So, Omicron pretty much sucks

[The Crusher]

13 minutes ago, Stark said:

Poppy Crush!.... nice pic

 

Have you already told him the treasured stories of "Uncle Chuck & The Gentlemans Club" ..... lol. 

 

 

I assume Baby Crusher will eventually do that. The associated trauma from his point of view will reach the younger generation more succinctly.

[Jet Nut]

2 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Damn, I couldn’t say it better myself. 

But to be fair you were busy eating small children 

[jamesr]

12 hours ago, Peace Frog said:

Oh the flu shot. One of my partners got the shot then got the flu (not Covid) and was laid up for a week. 

Doctors told her the flu shot does not work this year. 

But get it…you know…anyway.

SCIENCE!!

Flu vaccines are as much a factor of human input as anything else.

Flu comes in so many strains. Each year's vaccine is produced based on what variants are expected to be circulating that year - there's no "one size fits all". The better the prediction, the better the vaccine will work overall, but if you guess wrong it's not going to be a lot of help. Some years here in the UK the effectiveness is estimated about 40-50% (that is to say, it prevented about 40-50% of the cases that would have happened without a vaccine). But one year recently it was only about 15% efficacy. It wasn't that the vaccine didn't work in and of itself, it was just the wrong one for what turned out to be doing the rounds that year.

https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/inactivated-flu-vaccine

With Covid we only really have "Version 1.0" vaccines so far ... it'll be more effective against the initial variants, which is why this latest Omicron variant is causing so much alarm right now. I'd guess that over time things will become similar to the situation with flu ... many variants, many vaccine options, and they try to match the annual / seasonal vaccine to the expected variant. And as it becomes more "business as usual" people will make their own decisions based on their own circumstances and beliefs. 

 

[jamesr]

Hope everyone who is suffering from this thing feels better soon ... I'm on day 5 and doing a lot better but still seriously low on energy.  Can't remember the last time anything had me ill for this time, but grateful it's been mild / moderate at worst. I know that's not been the case for everyone.

Hardest part was of it all was having my son come down with it too, fortunately he has the energy of youth and has got through it better than I have. He's also quite pleased that it'll likely delay his return to school next week.  

Here's to hoping everyone stays well and that maybe the Jets can pull off one of those meaningless December victories on Sunday to cheer us up a bit.  

[Bronx]

17 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Sore throat, cough, terrible body aches, tired, but the aches make sleep difficult. No real fever but woke up this morning drenched in sweat. Spent the last 2 days in bed. What a way to end a terrible year. ? 

 

But I'm fine with finally getting the Corona Light instead of full-blown Covid. 

It is spreading like a wild fire where I live. Best regards.

[playtowinthegame]

29 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

But to be fair you were busy eating small children 

Glad to see you're yourself. Lol

[Icer]

I'm waiting for the results of my PCR test to come back. Have pretty much all the symptoms, and had luckily avoided getting any kind of illness since the pandemic started til now. Think I picked it up at a funeral I went to. Sucks, but doesn't seem too bad at least.

[Jet Nut]

17 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Sore throat, cough, terrible body aches, tired, but the aches make sleep difficult. No real fever but woke up this morning drenched in sweat. Spent the last 2 days in bed. What a way to end a terrible year. ? 

 

But I'm fine with finally getting the Corona Light instead of full-blown Covid. 

Hang in there, hopefully the worst is behind you and you’re on the road to some sort of normalcy!

[Warfish]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Hang in there, hopefully the worst is behind you and you’re on the road to some sort of normalcy!

You stay safe too, mate. 

JN would be far less enjoyable without you driving me nuts on a regular basis.

[DetroitRed]

7 minutes ago, Icer said:

I'm waiting for the results of my PCR test to come back. Have pretty much all the symptoms, and had luckily avoided getting any kind of illness since the pandemic started til now. Think I picked it up at a funeral I went to. Sucks, but doesn't seem too bad at least.

I was dead sure I had it, took a PCR and I was negative 

[Sonny Werblin]

Looking at the global havoc that Covid has caused, I wonder if it is really worthwhile searching the solar system for "life". We can barely deal with the sh*t on this planet.

[Jet Nut]

9 minutes ago, Warfish said:

You stay safe too, mate. 

JN would be far less enjoyable without you driving me nuts on a regular basis.

Thanks my friend/foe,  if it brings any comfort to you,  you can drive me nuts too.  But would love to head out for libations one day!  
Stay safe!

[TuscanyTile2]

57 minutes ago, jamesr said:

With Covid we only really have "Version 1.0" vaccines so far ... it'll be more effective against the initial variants, which is why this latest Omicron variant is causing so much alarm right now. I'd guess that over time things will become similar to the situation with flu ... many variants, many vaccine options, and they try to match the annual / seasonal vaccine to the expected variant. And as it becomes more "business as usual" people will make their own decisions based on their own circumstances and beliefs. 

I just don't believe this is ever going to be allowed to happen.  Basically, once they get mandates and restrictions in place, the heat will only get turned up from there.  Unless you believe that governments love to give up power. 

[jamesr]

16 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I just don't believe this is ever going to be allowed to happen.  Basically, once they get mandates and restrictions in place, the heat will only get turned up from there.  Unless you believe that governments love to give up power. 

(Apologies in advance if this gets "political" - it's not intended to rile up anything, just presenting facts from over here in the UK  ).

I know US and UK are very different situations, but what has played out here in the UK has showed lately that things are turning.

Initially the restrictions that were brought in - lockdowns etc - were driven through by government without requiring a vote in parliament. National safety, required immediate action, and so on. But in short order it was agreed (forced, perhaps?) that all future government rules needed to be approved by a vote in parliament to ensure adequate debate, scrutiny etc. These could be retrospective so as to avoid delays.

The next times that further legal restrictions were required there was a growing voice of dissent from within the Conservative party (the ones in power) that the restrictions were not necessary, they were not "following the science" etc. This started out reasonably small but the longer it has gone on, and the more new mandates that have been passed, the bigger the revolt has been.

The last set of legal restrictions that were brought in - 15th Dec 21 - saw 99 members of the government's own party vote against them. That's out of a total of 361. The measures still passed comfortably because they got the backing of the main opposition party, but that size of a rebellion is hugely significant. Despite the worsening situation on Omicron, no new legal measures have been brought in - only "stronger advice" to stay safe, get boosted etc. Any new legal measures would need another vote - and the government can ill afford yet more damaging results like the last one.

So here at least, the political side of the situation is already saying "enough is enough" - and it's having an effect. There is already a lot of rumor circulating about a possible leadership challenge in the coming year to replace the prime minister (that is a thing over here, I guess it doesn't happen in the US however). And public support for restrictions has been waning as time has gone on.

The government may not want to give up power - but they don't always have the choice to hold onto it.

 

[TMAC]

Just tested positive.  I have been fully vaxxed with the booster.  The symptoms are like a middle of the road cold.  However, my grandchildren have it worse.  Hopefully will build up an immunity to this.  Good luck everyone.

[Flightattendant]

19 hours ago, Beerfish said:

They had to cancel the World junior hockey championships due to omicron.  It's going wild here in Alberta.  Sooner or later most people are going to get it, just a matter of the effects on a person.

Hope all who have had it or get it get well soon.

Another Canadian. HELLO MY BROTHER

[jamesr]

11 minutes ago, TMAC said:

Just tested positive.  I have been fully vaxxed with the booster.  The symptoms are like a middle of the road cold.  However, my grandchildren have it worse.  Hopefully will build up an immunity to this.  Good luck everyone.

Hope everyone feels better real soon. 

[Larz]

Just got the Pfizer booster. Have the week off. Settling in for side effect Saturday 

[Larz]

13 minutes ago, TMAC said:

Just tested positive.  I have been fully vaxxed with the booster.  The symptoms are like a middle of the road cold.  However, my grandchildren have it worse.  Hopefully will build up an immunity to this.  Good luck everyone.

Good luck. I’ve read that 2 vaccines plus a booster plus a natural infection more or less gives you super immunity. 

[playtowinthegame]

33 minutes ago, Larz said:

Just got the Pfizer booster. Have the week off. Settling in for side effect Saturday 

Tomorrow your arm you got the shot in should feel pretty sore. I know mine was, though overall I really didn't feel too bad after my Pfizer booster. I received mine on December 13th, and I was definitely not myself but was able complete all my task for the day without staying home. Drink lots of water. It definitely helps to stay hydrated. 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

15 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Yeah duh. More people are getting out because of the absurd restrictions for the winter though. The city flat out blows right now.
 

I believe NY lost the most amount of population overall this year too. 

And got it all back and then some. The vast majority of New Yorkers couldn't afford to move or rent a country house during the pandemic, so they didn't go anywhere. Right now, you can't find an affordable apartment to rent in Manhattan, and real estate is through the roof. Rumors of NYC's death have been greatly exaggerated, to paraphrase Mark Twain.

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

And got it all back and then some. The vast majority of New Yorkers couldn't afford to move or rent a country house during the pandemic, so they didn't go anywhere. Right now, you can't find an affordable apartment to rent in Manhattan, and real estate is through the roof. Rumors of NYC's death have been greatly exaggerated, to paraphrase Mark Twain.

NYC will always be busy. Too many people for too long have lived there. Upstate is vacating though. The state income tax is absurd if you’re living upstate. Why bother? I love NY and always will but the policies are asinine. 
 

If the guy who honeymooned in Cuba were to ever become governor then no one north of westchester will live anywhere but Albany.

[y2k8]

20 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Sore throat, cough, terrible body aches, tired, but the aches make sleep difficult. No real fever but woke up this morning drenched in sweat. Spent the last 2 days in bed. What a way to end a terrible year. ? 

 

But I'm fine with finally getting the Corona Light instead of full-blown Covid. 

It's very possible you have the Delta variant.

Did they confirm Omnicron?

[Long Island Leprechaun]

17 hours ago, Matt39 said:

I agree. But the strains seem unpredictable. If they keep the symptoms at a minimum I’m fine with getting the shot. I never used to get the flu shot but I probably should have been doing it. At this point the shots are readily available so if you want it great if not no worries. What’s going on in NY though isn’t sustainable. People have legit gone cuckoo. You used to just laugh off the dude in the neck brace in Yonkers and now you have people diving into bushes outside when you walk by the without a mask on. People need to relax. I don’t miss living there but I miss visiting the city.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-st-louis-missouri-ba73ddfff6449515b335a4386c43ab22

Looks like that NY neurosis is infectious, or at least folie a deux. Of course, none of us hold a candle to the common sense and intelligence of the average Floridian. 

[DJF71]

All my vaccinated friends have it or have had it. Many of the kids I coach have as well.

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-st-louis-missouri-ba73ddfff6449515b335a4386c43ab22

Looks like that NY neurosis is infectious, or at least folie a deux. Of course, none of us hold a candle to the common sense and intelligence of the average Floridian. 

St Louis still exists? 

[DJF71]

3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I just don't believe this is ever going to be allowed to happen.  Basically, once they get mandates and restrictions in place, the heat will only get turned up from there.  Unless you believe that governments love to give up power. 

Live in a place that believes in freedom.  

[Jet_Engine1]

24 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-st-louis-missouri-ba73ddfff6449515b335a4386c43ab22

Looks like that NY neurosis is infectious, or at least folie a deux. Of course, none of us hold a candle to the common sense and intelligence of the average Floridian. 

Florida "shut down" for about 2 weeks, and contrary to the nonsense you've heard on your favorite cable news provider, has done as well or better than pretty much everywhere else. So, I guess smart is as smart does?

 

But hey, the New York Assembly is apparently going to vote on a Bill in January 5th that will allow the state to "detain anyone deemed to be a public hazard....place them in a medical or other facility, and forcibly vaccinate persons". All against the Constitution and the Nuremberg Code.

 

So you got that to look forward to!!

 

Super smart!

[Beerfish]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

Just got the Pfizer booster. Have the week off. Settling in for side effect Saturday 

I had the pfizer booster about 3 weeks ago.  Just had a sore arm for about a day this time not much else. 

[Maxman]

20 hours ago, rangerous said:

i guess you never had the flu.  same thing.  but, in spite of all the negativity coming from fauci, you're alive and most likely didn't have to go to a hospital or er.

Wow way to make something political. Garbage post.

[munchmemory]

8 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Florida "shut down" for about 2 weeks, and contrary to the nonsense you've heard on your favorite cable news provider, has done as well or better than pretty much everywhere else. So, I guess smart is as smart does?

 

But hey, the New York Assembly is apparently going to vote on a Bill in January 5th that will allow the state to "detain anyone deemed to be a public hazard....place them in a medical or other facility, and forcibly vaccinate persons". All against the Constitution and the Nuremberg Code.

 

So you got that to look forward to!!

 

Super smart!

As of today, Florida ranks third in the U.S. for number of cases (4,059,487) and deaths (62,390).   CA is number one, Texas in second place, and NY in fourth.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[undertow]

4 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Wow way to make something political. Garbage post.

Is there a reason this thread is in the Jets football section?  Asking for a friend.

[ID.]

21 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Sore throat, cough, terrible body aches, tired, but the aches make sleep difficult. No real fever but woke up this morning drenched in sweat. Spent the last 2 days in bed. What a way to end a terrible year. ? 

 

But I'm fine with finally getting the Corona Light instead of full-blown Covid. 

I’ve had pretty much the same symptoms, with the added bonus of diarrhea.  Started on 12/23 with a stomach bug, then the omicron symptoms stared on Monday 

[HawkeyeJet]

18 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Florida "shut down" for about 2 weeks, and contrary to the nonsense you've heard on your favorite cable news provider, has done as well or better than pretty much everywhere else. So, I guess smart is as smart does?

 

But hey, the New York Assembly is apparently going to vote on a Bill in January 5th that will allow the state to "detain anyone deemed to be a public hazard....place them in a medical or other facility, and forcibly vaccinate persons". All against the Constitution and the Nuremberg Code.

 

So you got that to look forward to!!

 

Super smart!

Changed my mind.  Asked a question but it’s not important.  I hope you are on the mend soon.

[Maxman]

18 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Its actually sad, really sad. People are going to look back and realize they lost 10 years of their life they cant get back so some politicians can get elected

 

Please stop with the politics. No need for it.