. The guy that needs to go is Ulbrick. The D sucks, has not improved and has not made any meaningful adjustments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 This is a gutless fire Garret wasn't missing open receivers all over the field.....doesn't really matter Giants are going nowhere with the trio of Dave Gettlemen, Joe Judge, and Daniel Jones. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Isn't this the second coach Judge has fired mid-season? That doesn't speak well of his evaluative powers. NY media lap up his brand of coach speak. Even now. Amazing. The guy is a fraud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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