Adams--The Seattle Times Speaks

[addage]

From today's Seattle Times--and keep in mind that media in Seattle support their teams.  It's not like the NYC media!  And they missed the part about the 2022 3rd Round pick.

 

It’s been that kind of year for the Seahawks (4-8), who sit near the bottom of the NFC standings.

But perhaps it would be more appropriate if the stadium began to be filled with New York Jets green. It would be the least those fans could do to show their appreciation. Seattle, after all, gave that franchise the greatest trade it could ask for.

Two offseasons ago, the Seahawks dealt safety Bradley McDougald and two first-round draft picks — one in 2021 and the other in 2022 — for Pro Bowl safety Jamal Adams. The move appeared to be the ultimate “win now” move for the Seahawks, who likely viewed themselves as one key piece from Super Bowl contention.

They ended up going 12-4 in 2020 before losing in the first round of the playoffs to the Rams, and Adams — playing in just 12 games — set the NFL season sack record for a defensive back with 9.5.

Successful trade? Maybe on the surface. Upon closer inspection, though, it might have been the worst deal the Seahawks have made.

On Wednesday the Seahawks announced that Adams will have surgery on the shoulder he injured in Sunday’s win over the 49ers and miss the remainder of the season. And for many fans, the news may come as a crushing blow as Seattle’s playoff hopes are all but deceased.

But honestly — was Adams all that productive for this team anyway? Was he worth the two first-round picks and subsequent four-year $70 million contract extension? According to certain stat geeks, not even close.

Pro Football Focus has earned recognition over the years as one of the premier NFL analytic websites. Its staff tracks every player on every play and assigns grades based on their performance. It isn’t a perfect system, but it might be the best thing the public has right now.

As for PFF’s view of Adams with the Seahawks? He stinks.

Last year, despite the record sack numbers, PFF ranked Adams 53rd of 94 safeties in the league. It said that he was 78th-best on pass defense (he allowed a 121.7 passer rating and 57th on run defense (he missed 11 tackles).

This season — in which he has zero sacks — the evaluation has been even worse. Adams ranks 63rd of 91 safeties overall and 85th in pass coverage (to his credit, he is 13th in run defense.)

Before hurting his shoulder Sunday, Adams was getting burned by San Francisco tight end George Kittle. Playing 20 snaps, he earned his lowest PFF grade of the season at 27.4.

Keep in mind, the $17.5 million-per-year extension for Adams doesn’t kick in until next season. Meanwhile, the Seahawks will be without a first-round pick for the second year in a row.

The Jets are loving all of this, of course. They used the extra first-round pick last spring to move up in the draft and select offensive lineman Alijah Vera-Tucker, who has allowed just one sack and has graded out as one of the top rookie guards. And the way the Seahawks are playing, it’s quite possible the Jets will have two of the top-10 picks in next year’s draft.

And they missed the part about the 2022 3rd Round Pick.  Quite a trade by JD.  I know, I know.  He has to convert with the draft so we still have to wait and see.  But it's certainly a good starting point.

 

[slimjasi]

8 minutes ago, addage said:

From today's Seattle Times--and keep in mind that media in Seattle support their teams.  It's not like the NYC media!  And they missed the part about the 2022 3rd Round pick.

 

. And the way the Seahawks are playing, it’s quite possible the Jets will have two of the top-10 picks in next year’s draft.

And they missed the part about the 2022 3rd Round Pick.  Quite a trade by JD.  I know, I know.  He has to convert with the draft so we still have to wait and see.  But it's certainly a good starting point.

 

This is the dream

[RedBeardedSavage]

No matter what you think of JD that trade was glorious. 

[HawkeyeJet]

[Beerfish]

5 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Good thing it is his non pepsi shoulder that is busted.

[section314]

Other than a few in the TV world, and some on this site, pretty much everyone else knows Adams is an overrated bum.

[The Crusher]

Personally I was wondering why he literally stopped tackling earlier in the season. Bunch of Ole’ plays. He was obviously hurt this entire season and trying to play through it. 

[CanadienJetsFan]

28 minutes ago, addage said:

As for PFF’s view of Adams with the Seahawks? He stinks.

I can’t stop giggling 

[freestater]

[Pac]

Just what we need... More fap threads for 80 and Shane.

[Warfish]

9 minutes ago, section314 said:

Other than a few in the TV world, and some on this site, pretty much everyone else knows Adams is an overrated bum.

Alot more than "some", lol.

Can't help but notice how the Adams Fans, like the Darnold Fans, now pretend they knew it all along, lol, lol, lol, gg, gg, gg.

[T0mShane]

36 minutes ago, addage said:

Last year, despite the record sack numbers, PFF ranked Adams 53rd of 94 safeties in the league. It said that he was 78th-best on pass defense (he allowed a 121.7 passer rating and 57th on run defense (he missed 11 tackles).

This season — in which he has zero sacks — the evaluation has been even worse. Adams ranks 63rd of 91 safeties overall and 85th in pass coverage (to his credit, he is 13th in run defense.)

[T0mShane]

17 minutes ago, Pac said:

Just what we need... More fap threads for 80 and Shane.

Should be its own forum imho

[docdhc]

14 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Alot more than "some", lol.

Can't help but notice how the Adams Fans, like the Darnold Fans, now pretend they knew it all along, lol, lol, lol, gg, gg, gg.

I agree it was a great trade and he as a safety is nowhere worth 17 million a year but I wouldn’t compare this to Darnold. Adams has been a good player, a pro bowler, while Sam was among the  worst player at his position for 4 years now. 

[Fantasy Island]

[Darnold's Forehead]

[Lith]

Just think how miserable we would all be on this site if not for the Adams trade.  Watching the Seahawks struggle this year has probably been the most pleasure we have gotten on a consistent basis this year.  Still think a healthy Wilson will rally them to a few wins down the stretch, especially with them heading into Houston this week.

Go Texans!!!

[sec101row23]

Joe Douglas pulled off a brilliant trade and the Jets benefitted greatly and are better off without Jamal.    Jamal ultimately got the contract he wanted and is happy.  The only real losers are the Seattle Seahawks, they made the Jets happy, made Jamal happy but made their team worse.   

[Jetpain]

I have a hard time believing this article.  It says Jamaal is ranked 85th out of 94 safety's in pass defense.  How can there possibly be 9 players worse in coverage than him ??

[BigRy56]

There’s really no positive spin to put on this trade from the Seahawks perspective.

Yes they got a household name and that’s great… but do we think that if the Seahawks decided they wanted to move on tomorrow that they could even get one first back for him? That’s how bad this trade was IMHO

[JohnnyLV]

Cannot forget the $18 million a year in opportunity cost. Quite possibly the worst trade of all time. That said, using the formula of one round less for future picks, we got close to his original draft value if I remember right, but Seattle assumed they would have been deep in the playoffs both years.

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

Getting Adams off the team was a win because of his negative attitude, and his pending contract. Add two first rounders, and a 3rd, and you have a contender for best trade in NFL history. I'm sure you can find two or three better trades, but not more than that. 

[JoeDouglasFart]

54 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said:

Sexy bitch!

[Seibelt]

The Jamaal for Vera Tucker trade was an A, anything additional makes it an extraordinary trade for us. This having the possibility of being a top 10 pick makes it just plain silly. I applaud JD, regardless if this picks turns out to be a Pro Bowler or not.

[IndianaJet]

Draft is in Vegas this year.  If they stick to the prior plans about announcing the picks at the Bellagio Fountains, the perfect place to stay would be at the Cosmopolitan.

It's right next to the Bellagio, the rooms have balconies and you can pick a room that overlooks the fountains where the picks will be being made. 

I think I need to book a trip and hang a Jets sign from the balcony overlooking the Bellagio maybe something like "Thanks Jamal" or "2 First Round Picks for a Box Safety"...something that gets to the point, but is not so over the top that it wouldn't be shown on TV.

[Hex]

41 minutes ago, Jetpain said:

I have a hard time believing this article.  It says Jamaal is ranked 85th out of 94 safety's in pass defense.  How can there possibly be 9 players worse in coverage than him ??

Probably benched PS players whose only games were against high-powered offenses

[ZachEY]

I'm the 53rd best in the nation

[Hex]

Pete Carroll is like a Jets fan; he doesn't let go of some players:

https://nypost.com/2021/12/09/pete-carroll-defends-terrific-jamal-adams-trade-with-jets/

[Beerfish]

1 hour ago, Jetpain said:

I have a hard time believing this article.  It says Jamaal is ranked 85th out of 94 safety's in pass defense.  How can there possibly be 9 players worse in coverage than him ??

NY Jets

[Jet Nut]

3 hours ago, addage said:

Playing 20 snaps, he earned his lowest PFF grade of the season at 27.4.

Good to go out strong, on top

[undertow]

What's funny is I'm starting to see people mock the Jets taking a safety top 10 now like that makes any sense. lol

[thebuzzardman]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

+1000 for any Kung Fu Hustle reference. 

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, Lith said:

Just think how miserable we would all be on this site if not for the Adams trade.  Watching the Seahawks struggle this year has probably been the most pleasure we have gotten on a consistent basis this year.  Still think a healthy Wilson will rally them to a few wins down the stretch, especially with them heading into Houston this week.

Go Texans!!!

At least with Seattle we have a team we can "root for" and watch who seem to be coming through by losing most weeks.  

Go Hawks (lose)!!

[Lith]

21 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

At least with Seattle we have a team we can "root for" and watch who seem to be coming through by losing most weeks.  

Go Hawks (lose)!!

Its also a nice change to be able to root for a high draft pick without rooting against our players.  At some point, this young Jets team is going to need to learn how to win games, I would like to see them start to do it this month.  And if Seattle keeps losing, maybe we can still maintain a top 5 pick.

[jago]

3 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Personally I was wondering why he literally stopped tackling earlier in the season. Bunch of Ole’ plays. He was obviously hurt this entire season and trying to play through it. 

no. no. say it aint so. his dogging has been my favorite theme this season.