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I don't know what the hell happened to Mims this season, but with Davis out and the playoffs officially out of the question, Saleh and his staff need to give Mims as many reps as possible. They may ha

Why does everybody want to act like the coaching staff has kept Mims in the doghouse?  That was early in the season.  He has been out sick for weeks.  He came back this week and got snaps.  He had the

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2 minutes ago, maury77 said:

I don't know what the hell happened to Mims this season, but with Davis out and the playoffs officially out of the question, Saleh and his staff need to give Mims as many reps as possible. They may hate him, but the guy was a second round pick for a reason and he was pretty good as a rookie. You have to see what you have in him. 

You would think.  Might be a good time for JD to sit the coaching staff down and have a heart-to-heart.

At the very least, you play him, hope he plays well, and put him on the block if the CS really do not want him.

But as of now, it serves as another wasted 2nd round pick on a WR. 

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It will be interesting to see if the Jets sign one of the PS WRs to the 53 with Davis going onto IR.

If Vyncint Smith, DJ Montgomery or Keelan Doss end up playing more than Mims, that will tell us all we need to know.

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19 minutes ago, maury77 said:

I don't know what the hell happened to Mims this season, but with Davis out and the playoffs officially out of the question, Saleh and his staff need to give Mims as many reps as possible. They may hate him, but the guy was a second round pick for a reason and he was pretty good as a rookie. You have to see what you have in him. 

100%.  They punted on the season before the season started so why wouldnt you put a guy like Mims in, give him as much run as you can and if you really hate him as a player and dont want him around, lace him on his game film, put him in his spot in front of his peers and see how he responds.  There is not trade market for him anymore, so push him to the limit and see how he responds.

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20 minutes ago, maury77 said:

I don't know what the hell happened to Mims this season, but with Davis out and the playoffs officially out of the question, Saleh and his staff need to give Mims as many reps as possible. They may hate him, but the guy was a second round pick for a reason and he was pretty good as a rookie. You have to see what you have in him. 

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100%.  They punted on the season before the season started so why wouldnt you put a guy like Mims in, give him as much run as you can and if you really hate him as a player and dont want him around, lace is game film, put him in his spot and see how he responds.  There is not trade market for him anymore, so push him to the limit and see how he responds.

Disagree.  This season is all about finding what we have in Flaccopono.

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2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Why does everybody want to act like the coaching staff has kept Mims in the doghouse?  That was early in the season.  He has been out sick for weeks.  He came back this week and got snaps.  He had the big penalty on the block and didn't do anything.  He is going to get more snaps with Davis out, but if he is still lost and dicking around we will probably also see Crowder, Berrios, and Cole getting more and Smith getting a few snaps here and there.  

It's not a ******* conspiracy.

We shall see if he gets the snaps.

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2 hours ago, JiFapono said:

100%.  They punted on the season before the season started so why wouldnt you put a guy like Mims in, give him as much run as you can and if you really hate him as a player and dont want him around, lace him on his game film, put him in his spot in front of his peers and see how he responds.  There is not trade market for him anymore, so push him to the limit and see how he responds.

The positive of having a Parcells around is you knew that would be happening behind the scenes. No gray area. Certain things were just not tolerated. We really have zero clue on how the Jets brass communicates expectations with under performing players. 

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3 hours ago, CanadaSteve said:

You would think.  Might be a good time for JD to sit the coaching staff down and have a heart-to-heart.

At the very least, you play him, hope he plays well, and put him on the block if the CS really do not want him.

But as of now, it serves as another wasted 2nd round pick on a WR. 

He gets snaps and will now. 

His problem isnt the coaching staff, its when hes on the field he does so little 

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3 hours ago, maury77 said:

I don't know what the hell happened to Mims this season, but with Davis out and the playoffs officially out of the question, Saleh and his staff need to give Mims as many reps as possible. They may hate him, but the guy was a second round pick for a reason and he was pretty good as a rookie. You have to see what you have in him. 

Mims was never pretty good as a rookie.  He had one decent game.

You know who had pretty good rookie years.  Jefferson, Aiyuk, CeeDee, Higgins, Claypool, Luedy, Shenault and Pittman. 

Not Mimsy.

 

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21 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

We shall see if he gets the snaps.

Yes.  Yes, we will.  If he doesn't that is not an indication that the coaches are out to get him or that they "need to be talked to."  The guy missed three weeks with an illness and played more than 1/3 of the snaps with Davis taking the bulk before he went out.  He got more snaps than Berrios.  20+ snaps should be enough to show you have something.  If you have anything to show.

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Never forget when Mike and the Dog were live at the draft in 1994, I believe. With Sapp sitting there, the crowd screaming his name, we take Kyle Brady. As the entire Jet  fan base goes batsh*t, big Mike says that we just got the best player on that loaded Penn State team, we won’t believe how great he will be, and he will make us go “Warren who?” Just another in a long line of doughboy classics.😁

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29 minutes ago, section314 said:

Never forget when Mike and the Dog were live at the draft in 1994, I believe. With Sapp sitting there, the crowd screaming his name, we take Kyle Brady. As the entire Jet  fan base goes batsh*t, big Mike says that we just got the best player on that loaded Penn State team, we won’t believe how great he will be, and he will make us go “Warren who?” Just another in a long line of doughboy classics.😁

That was our version of "Brady"

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3 hours ago, dcJet said:

Mims was never pretty good as a rookie.  He had one decent game.

You know who had pretty good rookie years.  Jefferson, Aiyuk, CeeDee, Higgins, Claypool, Luedy, Shenault and Pittman. 

Not Mimsy.

 

Which game was his one decent game?  His three best games were consecutive games of 4/62, 3/71 and 4/67. 

I don't think your analysis is really fair.  He didn't have a great rookie season, and looking back it seems even worse.  OTOH, those that thought he would be good in 2021 have their reasons.  He missed the first 6 with the hamstring.  Then he came in and over 6 weeks was never below 40 yards.  Extrapolated over a 16 game season he'd have been just under 1,000.  Then he missed the Seahawk game on the exempt list with "personal reasons."  He came back and didn't top 20 over the last 3, including getting shut out on 2 targets against Cleveland.  

I don't know what happened, but he missed that game and has sucked ever since.  Before that he was producing.  Maybe there is something to him being a bit of a problem child.  Maybe something else happened.  Looking back, 6 decent not great games, with no TDs isn't much to hang your hat on, but after the Raiders game he had been looking good and while he hadn't scored I think he had a 2 point conversion.  After that it all went off the rails.

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1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Denzel Mims is still ahead of Tyler Kroft and Tevin Coleman on the Jets' receiving leaders list this year.

And despite starting 9 fewer games than him, Mims only trails Ryan Griffin by 61 yards on the season.

These last 5 games are everything for Mims. No Davis, Jets letting Wilson throw 25+ times a game. 

If success is happening for him as a Jet, it happens now. 

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