undertow Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 If people got joy out of the win that's cool I think draft order is meaningless 99 percent of the time but pretending anything meaningful was accomplished is delusional. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouserJet Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I said a few weeks back we need to stop worrying about the draft and start getting these guys to know what winning feels like. But not like that, ugh, was such a poor performance and we nearly lost against what I’d say is the worst side in the league. We suck. Depressing again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: So tell me the benefit of the jags not scoring on that last drive to beat us? What does this win do for us long term? Right now it is giving Zach confidence he can win games by playing under control and not trying to throw the ball 60 yards in the air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: "Bro", the Jets have missed the playoffs for 11 straight years (tied for the longest stretch in franchise history). Congrats on today's momentous victory! That is all. Bro….Broooooo. You suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: "Bro", the Jets have missed the playoffs for 11 straight years (tied for the longest stretch in franchise history). Congrats on today's momentous victory! That is all. I really don’t want to get into this, i didn’t care if they won or lost today just wanna see improvement but I’m not gonna come cry about a win on a message board, to respond to your mathematically eliminated little cute comment, so if the Jets weren’t “mathematically eliminated” but the odds were slim to make the playoffs, which in turn means you aren’t winning the SB, are we rooting for wins or losses? When do we know what “smart fans” are ready to root for. What if we are mathematically in it but 3 of our wins were on fluke plays then what do we root for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 42 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: I want a receiver/playmakers anyway. Im okay with dropping a few spots. A good wide out in the NFL should NEVER drop a pass!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: And what guarantee is there Hutch works out. Everyone thought Wadsworth was a can't miss prospect. Pass rusher probably has one of the highest bust rates of any position. Yep, edge rushers are hard to project. And look at last year. Look how bummed everyone was over losing out on Lawrence. How do we know we missed out on anything? As of today - do we know that we missed out on the better QB? I don’t. The draft is pure guess work and we are getting a top 4 pick, regardless, unless people are worried about beating Tampa or the Bills. Lol. If you want to see the Jets build something here, you want to see players like Wilson and Carter have some success and win some games. Maybe they can build some confidence for next year? The Jets were never replacing Zach Wilson after 10 games, so we might as well hope he develops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, undertow said: If people got joy out of the win that's cool I think draft order is meaningless 99 percent of the time but pretending anything meaningful was accomplished is delusional. That win got me two free shots of jameson at the bar. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Congrats on the win today. This is a real franchise changer! **** THIS **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Zach played a great game. That’s all that matters. Jax scoring on that last possession wouldn’t have changed that. The defense is still the one worst of all time tho Have you ever played organized sports? I know when I did and I played really well and we still lost, that was pretty hard to swallow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: I really don’t want to get into this, i didn’t care if they won or lost today just wanna see improvement but I’m not gonna come cry about a win on a message board, to respond to your mathematically eliminated little cute comment, so if the Jets weren’t “mathematically eliminated” but the odds were slim to make the playoffs, which in turn means you aren’t winning the SB, are we rooting for wins or losses? When do we know what “smart fans” are ready to root for. What if we are mathematically in it but 3 of our wins were on fluke plays then what do we root for? Is that the position we're in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtnelson Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Mike White would have lost this game for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Is that the position we're in? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Yep, edge rushers are hard to project. And look at last year. Look how bummed everyone was over losing out on Lawrence. How do we know we missed out on anything? As of today - do we know that we missed out on the better QB? I don’t. The draft is pure guess work and we are getting a top 4 pick, regardless, unless people are worried about beating Tampa or the Bills. Lol. If you want to see the Jets build something here, you want to see players like Wilson and Carter have some success and win some games. Maybe they can build some confidence for next year? The Jets were never replacing Zach Wilson after 10 games, so we might as well hope he develops. I’m sorry. Confidence for next year is the stupidest thing fans say. Nothing carries over lol. These wins do absolutely nothing. You hope guys play well and don’t get hurt. Just get to the off-season healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: I love Douglas and Zach! I would also have loved Aidan Hutchinson!!! Hey listen up pal Aidan Hutchinson ******* sucks so feel free to enjoy this Jets victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Anthony Jet said: Exactly Exactly as in the point you just made was completely irrelevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, freestater said: That win got me two free shots of jameson at the bar. I stand corrected. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: I’m sorry. Confidence for next year is the stupidest thing fans say. Nothing carries over lol. These wins do absolutely nothing. You hope guys play well and don’t get hurt. Just get to the off-season healthy. I don’t know. I played enough team sports in high school and college to know that wins can give young players confidence. Not guaranteed to happen, but they can. we can agree to disagree here. Experience during your rookie year is potentially valuable. Depends what the players do with it. Some guys improve and grow and others make the same mistakes after 40 starts in the league. There are no absolutes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Scoop24 said: I want a receiver/playmakers anyway. Im okay with dropping a few spots. WR and Edge in R1. Wilson/Williams at WR and Karlaftis/Ojabo at Edge. At least as of now, it seems like a possibilitiy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: I’m sorry. Confidence for next year is the stupidest thing fans say. Nothing carries over lol. These wins do absolutely nothing. You hope guys play well and don’t get hurt. Just get to the off-season healthy. Maybe not confidence, but understanding how to win and what it takes. It’s critical for young players especially to have their hard work pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Exactly as in the point you just made was completely irrelevant? Again, bro. You asked me if I knew what mathematically eliminated meant. So said question you are calling irrelevant was directly correlated to mathematically eliminated, the same term you asked me if I understood. To make this easier and quicker let’s just stick with the original post. Bro, you suck, that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augustiniak Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Lith said: WR and Edge in R1. Wilson/Williams at WR and Karlaftis/Ojabo at Edge. At least as of now, it seems like a possibilitiy. yes. Wr and edge are the two biggest needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PS17 said: Dump It was more important for Zack to feel good after a win he played well in than get a top pass rusher that will probably be hurt for much of his rookie year like J. Clowney was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: Again, bro. You asked me if I knew what mathematically eliminated meant. So said question you are calling irrelevant was directly correlated to mathematically eliminated, the same term you asked me if I understood. To make this easier and quicker let’s just stick with the original post. Bro, you suck, that is all The ideal game would've been Zach really did play great but we still lost. That would've improved our draft position plus hopefully have helped Zach going forward. Instead we won with Zach's legs and a kick return. Is this going to be the formula going forward? We beat one of the few teams in the NFL worse than us and hurt our draft position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: The ideal game would've been Zach really did play great but we still lost. That would've improved our draft position plus hopefully have helped Zach going forward. Instead we won with Zach's legs and a kick return. Is this going to be the formula going forward? We beat one of the few teams in the NFL worse than us and hurt our draft position. Ok. This sucks cause I have to agree with all of this. You are right kind sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: Douglas, zach and saleh haters in their glory. If we lost, it would have been "We cant even beat Jax". We won so its this terrible thread. Enjoy your day miserable jet fans! This guy has that @SAR I resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Scoop24 said: I want a receiver/playmakers anyway. Im okay with dropping a few spots. I think getting help for the worst defense in the NFL should be the priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I hammered Jets ML today. Quintessential meaningless Jet win that screws up their draft position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, RevisIsland610 said: Can't wait when Hutchinson and Thibodeaux are causing havoc on the field and we draft a safety. We will always have that electrifying win against the equally horrible Jags though. That will really help next year. Some of you guys just don't get it. Guys, you who feel this way just don’t get it. What do you want the team to do, intentionally lose by trying to lose?. This is their job and nobody would risk their livelihood for what others expect helps you down the line with a better draft pick. Be serious now. Geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: The ideal game would've been Zach really did play great but we still lost. That would've improved our draft position plus hopefully have helped Zach going forward. Instead we won with Zach's legs and a kick return. Is this going to be the formula going forward? We beat one of the few teams in the NFL worse than us and hurt our draft position. Why is this so hard a concept for so many to grasp? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: I think getting help for the worst defense in the NFL should be the priority. At this point we are going to have to build the O to do what you saw today. Run the ball and have Zack make plays and out score the other team. Because this D is not going to stop trams much for a while regardless of adding a pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: Ok. This sucks cause I have to agree with all of this. You are right kind sir I think you misunderstand me anyway. I absolutely want this team to be good. Like everyone else, I'm just so sick of missing the playoffs and being at the bottom-of-the-barrel every year that I'll root for anything that I think will give us an advantage (like an improved draft pick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Great win for the team today. December wins leads to September wins. Who would feel good about our 2022 chances if we can't even beat Jacksonville? Ans: No one. I get the draft and all that, but I'd rather be a Jets fan picking 4th than a Lions fan picking 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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