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33 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

It’s always been the footwork for me. He takes the snap, steps back, doesn’t even drop back, bounces twice in anticipation, his foot angle comes undone on the second bounce step and he fires towards the bleachers.

It’s easy to be wise in hindsight but it was blatantly obvious in college too, the anonymous scout who came out with the “cow on ice” quote got ripped but damn they nailed it, he was a bomb scare all along, wanted to believe he could overcome those failings and for a time as a rookie he showed promise, especially under the tutelage of Jeremy Bates, but ultimately he was clearly overrated to begin with.

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59 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Sam Darnold 51 career ints

Baker awesomefield 56 career ints.

Woof, woof

Both suck but common, how can you compare absolute stats knowing how many games Darnold has missed?

Per Attempt
Baker TD% and INT%: 4.8 to 2.9

Sam TD% and INT%: 3.3 to 3.2

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Joe Douglas got us two firsts, a second, a third, and a 4th for Darnold and Adams.  That’s five premium picks plus the money we saved by not paying them.  That alone gets him near Jets FO Ring of Honor status.   Add in what looks to be an excellent 2021 class and I’d say he is off to a damn good start rebuilding this team.

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Sam Darnold 51 career ints

Baker awesomefield 56 career ints.

Woof, woof

This is what a crapshoot finding a QB in the draft is. Of the 8 QBs taken in the first 5 rounds of the  2018 draft, how many would you now choose over Gardner Minshew, who was selected in the 6th round the following year? Basically, the scouts watched film, convened, deliberated and concluded that all of these guys would be better pros then Minshew. 

Baker Mayfield CLE

Sam Darnold NYJ

Josh Allen BUF

Josh Rosen ARZ

Lamar Jackson BAL

Mason Rudolph PIT

Kyle Lauletta NYG

Mike White DAL

 

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40 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Both suck but common, how can you compare absolute stats knowing how many games Darnold has missed?

Per Attempt
Baker TD% and INT%: 4.8 to 2.9

Sam TD% and INT%: 3.3 to 3.2

Yeah they both suck.  One on a team with zero talent at all and another on a team 'ready to make a super bowl run'

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3 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

This is what a crapshoot finding a QB in the draft is. Of the 8 QBs taken in the first 5 rounds of the  2018 draft, how many would you now choose over Gardner Minshew, who was selected in the 6th round the following year? Basically, the scouts watched film, convened, deliberated and concluded that all of these guys would be better pros then Minshew. 

Baker Mayfield CLE

Sam Darnold NYJ

Josh Allen BUF

Josh Rosen ARZ

Lamar Jackson BAL

Mason Rudolph PIT

Kyle Lauletta NYG

Mike White DAL

 

Not to mention Tyler Huntley who was undrafted and looks pretty good for the ravens these days.

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2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Yeah they both suck.  One on a team with zero talent at all and another on a team 'ready to make a super bowl run'

Mayfield has been injured though.  Since he returned he has been terrible, but he was pretty alright at the beginning of the season. 

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1 hour ago, ChewyandtheJets said:

Joe Douglas got us two firsts, a second, a third, and a 4th for Darnold and Adams.  That’s five premium picks plus the money we saved by not paying them.  That alone gets him near Jets FO Ring of Honor status.   Add in what looks to be an excellent 2021 class and I’d say he is off to a damn good start rebuilding this team.

If only his "damn good start" didn't come after he'd already been here for a year and a half. 

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