Big_Slick Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Origen said: So 'kick it and go for overtime' is the Ballsy move now? No. It's the smart move. Go up by 7 and trust the D or you trust your team to win in OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It’s a little weird that the jet sweep is our most effective play. It’s a little weird because you have home field and you’re putting the game on the rookie quarterback that’s playing against the greatest comeback guy in any sport probably ever. I’m all for ballsy sh*t when you have nothing to lose but that win would have been awesome and it’s really sad to see Saleh not understand just exactly who he was trying that against. Like yeah let’s tug on Jordan’s cape. Ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 No one will remember the 4th down play call come draft day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, jamesr said: What about when Brady marches down the field and scores 8? I prefer my HC to have a winners mentality and not be afraid to trust his team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Bart Scott whose never liked Zach attacking him for not going to Berrios saying he has a character flaw. He wants to be the hero over winning a game. Look I didn’t like the decision but what is Bart talking about. He’s a dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Jets were killing them on the edges all day. Makes no sense If you ask me, it felt like we threw the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausman Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 To clarify, it is on the coaching staff. They used a play that’s usually used in 4th and 1 situations only. There’s a QB option on that play — a sneak and a hand off. The coaches meant to take the option off — in essence, to modify the playbook there — and use the handoff only. Saleh is saying they “failed to communicate” that the sneak was not an option there. That’s obviously true. Wilson let his ego get in the way, IMO. Even if he never understood what the coaches intended, he made a selfish and brain dead decision. A spindly QB can’t get 2 yds period let alone against a top D like TBs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Ummmmm Wilson just verified what Saleh said and by the way, Saleh said the coaching staff takes full responsibility for the play call and that the Coaches have to do better! What Lying ??????? Come On Man! Wilson was just doing what he does because hes a good kid. Saleh should know better than to even hint that it may have been Zachs fault. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, BallinPB said: Start off. Bengals game this year easily more exciting and better game. Eh, personally, I'd rather see Zach Wilson grow some balls and show promise of being a franchise QB against Tom Brady rather than our backup QB have a fluke good game. But, that's one. Now give me 6-7 more. I'll wait. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: It’s a little weird because you have home field and you’re putting the game on the rookie quarterback that’s playing against the greatest comeback guy in any sport probably ever. I’m all for ballsy sh*t when you have nothing to lose but that win would have been awesome and it’s really sad to see Saleh not understand just exactly who he was trying that against. Like yeah let’s tug on Jordan’s cape. Ugh. I wonder how much of it was Saleh’s ego wanting his shot to stop Brady in the two minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Rangers9 said: Bart Scott whose never liked Zach attacking him for not going to Berrios saying he has a character flaw. He wants to be the hero over winning a game. Look I didn’t like the decision but what is Bart talking about. He’s a dumbass. Bart has reached a point where it seems he's grinding the axe on behalf of Rex. It's sad. I wish he was on the radio in Baltimore instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Integrity28 said: If you ask me, it felt like we threw the game. I don’t think our coaches are clever enough to throw a game 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, T0mShane said: I don’t think our coaches are clever enough to throw a game Subconsciously, I'm pretty sure we just watched it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: I prefer my HC to have a winners mentality and not be afraid to trust his team. But he trusted his team enough to go for it on 4th and 2 to win the game. Or should he not trust THAT part of the team? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Bart has reached a point where it seems he's grinding the axe on behalf of Rex. It's sad. I wish he was on the radio in Baltimore instead. Simple, don’t listen to him. Should never have left WFAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Zach said it’s on him That's what a leader does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Spoot-Face said: No matter how this ends, it's been a fun game guys! Nobody except @Alka and @92ShaunEllis92 thought this would be anywhere near competitive, let alone with the Jets leading for nearly the entire game. I appreciate that, but I honestly thought we would outright win the game. I hate playing the "if" game, but "if" Michael Carter the running back stayed healthy in the game, and "if" George Fant stayed healthy in the game, the Jets would have won. Both of these guys factored into my thoughts of why I thought the Jets would outright win the game. Of course, I should have factored in the game that the coaching staff would make a "boneheaded" decision like having Zach go for a QB sneak with 4th down and 2 entire yards to go up the middle in my decision making, but unfortunately I can't think of everything!!! I did say in my initial thread that Zach is playing more comfortable and I felt he would have a great game today, which I believe he did. Zach will continue to have ups and downs, but I think he is finally headed in the right direction, and I am hopeful that it will continue. I will say this now: As much as I felt that the Jets would win today, I do not have that same thought for next week against the Bills. All I really want to see next week is a competitive game, and I will be very satisfied. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: No. It's the smart move. Go up by 7 and trust the D or you trust your team to win in OT. I prefer my HC to have a winners mentality and not be afraid to trust his team. So going for the TD on 4th down and trying to go up by 11 is inferior? Wow. This is honestly the first time I have ever heard someone vociferously call for the 'kick and hope for OT' when ahead with a 4th and 2 inside the opponents 10 and they have no time outs and less than 2 minutes. Guess you had different coaching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Simple, don’t listen to him. Should never have left WFAN. I don't. Somehow though, his influence on our fans and the content here at JN persists... so weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Alka said: I appreciate that, but I honestly thought we would outright win the game. I hate playing the "if" game, but "if" Michael Carter the running back stayed healthy in the game, and "if" George Fant stayed healthy in the game, the Jets would have won. Both of these guys factored into my thoughts of why I thought the Jets would outright win the game. Of course, I should have factored in the game that the coaching staff would make a "boneheaded" decision like having Zach go for a QB sneak with 4th down and 2 entire yards to go up the middle in my decision making, but unfortunately I can't think of everything!!! I did say in my initial thread that Zach is playing more comfortable and I felt he would have a great game today, which I believe he did. Zach will continue to have ups and downs, but I think he is finally headed in the right direction, and I am hopeful that it will continue. I will say this now: As much as I felt that the Jets would win today, I do not have that same thought for next week against the Bills. All I really want to see next week is a competitive game, and I will be very satisfied. Imagine if we had Elijah Moore this game. Could've been a blowout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: I don't. Somehow though, his influence on our fans and the content here at JN persists... so weird. He knows how to play the NY market…can’t wait baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, ausman said: To clarify, it is on the coaching staff. They used a play that’s usually used in 4th and 1 situations only. There’s a QB option on that play — a sneak and a hand off. The coaches meant to take the option off — in essence, to modify the playbook there — and use the handoff only. Saleh is saying they “failed to communicate” that the sneak was not an option there. Yes. Rest was pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I wonder how much of it was Saleh’s ego wanting his shot to stop Brady in the two minute. Which would be great too. I love the going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, BroadwayBen said: I just threw my glass table at my 65 inch TV, shattering both of them. This team has humiliated my entire family. My wife and kids are in tears as 40+ guests clear out of my house. Just threw my jersey into the firepit. I can't do this anymore. Goodbye If this is true, it is not the team that humiliated your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Spoot-Face said: Imagine if we had Elijah Moore this game. Could've been a blowout! Imagine if Mims got chance to play…oh wait… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, CanadienJetsFan said: Imagine if Mims got chance to play…oh wait… hahaha @The Crusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: "You can't fire me, because I quit." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Look you can complain about the 4th and 2 and the decisions of LaFleur and Zach. But they lost the game on a terrible play by Riley with 15 seconds left in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I wonder how much of it was Saleh’s ego wanting his shot to stop Brady in the two minute. I honestly think it’s just more that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. This kicker bullsh*t seems to have created a whole lot of confusion for the team in general. The last two weeks have made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: I prefer my HC to have a winners mentality and not be afraid to trust his team. Well he was going for the game winning TD on 4th down..... WTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is an awful look all around. Come on, Bob. Get some media training. Unless they're using the rookie mistake excuse to cover for tanking the game to get a pass rusher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Look you can complain about the 4th and 2 and the decisions of LaFleur and Zach. But they lost the game on a terrible play by Riley with 15 seconds left in the game. The 4th and 2 play was terrible but the defense on that last play was atrocious. Typical painful Jets loss. They tease you as much as they possibly can. The good news is that the QB showed progress with a very limited roster and just insane injuries. And we maintained draft position. I really wanted the win and am frustrated, but I will take it, all things considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: If you ask me, it felt like we threw the game. Yep. Saleh needs a pass rusher. Winning this game prevents him from getting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, jamesr said: But he trusted his team enough to go for it on 4th and 2 to win the game. Or should he not trust THAT part of the team? We differ - I think going for in that situation was the wrong decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Origen said: So going for the TD on 4th down and trying to go up by 11 is inferior? Wow. This is honestly the first time I have ever heard someone vociferously call for the 'kick and hope for OT' when ahead with a 4th and 2 inside the opponents 10 and they have no time outs and less than 2 minutes. Guess you had different coaching! Yeah, winners not guys afraid to trust their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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