LaFleur took the bullet

[section314]

Just saw in Cimini's column on ESPN that LaFleur said the botched play was "100% on me."  Guess he has character flaws too?

[Hex]

Just now, section314 said:

Just saw in Cimini's column on ESPN that LaFleur said the botched play was "100% on me."  Guess he has character flaws too?

LaFleur is a selfish brat, taking 100% of the cake.

So yea, character flaws

[JohnnyLV]

Just now, section314 said:

Just saw in Cimini's column on ESPN that LaFleur said the botched play was "100% on me."  Guess he has character flaws too?

Nah he is just looking for all the attention and glory.

It was a dumb call. You cannot tell me that there is not an end around call without a sneak option they could have called.

[Beerfish]

LaFleur is the best coach on the staff quite easily.

Admits to mistakes, corrects the mistakes, admits he needs to reevaluate, does so.

The people in this world that readily admit to mistakes or that their planing needs adjustment you can trust.  The people that are never wrong you can't trust.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

The way they have been handling this is so bizzare. Every day the story changes. 

[Hex]

1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

The way they have been handling this is so bizzare. Every day the story changes. 

Next time Woody is going to come out and be like "This is 100% on me because I haven't packed my bags yet"

[Hex]

6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

LaFleur is the best coach on the staff quite easily.

Admits to mistakes, corrects the mistakes, admits he needs to reevaluate, does so.

The people in this world that readily admit to mistakes or that their planing needs adjustment you can trust.  The people that are never wrong you can't trust.

At first I thought that LaFleur was the type of coach who admits to mistakes all the time but changes nothing. I now stand corrected based on weeks since he moved to the booth.

[bla bla bla]

4 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

LaFleur is the best coach on the staff quite easily.

Admits to mistakes, corrects the mistakes, admits he needs to reevaluate, does so.

The people in this world that readily admit to mistakes or that their planing needs adjustment you can trust.  The people that are never wrong you can't trust.

Agreed, being able to admit fault and make the correct changes is such a great asset to have.

LeFleur is the best OC I think I've ever seen us have. The year with Marshall and Decker was awesome too but the skill level and experience between the 2 is the difference for me. This feels sustainable with the young guns.

[Larz]

I was over that play in 3 minutes 

cmon people 

[Sarge4Tide]

I blame myself for actually believing we would win that damn game

[rangerous]

good for lafleur.  he's protecting his qb.  he called a play that had a sneak option and the qb tried to execute the sneak.  and the thing is that tampa still had a long field, needing a td with 2 minutes or so.  the defense really needed to come up with a play or two.

[FidelioJet]

7 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Agreed, being able to admit fault and make the correct changes is such a great asset to have.

LeFleur is the best OC I think I've ever seen us have. The year with Marshall and Decker was awesome too but the skill level and experience between the 2 is the difference for me. This feels sustainable with the young guns.

I'm not ready to say he's the best we've ever had - yet.

But I do think he's clearly the most creative play caller - we've have to have had the dullest, least imaginative OC's in the league.

Let's see him continue to grow as the players around him grow.

[slats]

6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

LaFleur is the best coach on the staff quite easily.

Admits to mistakes, corrects the mistakes, admits he needs to reevaluate, does so.

The people in this world that readily admit to mistakes or that their planing needs adjustment you can trust.  The people that are never wrong you can't trust.

He’s my favorite of Saleh’s buddies. The offense this year has become more fun than anything we’ve seen around here in a long, long time. We’re lucky the head coach made acquaintances like this when he was younger. The running game is borderline dominant, the trick plays fun, and the rookie QB actually seems to be developing.  
 
And yes, taking the bullet for Zach -true or false- is just simply the smart/right thing to do. 

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, rangerous said:

good for lafleur.  he's protecting his qb.  he called a play that had a sneak option and the qb tried to execute the sneak.  and the thing is that tampa still had a long field, needing a td with 2 minutes or so.  the defense really needed to come up with a play or two.

Yes.  The defense didn't even really need to have made good play - just not multiple bone head ones...2 minute, no TO' - 90 + yards...shouldn't be able to do that.

[Hex]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

I'm not ready to say he's the best we've ever had - yet.

But I do think he's clearly the most creative play caller - we've have to have had the dullest, least imaginative OC's in the league.

Let's see him continue to grow as the player around him grow.

Hopefully his creative playcalling isn't a result of 'nothing to lose'

I would like to see stuff like that at the start of next season too

[Snell41]

Nah he is just looking for all the attention and glory.
It was a dumb call. You cannot tell me that there is not an end around call without a sneak option they could have called.

Jesus ******* Christ please tell me you’re joking.


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[UntouchableCrew]

He's just falling on the sword for Wilson, which is the right thing to do. 

I echo the sentiments about LaFleur. What he's done with the talent (and injuries) we have on this team is legitimately impressive. The offense has consistently improved as the season has gone on, especially the running game. 

If Wilson can take a leap in 2022 and we add a few pieces this offense can be legit next season.

[frankiepapa]

I was over that play in 3 minutes 
cmon people 

Onto Buffalo

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[jetstream23]

26 minutes ago, section314 said:

Just saw in Cimini's column on ESPN that LaFleur said the botched play was "100% on me."  Guess he has character flaws too?

 

Can't tolerate this kind of stuff.

We need to fire LaFleur now.

He's not the guy we thought he was, not the guy we saw as an assistant in San Francisco.

 

[jetstream23]

Saleh covers for Wilson:

WTF!!!! What a mess!

 

 

 

 

LaFleur covers for Wilson:

That's what good coaches do!

We gonna lose him to a head coaching job, ain't we?? ?

 

[y2k8]

 

Everything changed when he went upstairs to call games. 

It's a young staff, you have to be as patient with them as you are the rookies.

The last month has given hope for next year.

[bla bla bla]

18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I'm not ready to say he's the best we've ever had - yet.

But I do think he's clearly the most creative play caller - we've have to have had the dullest, least imaginative OC's in the league.

Let's see him continue to grow as the players around him grow.

I'm only saying during my time as a fan (32 years) There were some solid years mixed in but this seems the most promising.

[LionelRichie]

18 minutes ago, rangerous said:

good for lafleur.  he's protecting his qb.  he called a play that had a sneak option and the qb tried to execute the sneak.  and the thing is that tampa still had a long field, needing a td with 2 minutes or so.  the defense really needed to come up with a play or two.

perfect outcome - team plays well, wilson improves, still improve draft position.

[Augustiniak]

28 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

The way they have been handling this is so bizzare. Every day the story changes. 

it was probably wilson's mistake and saleh didn't figure out immediately that he had to take the blame for it.  and only after the press conferences did he finally figure out that he hung the rookie qb out to dry.

[Jet Nut]

16 minutes ago, Snell41 said:

 

Jesus ******* Christ please tell me you’re joking.


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[slats]

3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

it was probably wilson's mistake and saleh didn't figure out immediately that he had to take the blame for it.  and only after the press conferences did he finally figure out that he hung the rookie qb out to dry.

Sad but, likely, true. He’s a rookie, too. 

[Augustiniak]

Just now, slats said:

Sad but, likely, true. He’s a rookie, too. 

true but saleh should know better.  his knee jerk reaction was to save himself.  one thing to emerge over the 2nd half of this season is that we seem to have, finally, a real OC.  and maybe a real qb too.

[PS17]

Can’t wait for the Bills game to start so we can stop talking about this stupid play. Who the **** cares, it’s over and we are 4-12

[Integrity28]

49 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

The way they have been handling this is so bizzare. Every day the story changes. 

Yea, confirms my suspicion that they threw the game for Vegas and/or the draft.

Imagine if LaFleur had been on the sideline though…

[jetstream23]

19 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I'm only saying during my time as a fan (32 years) There were some solid years mixed in but this seems the most promising.

I feel similar man.

Usually the Jets don't turn their ship a bit until they make a few kneejerk, short-sighted moves like throwing money at free agents or making a big trade up to try to jumpstart the team.  It might turn at 5-win team into a 7-win team for a season but it never lasts.

This feels like the first time we're seeing some glimpses of progress and young players growing while the Jets still have a ton of resources in the tank in terms of Draft picks and Cap space.  We're still churning at the bottom obviously but to me this team is much better than the ones we've seen the past two years, already might have its QB of the future, and has solid pieces on the offense to build around.

The heavy lifting will need to be done on defense but I feel like the Jets have the resources to do that.  It will depend on how gradually they're willing to do it or if they want to throw some big $$$ at a couple of starters in Free Agency.

The forum has been down on Saleh (I get it) but I think he's truly being patient with the defense and wants the offense built first.  On a bad defense the Jets didn't take a single player on Days 1 and 2 of the Draft.  I think Saleh knows that once the Jets turn on the faucet for the defense he'll be able to start doing the things he really wants to do.  Feels like Saleh just hasn't had the horses to run on D, doesn't yet have the pass rushers he needs or the sure tackling LBs to really get past the first few pages of his defensive playbook.

Draft two or three guys in the first 2 rounds, sign a pair of starters in FA, and continue to develop promising young guys like the ones we have the in Secondary (Hall, MCII, Echols, etc.).  To me it feels like this D is a stud pass rusher, two linebackers and two safeties away.  Those 5 pieces will make the CB group in a zone defense look a whole lot better.

[Darnold's Forehead]

“We gotta execute better.”

- Adam Gase

[Drums]

54 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

it was probably wilson's mistake and saleh didn't figure out immediately that he had to take the blame for it.  and only after the press conferences did he finally figure out that he hung the rookie qb out to dry.

I don’t even think he hung anyone out to dry. He basically said what everyone else has said. They had it as an option and should have said give it to Berrios but they didn’t. Said they needed to communicate that better.  This seems to be getting overblown. They’re all rookies and all seem to be correcting their mistakes. 

[Snell41]

Dude there has been a large contingent of people arguing his exact post this week. I hope he’s kidding.


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[munchmemory]

1 hour ago, Hex said:

Next time Woody is going to come out and be like "This is 100% on me because I haven't packed my bags yet"

"I took the liberty of calling that play.  An issue arose, however, as the bisque cook prepared was a smidgen too thick and caused me to garble my words as I telephoned.  So the play's failure is 85% on me.  The other 15% on cook".   --Woody Johnson

[Barry McCockinner]

1 hour ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

The way they have been handling this is so bizzare. Every day the story changes. 

It's like a firing squad. Everyone takes the blame then no one knows who to blame.