Matt39 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, y2k8 said: And by trappings, do you mean cheeseburgers? I actually think his eating is like 4 or 5 on the list of issues. He’s on the verge of going full John Martin so letting him go now would be in the teams best interest, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, Rhg1084 said: Conklin went to the Browns because he wanted no part of the NY Metro area. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, Barkus said: Just like when he was the only one saying mac was going to be fired? Really? Not the way I remember it. Everyone knew he was gone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Stop. GM who didn’t vet his first two picks gets burned by headcases who fell for the trappings of the game. Becton failed a drug test before the combine and we still drafted him. Saleh has to coach 53 guys, not just the ones he wants. I’d buy the argument that Becton was simply a mush if Becton didn’t play well last year. Saleh has never been a head coach anywhere at any point in his life until now. This is what that looks like. We’re going to be talking about dumping Quinnen Williams this time next year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 26 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: 4,000 members on this board were saying that on a daily basis! That type of drafting, coupled with on-field performance, would have gotten another GM fired a year or two earlier. He's talking about in 2019 after he'd run the offseason. He reported Mac was about to be fired, which was out there at the time. And then it happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Saleh has to coach 53 guys, not just the ones he wants. I’d buy the argument that Becton was simply a mush if Becton didn’t play well last year. Saleh has never been a head coach anywhere at any point in his life until now. This is what that looks like. We’re going to be talking about dumping Quinnen Williams this time next year. I don’t think he played well last year. Taking himself out of games the way he did as a pro LT was bizarre 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 36 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: This report is coming from Pauline this which needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He is notoriously always wrong when it comes to the Jets Pretty sure he knew Mac was going to be fired before anyone. Somebody, Fact check me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: **If true** Lazy players regardless of talent destroy morale. Cut bait if he isn’t ready to bring it in camp and during 2022 season. 39 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Poor coaching staff can’t get their first round tackle back on the field and just wants to cut bait with anyone who is mean to them. Surely, this trait will work out for them long-term. 12 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Fant should be the LT going into camp. Becton either has to beat him out, or get used to playing RT. Can't bench Fant, who has performed very well. "ITS not what you preach, what you tolerate becomes the new standard. If you tolerate poor performance, poor performance becomes the new standard". -Jocko Willink, Extreme Ownership 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, DetroitRed said: Pretty sure he knew Mac was going to be fired before anyone. Somebody, Fact check me He did, and when he reported it, the usual subjects sh*t on Tony....until Mac got fired 3 hours later. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I actually think his eating is like 4 or 5 on the list of issues. He’s on the verge of going full John Martin so letting him go now would be in the teams best interest, IMO. IDK. He seems lazy and likes to eat. I don't get the sense that he is big timing, but who knows? I remember when he was drafted, his father jumped up first and I thought that was MB. His father weighs like 600 lbs, and I was like "my god, we are screwed". I was mistaken and relieved, but perhaps that initial reaction was just a premonition of things to come. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I don’t think he played well last year. Taking himself out of games the way he did as a pro LT was bizarre He played like 700 snaps and PFF thought he was pretty good iirc. Is he a big, immature baby? Probably. But he’s a talented one that they have a lot invested in. If I’m Douglas, I’m telling Saleh to stop being a bitch and make it work. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Besides that That’s a pretty huge story to be the only one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurntDice Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 “I’m hearing” I don’t believe a single thing any of these beat reporters say. This team has been a clamshell with information ever since JD was hired. They just create articles that will generate clicks, nothing more As @GREENBEAN has been saying #boycottthebeat 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, DetroitRed said: That’s a pretty huge story to be the only one I was being a smart guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: He played like 700 snaps and PFF thought he was pretty good iirc. Is he a big, immature baby? Probably. But he’s a talented one that they have a lot invested in. If I’m Douglas, I’m telling Saleh to stop being a bitch and make it work. You cant take yourself out of games with nicks as a pro lineman. I dont care how well you play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I was being a smart guy Guess that means I wasn’t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Is that it? This isn't the most convincing thing ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: This exactly. Why would coaches want to talk to this guy? He’s just throwing stuff against a wall with these rumors. It all depends on training camp anyway. Becton will have another chance to prove himself no matter what is said now. He’s young with potential and on a rookie deal with time before having to pick up any options so he’s cheap. He’s also coming off an injury so without much trade value. We just have to be patient and see how he does next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: You cant take yourself out of games with nicks as a pro lineman. I dont care how well you play. I mean, you said it yourself—Saleh ran a soft camp and he’s been a weak fish in-season. A guy like Becton—who clearly needs to be pushed—is going to feast on a mush like that. Say what we want about Becton being soft, but this is a bad harbinger for what’s to come with this staff. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, y2k8 said: IDK. He seems lazy and likes to eat. I don't get the sense that he is big timing, but who knows? I remember when he was drafted, his father jumped up first and I thought that was MB. His father weighs like 600 lbs, and I was like "my god, we are screwed". I was mistaken and relieved, but perhaps that initial reaction was just a premonition of things to come. The league has dealt with talented dudes who like to eat forever. It's more than that, IMO. The tapping out of games and being over dramatic is not a starting LT in the NFL. Parcells could always deal with the guys who put on weight in the offseason. Guys who tapped out of games would be off the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, undertow said: I feel like Douglas just drafted talent in the 2020 draft and threw background checks and interviews out the window...maybe Covid had something to do with limited info but he drafted like a fan who watches Youtube clips and reads PFF. JD had Macc's staff in place when he made the 2020 picks. Macc probably did use Youtube. Not excusing a poor draft, he should have done better. But 2021 looks solid. If 2022 comes in with similar results, you should discount the 2020 draft. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, addage said: JD had Macc's staff in place when he made the 2020 picks. Macc probably did use Youtube. Not excusing a poor draft, he should have done better. But 2021 looks solid. If 2022 comes in with similar results, you should discount the 2020 draft. Something was definitely off about the philosophy in 2020.....if he nails the upcoming draft and Wilson isn't a bust I'll throw 2020 out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, undertow said: I feel like Douglas just drafted talent in the 2020 draft and threw background checks and interviews out the window...maybe Covid had something to do with limited info but he drafted like a fan who watches Youtube clips and reads PFF. He interviewed Mims twice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Jets have no choice to move him to RT. Draft Neal if he’s there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barkus Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Really? Not the way I remember it. Everyone knew he was gone. Don’t be disingenuous. It was considered a shock that mac was fired right after the draft. Anything else is revisionist history. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: He interviewed Mims twice though. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, DetroitRed said: Jets have no choice to move him to RT. Draft Neal if he’s there Why not just re-sign Moses and lock-up Fant long term? Becton can ride the bench or be moved for a draft pick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I'd love to think this was BS. But... It kinda feels right, doesn't it? I'm a Becton defender and want to see what he does in 2022 but this isn't great. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 no more "big ticket" now it's: "big piece of sh*t" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: He did, and when he reported it, the usual subjects sh*t on Tony....until Mac got fired 3 hours later. @Pac 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Pretty sure he knew Mac was going to be fired before anyone. Somebody, Fact check me Mac getting fired was such a shocker! The only story that was a surprise was that he wasn't fired before the 2019 offseason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He played like 700 snaps and PFF thought he was pretty good iirc. Is he a big, immature baby? Probably. But he’s a talented one that they have a lot invested in. If I’m Douglas, I’m telling Saleh to stop being a bitch and make it work. "Alright, Mekhi! This is the NFL, and you're a big part of our plan moving forward. We have a conditioning plan for you, the health and welfare staff have prepared a nutrition plan for you to optimize your performance! We're going to invest as much time and resources into helping you achieve as much greatness as possible, and we want you to be our 15 year Left Tackle, a Pro Bowler, and maybe a Hall of Fame player! What do you say! You ready??!" "Yeah, shiiit, man. I'm HONGRY. Lemme grab some Bell, and then I gotta go see the trainer again. My, uh, feet hurt today and I'm honestly a bit hung over. Lemme see if I feel better next week. But, yeah, uh, thanks coach! It's gonna be great!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He played like 700 snaps and PFF thought he was pretty good iirc. Is he a big, immature baby? Probably. But he’s a talented one that they have a lot invested in. If I’m Douglas, I’m telling Saleh to stop being a bitch and make it work. JD and Saleh are joined at the hip. Media types love controversy. No evidence of it here. Whatever else Saleh is, he's not stupid. He will do everything he can to get Becton ready for 2022. But, ala Mims, he has shown he will not allow talent to be a substitute for performance in practice and games. I expect we will see the same thing with Becton. But having said that, he will do everything he can to convince Becton to "do the right thing". Get in shape, lose the weight, be ready for OTA's, etc. Maybe, JD brings back Moses and LDT, drafts an OG on day 2. Has the OL set and Becton competes for playing time. That would be consistent with Saleh's position as HC. And finally, everyone needs to take a deep breath. A lot of players go through some pretty deep troughs in their careers but still go on to be excellent. We don't know what Becton will choose. I think we are right to worry, but not to conclude either way. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, docdhc said: Why would coaches want to talk to this guy? He’s just throwing stuff against a wal Pauline’s deal has always been that he hangs around these guys and they know him from the senior bowl and whatnot. Him and Cimini are the only two “reporters” who actually spend time at the facility trying to cultivate relationships. This is CYA season in the NFL, where scouts and assistants try to save their jobs and reputations. If you wanted to air out a grievance in public, you can either talk to Cimini or Pauline. It used to be Mehta, but Mehta hung himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Erik Williams was a mammoth who struggled with his weight and then got in the game and played like crazed dog. If Becton were the toughest guy on the field you’d deal. You can’t take yourself out of games as a left tackle. Even more so when Ferguson was the last high profile LT Jets fans remember. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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