Popular Post Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 Those on this board that make every week appear as if it is career determining for a GM that just tore everything down at the end of 2020, a new coaching staff, and a team full of young players are just so absurdly off base, I don't know where to begin. These are ridiculous posts. This is year 1 of a multi-year rebuild. The Jets had massive holes everywhere on the roster and a significant lack of talent to start the season and have lost multiple key players to injuries throughout the preseason and season. Wilson, Saleh, and Douglas will all be back for 2022 regardless of what happens on the field Sunday or the next 6 games. Your posts (you know who you are) that call for firings and benching every day are tiresome and futile and uninformed. This rebuild is going to require some more patience beyond the next 6 games regardless of how many seasons it has been since the Jets were competitive. 20 1 13 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 Withdrawn 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Oh really????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: GFY The escalation in this particular instance is rather grossly expedient. 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: This is year 1 of a multi-year rebuild. This is year 2.5 of a multi year rebuild. End of season is the halfway mark, still zero progress. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maury77 Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 Look, I’m about as pessimistic about the Douglas, Saleh and Wilson trio as anyone around here. None of them are going anywhere until at least 2023. 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Warfish said: GFY Withdrawn 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, JTJet said: This is year 2.5 of a multi year rebuild. End of season is the halfway mark, still zero progress. It's year 1 with Wilson, Saleh and about 80% of the roster. Douglas tore it down after the Gase failure. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, JTJet said: This is year 2.5 of a multi year rebuild. End of season is the halfway mark, still zero progress. Yup. You got it. This is what it takes to rebuild a roster that was decimated by Mike Maccagnan. He has only been gone for two seasons and barely ANY of his players are on the Jets roster, OR ANY ROSTER for that matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: It's year 1 with Wilson, Saleh and about 80% of the roster. Douglas tore it down after the Gase failure. All facts. But also fact, is that this is year 2.5 of the rebuild through JDs 6 year contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Yup. You got it. This is what it takes to rebuild a roster that was decimated by Mike Maccagnan. He has only been gone for two seasons and barely ANY of his players are on the Jets roster, OR ANY ROSTER for that matter. Correct. Everyone on the roster is basically JDs guy. And barring about 3, they all suck. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, JTJet said: All facts. But also fact, is that this is year 2.5 of the rebuild through JDs 6 year contract. No. Year 2. He missed free agency and the draft. He tried to work with scraps and that is the fault of ownership for letting Maccagnan mess up another draft. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Please remain calm - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, JTJet said: Correct. Everyone on the roster is basically JDs guy. And barring about 3, they all suck. No. If you want to have an adult debate, we can, but if you are going to act like a child, this is not going to be productive. About 3? I can't take you seriously. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, JTJet said: This is year 2.5 of a multi year rebuild. End of season is the halfway mark, still zero progress. Year two, everything worth having a GM for was over with that first .5 of a year. I know youd like to bump it up but it aint happening 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: No. Year 2. He missed free agency and the draft. He tried to work with scraps and that is the fault of ownership for letting Maccagnan mess up another draft. It is year 2.5 of JDs contract. So its year 2.5 of the rebuild. I dont know how to break math down better honestly. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, JTJet said: Correct. Everyone on the roster is basically JDs guy. And barring about 3, they all suck. Because your crystal ball says so? You know who will or better yet wont develop? Because youre a GM where exactly No one here knows wtf theyre talking about. QW etc should tell you that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 minute ago, JTJet said: It is year 2.5 of JDs contract. So its year 2.5 of the rebuild. I dont know how to break math down better honestly. Who cares what his contract says, its how long hes been able to do what GMs do. Year two, get over it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post undertow Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 Technically Douglas has only been here a week he's got at least 5 more years to get rid of all of John Idziks players. Happy Halloween. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, JTJet said: It is year 2.5 of JDs contract. So its year 2.5 of the rebuild. I dont know how to break math down better honestly. No. Year 2. He missed free agency and the draft. He tried to work with scraps and that is the fault of ownership for letting Maccagnan mess up another draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 47 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Those on this board that make every week appear as if it is career determining for a GM that just tore everything down at the end of 2020, a new coaching staff, and a team full of young players are just so absurdly off base, I don't know where to begin. These are ridiculous posts. This is year 1 of a multi-year rebuild. The Jets had massive holes everywhere on the roster and a significant lack of talent to start the season and have lost multiple key players to injuries throughout the preseason and season. Wilson, Saleh, and Douglas will all be back for 2022 regardless of what happens on the field Sunday or the next 6 games. Your posts (you know who you are) that call for firings and benching every day are tiresome and futile and uninformed. If you don't have the patience for this much needed rebuild (which, again, is one year old), go follow another team. No one is getting fired, it would be one of the dumbest things Jets ownership could do. This is a total developmental season. Also it appears JD had a very solid 2021 draft. Stay the course. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 It might be year 2.5 or year 37 or whatever, but in the ownership's eyes it's year 1. So nobody's getting fired, no matter how technical it is. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: OK. If you don't think it is over the top to have 20 threads a week about firing Douglas and Saleh and how Wilson is a bust, good for you. If you think every game for a rebuilding 2 win team is a "must " win, then good for you too. If you don't have the patience to get through the next 6 weeks without making each game a referendum on everybody, I don't know what to say. I think you don't get to tell us who to root for. That's all. Beyond that, you are more than entitled to your opinion re: the foolishness of specific repetative thread topics or posts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: I think you don't get to tell us who to root for. That's all. Beyond that, you are more than entitled to your opinion re: the foolishness of specific repetative thread topics or posts. Fair enough. I'll retract that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I disagree - someone, somewhere is going to get fired 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 The fans will stop talking about firing coaches when the team starts winning. You’re welcome. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hex said: in the ownership's eyes it's year 1 People who don’t understand this key point are going to be VERY disappointed over at least the next 18 months. If not longer. Adam Gase is like Jesus Christ (B.C. and A.D.) In Jets years there is the time B.G. and then there is the time A.G. We are in year 1 A.G. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: No. Year 2. He missed free agency and the draft. He tried to work with scraps and that is the fault of ownership for letting Maccagnan mess up another draft. Its year 2.5 of his contract. This isnt up for debate. The rebuild is tied to his contract no matter how you shake it. If progress doesnt start fairly soon, do you think Woody honors all 6 years of that contract? No. He will not. Thus, the rebuild is tied to how much leeway Woody wants to give JD if we continue to fail. You can call it 2 all you want, but it's just to make yourself feel better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JTJet Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Who cares what his contract says, its how long hes been able to do what GMs do. Year two, get over it. ...And he was able to do what GMs do during the 2019 season. If he had the draft in 2019 or not is irrelevant to the length of his contract. Woody will be looking at his contract and comparing it to how much progress has been made relative to how long JD has been employed, which is zero as of right now. When it comes time to make that decision, if we continue to suck, he ain't honoring the full contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, JTJet said: It is year 2.5 of JDs contract. So its year 2.5 of the rebuild. I dont know how to break math down better honestly. You've got the timing right but maybe not the organization's priorities (such as they are). The team made a decision to give Gase another year. Dumb, but it's what they did. JD could begin a tear down but not go over the top. Also, he had the Macc scouting staff in place for his first swing at the draft. Not many survived to year 2. We can argue endlessly about what might have been. Clearly 2021 is full rebuild. He's got cap space. There simply can't be a repeat--JD knows that better than anyone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 One of the things that is most amusing during the holiday season is watching us jets fans eat our own. Some of us def need to get out more, maybe take up yoga or something..... or deer hunting who knows 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: No. Year 2. He missed free agency and the draft. He tried to work with scraps and that is the fault of ownership for letting Maccagnan mess up another draft. You realize he made moves that season after the draft and during the season right? Remember the Khalil signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 So now this is year 1 of the rebuild. Wow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maury77 Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 I will never understand the insistence of some of you that the only way to rebuild is to be as dreadful as the Jets have been this season, so it’s ok. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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