Somehow Zach is effective........

[Nixhead]

I'm trying hard to come up with reasons why we can say at least say:   Zach seems effective -  so here are some of my reasons:

1) We won the game  - gotta give me that one

2) Zach had a couple nice 20 yard passes to Moore - hopefully the start of something big

3) Zach only turned the ball over once - I will take once in a game for sure!

4) Zach didn't try to do too much - he pretty much stayed within the offense

5) Zach had a nice run for a TD - I don't see Flacco making that play. Good decision by Zach

6) Zach threw for 145 yards and zero TD's - well its a team effort

7) Zach handed the ball off a lot and the Jets had a decent ground game - Zach played some game manager

Zach wasn't great and was barely adequate yet we came back from being down 14-3 on the road against a bad team but a team that just beat a playoff contender so 

somehow Zach is an effective QB at this point as he has been at times in all games but two. Can't wait till he is actually good and I think he will be - its just gonna take some time.

 

[PS17]

Zach blows 

[TuscanyTile2]

Just now, Nixhead said:

I'm trying hard to come up with reasons why we can say at least say:   Zach seems effective -  so here are some of my reasons:

1) We won the game  - gotta give me that one

2) Zach had a couple nice 20 yard passes to Moore - hopefully the start of something big

3) Zach only turned the ball over once - I will take once in a game for sure!

4) Zach didn't try to do too much - he pretty much stayed within the offense

5) Zach had a nice run for a TD - I don't see Flacco making that play. Good decision by Zach

6) Zach threw for 145 yards and zero TD's - well its a team effort

7) Zach handed the ball off a lot and the Jets had a decent ground game - Zach played some game manager

Zach wasn't great and was barely adequate yet we came back from being down 14-3 on the road against a bad team but a team that just beat a playoff contender so 

somehow Zach is an effective QB at this point as he has been at times in all games but two. Can't wait till he is actually good and I think he will be - its just gonna take some time.

 

Zach was above average at handoffs today. 

[Nixhead]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Zach was above average at handoffs today. 

Thats what I'm saying - he was effective - at least he did the handoffs without a hitch!

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, Nixhead said:

Thats what I'm saying - he was effective - at least he did the handoffs without a hitch!

That’s all a reasonable person could ever ask from a #2 overall pick.  

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, PS17 said:

Zach blows 

He effectively blows.

[Nixhead]

Just now, TuscanyTile2 said:

That’s all a reasonable person could ever ask from a #2 overall pick.  

Well I wouldn't go that far but this is the Jets we are talking about.

[jetstream23]

There was a play in the game where I believe it was 3rd down, Zach rolled out of the pocket and had either 50/50 chance down the field or a "check down" to the TE who was open but about 4 yards behind the 1st down marker.  Zach made the seemingly right decision to hit the TE (forget who it was) and the TE turned up the field and barreled through a tackle to get the 1st.

I'm hopeful that positive result gets subconsciously filed away in Zach's head so that he continues to be comfortable and even automatic with those decisions.  It was okay to throw the ball short of the sticks.  It was okay to forgo a longer pass attempt with both higher reward but higher risk potential.  It was okay to trust that your guy could potentially make a play after the catch.

I know that @Uncle Nicco is completely absolving Zach of wrongdoing on the INT but I'll meet him halfway here.  It wasn't a great decision and the ball shouldn't have been tossed, but it was also very unlucky and bad timing that Ty Johnson was turning to block as Zach made it look like he was running.  If THAT was the worst play of the day for Zach (it was) then his overall performance wasn't necessarily bad, it was just underwhelming.

My biggest concern with Zach (and I didn't hear anybody talk about this in the Draft process) is that he seems to be having accuracy issues, particularly on short throws.  He's also out of "speed sync" with some of his passes, throwing harder than he should be on check downs and 5 yard passes.  I'm hoping this gets better with more game reps.  If the Jets aren't getting enough practice reps at "game speed" during the week then maybe Zach has too much adrenaline going on gameday and is simply firing balls too hard.  I just don't know.

[Lupz27]

31 minutes ago, Nixhead said:

I'm trying hard to come up with reasons why we can say at least say:   Zach seems effective -  so here are some of my reasons:

1) We won the game  - gotta give me that one

2) Zach had a couple nice 20 yard passes to Moore - hopefully the start of something big

3) Zach only turned the ball over once - I will take once in a game for sure!

4) Zach didn't try to do too much - he pretty much stayed within the offense

5) Zach had a nice run for a TD - I don't see Flacco making that play. Good decision by Zach

6) Zach threw for 145 yards and zero TD's - well its a team effort

7) Zach handed the ball off a lot and the Jets had a decent ground game - Zach played some game manager

Zach wasn't great and was barely adequate yet we came back from being down 14-3 on the road against a bad team but a team that just beat a playoff contender so 

somehow Zach is an effective QB at this point as he has been at times in all games but two. Can't wait till he is actually good and I think he will be - its just gonna take some time.

 

I have the best optometrist I swear DM me I’ll hook you up.

[Gastineau Lives]

33 minutes ago, PS17 said:

Zach blows me away with how much potential I see in him. Once the game slows down. it's gonna be...majestic

I agree!

[NIGHT STALKER]

I wonder if the Jax fan base is blowing up Lawrence like half the Jet fan base is with Wilson?  Ole Trevor isn't much better than Wilson at all and he's playing with a more experienced team, including his coaches.

[Gastineau Lives]

3 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

I have the best optometrist I swear DM me I’ll hook you up.

If it'll help me see Zach better, then I'm all for it. The future's so bright I gotta wear shades, baby

[Gastineau Lives]

1 minute ago, NIGHT STALKER said:

I wonder if the Jax fan base is blowing up Lawrence like half the Jet fan base is with Wilson?  Ole Trevor isn't much better than Wilson at all and he's playing with a more experienced team, including his coaches.

Nah, Jacksonville is so used to success that they can be patient through a little rough patch. 

[Larz]

Wilson was shaky and had a rough day

That’s it

no need to perform an autopsy or change the plan or the depth chart 

[jgb]

Zach has flashes…

of Josh Rosen.

[Gastineau Lives]

6 minutes ago, jgb said:

Zach has flashes…

of Josh Rosen.

booooo

hisssssss

meany

[jgb]

8 minutes ago, Larz said:

Wilson was shaky and had a rough day

That’s it

no need to perform an autopsy or change the plan or the depth chart 

Ok… one game doesn’t mean much except it’s the same as all his other games and he now has a body of work that places him into a category that would require a historical turnaround to be a good QB.

[Fantasy Island]

Beck going to turn this train around......

[T0mShane]

37 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

If THAT was the worst play of the day for Zach (it was) then his overall performance wasn't necessarily bad, it was just underwhelming.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

booooo

hisssssss

meany

And Walter Cronkite was a jerk for reporting on the Vietnam War.

[Gastineau Lives]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

And Walter Cronkite was a jerk for reporting on the Vietnam War.

Just like Walter Commikite, you are emboldening the enema

[jgb]

Just now, Gastineau Lives said:

Just like Walter Commikite, you are emboldening the enema

History will prove me right, as usual. Then you’ll be onto the next guy telling us how “this time it’s different.”

[undertow]

[Gastineau Lives]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

History will prove me right, as usual. Then you’ll be onto the next guy telling us how “this time it’s different.”

I will never stop falling in love. It's all I got.

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said:

I will never stop falling in love. It's all I got.

Truer words never spoken

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, undertow said:

It’s a Jets homer who was told that was Zach’s blood. He then jumped off the Grand Canyon believing he had been rendered immortal. It was not an open casket funeral.

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, Nixhead said:

Thats what I'm saying - he was effective - at least he did the handoffs without a hitch!

Great, we drafted  a QB at #2 so he could do the same every backup does, hand off. 

[slimjasi]

Wilson has to get a lot better. Simple as that. 

 

Two things I do like about him are that:

1) He has consistently played better in the second half of games than the first half. This is a very underrated trait in good QBs and is the opposite of Darnold. 

2) He might have a little toughness in him. He's taken a lot of big hits this year and has played well late in a few games despite some major, major  struggles. 

He has to fix the short range accuracy though. He's not a long term starter without fixing that sooner than later. 

[ryu79]

1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

My biggest concern with Zach (and I didn't hear anybody talk about this in the Draft process) is that he seems to be having accuracy issues, particularly on short throws.  He's also out of "speed sync" with some of his passes, throwing harder than he should be on check downs and 5 yard passes.  I'm hoping this gets better with more game reps.  If the Jets aren't getting enough practice reps at "game speed" during the week then maybe Zach has too much adrenaline going on gameday and is simply firing balls to hard.  I just don't know.

Bart and Willie took him to town on this after he was asked about it in the presser and said he is 'just trying to let it rip.' I THINK he meant that he was trying to not to over think to today and just be more decisive, but Bart took him literally and said he is gonna lose the receiver room if he keeps doing that.

[sciond]

[jgb]

1 hour ago, More Cowbell said:

Great, we drafted  a QB at #2 so he could do the same every backup does, hand off. 

Yeah but flashes bro

[K Clue]

2 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

There was a play in the game where I believe it was 3rd down, Zach rolled out of the pocket and had either 50/50 chance down the field or a "check down" to the TE who was open but about 4 yards behind the 1st down marker.  Zach made the seemingly right decision to hit the TE (forget who it was) and the TE turned up the field and barreled through a tackle to get the 1st.

That was Ryan “make a catch and fall down” Griffin lol

All jokes a side it’s nice to see the tight ends finally being utilized on this team, even if they aren’t that good.

[JoJoTownsell1]

3 hours ago, PS17 said:

Zach blows 

A fanbase like this deserves nothing less

[jgb]

1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

A fanbase like this deserves nothing less

Hey at least half of us are convinced that Zach is super awesome and the rest of the team sucks. Ironically this half calls themselves Real Jets Fans.

[jetstream23]

33 minutes ago, K Clue said:

That was Ryan “make a catch and fall down” Griffin lol

All jokes a side it’s nice to see the tight ends finally being utilized on this team, even if they aren’t that good.

Ha!  He didn't fall down for once.  It was actually a good play.