Copernicus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Wilson looks awful, but lets be honest, this entire franchise is atrocious. This coaching staff is horrid, absolutely horrid. Lack of talent everywhere. As much as ZW doesn't look anything like a FQB, Saleh and his staff look equally awful Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars coaching staff , and Justin Fields and the Bears coaching staff say hello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Copernicus said: Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars coaching staff , and Justin Fields and the Bears coaching staff say hello Both of those coaching staffs are likely out at the end of the season. Should we do the same? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, GangGreened said: Both of those coaching staffs are likely out at the end of the season. Should we do the same? I don't see how you don't get rid of this coaching staff. There isnt one positive thing I have seen from them that makes me think they have any hope of being good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, freestater said: Excuse me, but Piniero was fantastic. Even the kicks he made made me depressed haha, they were weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, GangGreened said: Both of those coaching staffs are likely out at the end of the season. Should we do the same? What would be the point? Woody and Chris seem willing to saw their own balls off with a butter knife before they would ever hire a proven HC/GM. So we fire Saleh and Douglas and replace them with who? Tennessee’s OC and Cleveland’s director of player personnel? The dipsh*t Johnson boys should’ve opened up their purses and threw the bank at Harbaugh before he reupped in Ann Arbor like many of us wanted. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: Even the kicks he made made me depressed haha, they were weak. He had a couple go through the uprights. Not gonna lie... I did shots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: The general acceptance of losing is what is the scariest part. Losing should never be part of the plan. All you're doing is building a culture that losses are acceptable. I have never seen this level of delusion in a fanbase in my life...it's like some are being patient and positive in order to come off as more intelligent. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, undertow said: I have never seen this level of delusion in a fanbase in my life...it's like some are being patient and positive in order to come off as more intelligent. I've never seen a love affair with a front office who hasnt accomplished anything like this before. This fan base wanted idzik drawn and quartered after 2 seasons. But you got people accepting next season as a lost season already as acceptable. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Double digit losses in a season appears to be our mainstay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post CanadienJetsFan Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Fantasy Island said: Thank you for being honest. I just wish our whole fanbase and ownership can take off the green glasses and get an eye full of reality. Here’s the reality: Rookie head coach + rookie OC+ rookie DC & rookie QB = a lot of ugly football . Oh let’s also add having the youngest starting roster in the NFL to the pile. I won’t add injuries to the list of excuses because all teams get them but one can argue that when you have so little roster depth like the Jets, the injuries just magnify all other issues. All you guys asking for heads to roll, what did you REALLY expect this season? 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: sadly, probably only way this gets better is if Johnsons get out Yes. I lived in Tampa Bay for many years and the Bucs sucked chronically until Malcolm Glaser assumed ownership succeeding Hugh Culverhouse. It makes a difference. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Copernicus said: Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars coaching staff , and Justin Fields and the Bears coaching staff say hello So your defense of Wilson is that other QBs look like crap? With defenders like you, Zach doesn’t need critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Here’s the reality: Rookie head coach + rookie OC+ rookie DC & rookie QB = a lot of ugly football . Oh let’s also add having the youngest starting roster in the NFL to the pile. I won’t add injuries to the list of excuses because all teams get them but one can argue that when you have so little roster depth like the Jets, the injuries just magnify all other issues. All you guys asking for heads to roll, what did you REALLY expect this season? Only sensible post in this disaster of a thread 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, DLJ said: Only sensible post in this disaster of a thread Thank God for this site so we can all vent virtually! thanks @Maxman 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Here’s the reality: Rookie head coach + rookie OC+ rookie DC & rookie QB = a lot of ugly football . Oh let’s also add having the youngest starting roster in the NFL to the pile. I won’t add injuries to the list of excuses because all teams get them but one can argue that when you have so little roster depth like the Jets, the injuries just magnify all other issues. All you guys asking for heads to roll, what did you REALLY expect this season? How could fans POSSIBLY expect ever having a team isnt awful. We must be taking crazy pills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Look... We are, by far, the youngest team in the NFL We are, by far, the most injured team in the NFL With that said.... JD's first draft was a complete disaster, really hinders the growth JD's free agent signings have been bad ZW looked awful today Holes on this roster everywhere But... We have the most cap space in the NFL We'll have 4 picks in the top 40 (5 in the 65) Zach has only played 8 games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 We certainly are not guaranteed to ever be a winner, but we have a right to be entertained. Jets football has been outright unwatchable for 5 straight years. Not just bad football, literally nothing to feel good about. It’s really awful and honestly I just don’t vest myself emotionally the way I used to. I’ve been through the worst of the 80’d and 90’s, this feels so much worse. Awful uniforms, awful stadium, awful management, awful team, awful drafts… literally nothing about this team is good right nowSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 The Jets cornerbacks have a combined ZERO interceptions on the season. Truly remarkable. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The Jets cornerbacks have a combined ZERO interceptions on the season. Truly remarkable. That’s almost unfathomable to me especially when you remember how much zone they play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, slimjasi said: That’s almost unfathomable to me especially when you remember how much zone they play Two interceptions by defensive linemen as well. The Jets secondary has two. Neasman (who??) on a tipped pass and Davis had one on Tua on an overthrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The Jets cornerbacks have a combined ZERO interceptions on the season. Truly remarkable. The defense as a whole is as bad as I think I have ever seen a defense be in the NFL, but yeah, the secondary is a special level of awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 There was way too much successful mass hypnosis going from the front office into the season. Cool Aid central. The talent level on the back end of the defense was and is a joke. We played too many rookies. Yes rookies need experience but moreover teams needs experienced dept players. Parcells always talked about how 'rookies will loose you games' when he wasn't harping on about the need for those mid tier veterans (blue collar/lunch pail/ blah blah). This team looses its mojo too easily, there is a lack of leadership from coaching down through he roster itself. The offense played like a bunch of depressed love sick teenagers out there. I was concerned about Zack Wilson's durability before the draft but it's not all on the kid, despite everything I think he has 'it'. He should have sat this year but he's nearly through a sh*t storm of a year. The problem is the multitude of problems, roster depth, leadership, game preparation and overall talent level. Injuries happen but the fall off in talent on this paper thin roster is precipitous. Joe Douglas has to do better with roster depth. One or two big tickets free agents will not fix this. The defense is a colossal failure, Zach Wilson, the oline and wide receivers will be better in year two, if they make it through this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers1 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I am beginning to believe that this is worse then the Kotite era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 For some reason, today's "performance" got to me more than other losses. Just becoming almost unbearable. I wish the players felt half the angst and embarrassment as us fans. This season seems to be particularly unwatchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetluv58 said: Yes. I lived in Tampa Bay for many years and the Bucs sucked chronically until Malcolm Glaser assumed ownership succeeding Hugh Culverhouse. It makes a difference. Didn't much of the Tampa misery of that era tie in with Culverhouse being a total Miser? The Johnsons will NEVER pay a real HC. That's now apparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 12 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Here’s the reality: Rookie head coach + rookie OC+ rookie DC & rookie QB = a lot of ugly football . Oh let’s also add having the youngest starting roster in the NFL to the pile. I won’t add injuries to the list of excuses because all teams get them but one can argue that when you have so little roster depth like the Jets, the injuries just magnify all other issues. All you guys asking for heads to roll, what did you REALLY expect this season? You say this like it's an excuse and not another failing of the organisation. Douglas chose to combine a young staff with a young roster. There are always veterans available. It has turned to sh*t and it's just another year where the Jets aren't competitive. People expected progress. If Wilson is as bad as he looks then we've gone backwards. Douglas has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 12 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Rookie head coach + rookie OC+ rookie DC & rookie QB = a lot of ugly football . Oh let’s also add having the youngest starting roster in the NFL to the pile. Maybe this wasn’t the right way to go, with rookies everywhere and youth all around. Means that all have to work out for us to improve, and that is low odds. Some proven pieces might have been good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Can we ban the following phrase: "Thank you Joe Douglas, thank you"? Even better, shut up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 that had to be the worst loss this season. nothing went right. as someone said a long time before, when berrios is the most effective receiver then there's a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 There was one part of the sequence before the half that really just had me shaking my head in wonder / despair. We're trailing 10-3. Have the ball. We know NO start the 2nd half with possession. Really need a score - ideally a TD, but at least a FG - to have a bit of momentum. 1st and 10 at the NYJ 36. Still have 3 TO's, just had the 2 minute warning. Plenty time to communicate at least 2, maybe 3, plays to make the best use of the time left. We run it ... for 1 yard. 1 measly yard. Then we huddle up. Slowly. We break the huddle. Slowly. 30 seconds run off the clock. For one yard. We end up with one unused time out at half time. And a FG that we were fortunate to come away with. Don't we run two minute drills? Don't we practice them? Don't we call more than one play at the 2 minute warning? Don't we want to score? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 13 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: I don't see how you don't get rid of this coaching staff. There isnt one positive thing I have seen from them that makes me think they have any hope of being good. I honestly think LaFleur has done a nice Job....The OL learned the system and looks a lot better. Running game really picked up. He adapted after the bye week, play calling changed and when he's gotten quality QB play the offense looks good. And he's been hindered by an a ridiculous amount of injuries...I really like LaFleur. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: The night is always darkest before the dawn. Unless the apocalypse is scheduled for sunrise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Biggs said: There’s a plan and Douglas got offset language. I waited outside metlife yesterday to verbally abuse everyone. If you had kids with you got a pass. Ulbirch looked me in the eyes. Dude to his credit looked sad af Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bronx said: Can we ban the following phrase: "Thank you Joe Douglas, thank you"? Even better, shut up! Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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