HighPitch Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 The value chart says our pair of 2nd rounders are worth around 1100 points. Thats about equivalent to #15. so lets say someone bit. Lets say we got pick 20. It would mean you could snag a trio like: edge - ojabu/karlaftis, - Oline- Linderbaum/Neal wr-London/Burks But no second rounders. wood u wood u wood u?????? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 Nope. You can get 4 starters. No need to trade up this year. 31 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BurnleyJet Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 No we have to many holes on the roster. Two early seconds could yield us a two starters. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 Yes. If I’m Joe D and I see Nakobe Dean or Devin Lloyd sliding, time to start ringing some phones. No different than what happened with AVT 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 I think i would because there is no other way your getting one of the top wrs, top lineman and worthy edge. You will get 2 of the above and then it drops off big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Not a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Possibly yes, especially if we perhaps trade down with one of our 1sts? There are a few players I like enough to go for this (Treylon Burks for instance) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 If youre looking for a guard or center, the answer should be no. If youre looking to replace Becton at LT, perhaps. But the value is in the late first to early third in this draft. I'd seriously think about trading down that Seattle pick and gaining added picks in the late first to early second. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Ala AVT, you trade up for a player. We have plenty of picks. JD needs to pick the right guys. JD has shown he knows how to buy and sell slots. If his draft in 2022 is as good as 2021, we’re in good shape. If it’s like 2020, we’re screwed either way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I think it's a good idea to leverage the 2's to move back up if we're able to trade down from the 4 or the 7 into the teens - acquiring (at least) another second rounder back in that trade, I could have a first round of something like; Ikem Ekwonu OT NC State Treylon Burks WR Arkansas Jermaine Johnson DE FSU And still have a pick in the second 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 My question is would you trade #4 and #36 to move into the top 2 for Thibs/Hutch? I would. Missing out on Bosa for QW was a big blow. Those top Edge guys often pan out. Bosa brothers, Myles Garrett, Chase Young. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Absolutely if the right opportunity presents itself! Let’s say they grab Karlaftis and Stingley with their first 2 picks and they see Linderbaum is available in the late teens. Why not go up and grab him too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I wouldn't rule anything out. Really depends on how we rank players and how the board shakes out. I don't think we want another season with a crap load of rookies starting. That's great for building a foundation but the Jets have to win games in 2022. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Possibly yes, especially if we perhaps trade down with one of our 1sts? There are a few players I like enough to go for this (Treylon Burks for instance) It's early, and a lot will change, but right now, I would have no problem trading out of 4 and taking Burks at 7. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Originally I was going to say no. But if we think a Nakobe Dean would be available there. Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 It depends who is there. I haven't paid attention to who I want, but if they are in love like they were with AVT it makes sense. In addition to getting the player that they want, they get the 5th year option which makes hitting on a 1st better than hitting on a 2nd. This is a weird draft and I don't think people have too great of a grasp on what will go on - I'm not sure the teams do either. There is also the fact that they have so many picks that there isn't necessarily room for all of them. They have plenty of holes, but you have to figure with free agency they hope to at least have a solid floor at every spot. Can't expect all these guys to make it. By my count they have: 2 1sts: Their pick and the Seahawks (Adams) 2 2nds: Their pick and the Panthers (Darnold) 1 3rd : Their pick 2 4ths: The Panthers pick, the Vikings pick (Herndon). The Jets 4th went to Seattle on the Adams deal. 2 5th: Theirs and the Steelers (Avery Williamson) That's 9 picks in the 1st 5 rounds. I think after that they are done. They traded their 6th back to the Vikings in the Herndon deal. They got the 49ers 6th for Jordan Willis, but traded that for Shaq Lawson. They got the Bucs 6th for Steve McLendon, but I think that pick was traded for Flacco. I think the Eagles have since sent that pick off, either for Kary Vincent or Miinshew. The Jets 7th was sent back to Pittsburgh in the Williamson deal. They are certainly in a place where they can easily move up for a player they like without using 2023 ammo. They can also move down and pick up picks for next year. That might make sense, since in 2023 they don't have any extra picks (yet) but swapped their 7th to Bucs in the McLendon deal. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, David Harris said: My question is would you trade #4 and #36 to move into the top 2 for Thibs/Hutch? I would. Missing out on Bosa for QW was a big blow. Those top Edge guys often pan out. Bosa brothers, Myles Garrett, Chase Young. I think the position has to be addressed in the first round this year - but I've faded a bit on Hutch. He and Ojabo were both invisible in the playoff game, their biggest test of the season He and Ojabo both benefitted from the presence of eachother I want to see Karlaftis' combine and specifically Jermaine Johnson's as well (rumored to have run a 4.5 in high school, and checks every box from size/weight/arm-length). Thib might be the only guy that's worth a move up, but if he's going to do what everyone expects him to do at the combine, you'd have to be a fool to trade out of that pick. But I agree with the premise - if someone is truly Garrett or Chase Young freakish, I'd consider moving up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLO Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 No way, there may be actually only 15 first rounders in this entire draft, but the actual second rounders could be 50 or more players. It is a deep deep class lacking true top end talent. Which is to say by trading up into the "first round" you're effectively trading two second round picks for one second round pick. Haven't looked at a trade chart to confirm it but that doesn't look like good business to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 59 minutes ago, HighPitch said: The value chart says our pair of 2nd rounders are worth around 1100 points. Thats about equivalent to #15. so lets say someone bit. Lets say we got pick 20. It would mean you could snag a trio like: edge - ojabu/karlaftis, - Oline- Linderbaum/Neal wr-London/Burks But no second rounders. wood u wood u wood u?????? If there is another AVT at #14, then I would do it in a heartbeat. But, will there be a player at that point that is thought of as good as him? I think the answer to that question is "no". So, the answer I must give is a "no". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 58 minutes ago, HighPitch said: The value chart says our pair of 2nd rounders are worth around 1100 points. Thats about equivalent to #15. so lets say someone bit. Lets say we got pick 20. It would mean you could snag a trio like: edge - ojabu/karlaftis, - Oline- Linderbaum/Neal wr-London/Burks But no second rounders. wood u wood u wood u?????? So turning 4 picks in the first 2 rounds into 3 picks? Nah. I'd only do that if the Jets were a handful of players away from contending. Unfortunately, we need like 9 new starters between offense and defense so I'd be reluctant to turn 4 players into 3 in this Draft. Guys like Elijah Moore and Pat Freiermuth are found in Round 2. I want guys like that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 In a few years, yea. This year, the more the merrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: So turning 4 picks in the first 2 rounds into 3 picks? Nah. I'd only do that if the Jets were a handful of players away from contending. Unfortunately, we need like 9 new starters between offense and defense so I'd be reluctant to turn 4 players into 3 in this Draft. Guys like Elijah Moore and Pat Freiermuth are found in Round 2. I want guys like that. Guys like AVT are found in the first round ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Given our history of 2nd round picks (excluding elijah), I would consider it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 53 minutes ago, section314 said: It's early, and a lot will change, but right now, I would have no problem trading out of 4 and taking Burks at 7. A few weeks back I recall saying he reminded me of a deebo samuel type of player as far as being a total package kind of guy and running after the catch and such and one of the people who's opinion i respect from the daft forum said he was a better version of deebo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 Point: have you seen the Jets track record of 2nd rd picks? counter point: have you seen the Jets track record of 1st round picks? 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I’d rather trade #4 for a mid-1st and pick up two 2nds. We can draft at #7 who we were going to take at #4, then draft at #14 the WR we were going to reach for at #7. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 At this point, I'm hoping JD trades back in first to get another #1 next year + a sweetener (2nd or 3rd) this year. We had a good draft in 2021. He needs another this year. If he can parlay two top 10 picks this year, into a top ten, plus a 10-20 first rounder, double up in rounds 2-4 this year, plus an extra one next year, he may just fix the Jets and this dysfunctional franchise for the rest of the decade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, RedBeardedSavage said: I think it's a good idea to leverage the 2's to move back up if we're able to trade down from the 4 or the 7 into the teens - acquiring (at least) another second rounder back in that trade, I could have a first round of something like; Ikem Ekwonu OT NC State Treylon Burks WR Arkansas Jermaine Johnson DE FSU And still have a pick in the second Guys, unless Becton is traded, we are NOT taking an OT with a high pick. It just isn't good draft capital management. Its not. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, HighPitch said: The value chart says our pair of 2nd rounders are worth around 1100 points. Thats about equivalent to #15. so lets say someone bit. Lets say we got pick 20. It would mean you could snag a trio like: edge - ojabu/karlaftis, - Oline- Linderbaum/Neal wr-London/Burks But no second rounders. wood u wood u wood u?????? If the right guy is available, absolutely, yes. 3 top tier guys would be an absolute coup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Larz said: Point: have you seen the Jets track record of 2nd rd picks? counter point: have you seen the Jets track record of 1st round picks? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: So turning 4 picks in the first 2 rounds into 3 picks? Nah. I'd only do that if the Jets were a handful of players away from contending. Unfortunately, we need like 9 new starters between offense and defense so I'd be reluctant to turn 4 players into 3 in this Draft. Guys like Elijah Moore and Pat Freiermuth are found in Round 2. I want guys like that. We're no amount of good rookies away from competing. If we have 5 top 10 picks, we still wouldn't be there. But, if we add a top edge, and then maybe a top lineman or CB, and we're able to get the #2 WR in the draft at 15, by leveraging our 2 second rounders, I'm 100% on board for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Maybe. If we get a good starting TE in FA, 1) Karlaftis Edge 2) Drake London WR 3) trade up for Linderbaum C This would mean our offense is likely complete and our DL is likely a strength. Use the rest of the picks on defense and then complete the defense in 2023. I’d be ok with that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachStepdad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Idk depends what we do with FA, I would trade a 2nd or 3rd for Ridley and that can sure up the Wr position for us for sure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, HighPitch said: The value chart says our pair of 2nd rounders are worth around 1100 points. Thats about equivalent to #15. so lets say someone bit. Lets say we got pick 20. It would mean you could snag a trio like: edge - ojabu/karlaftis, - Oline- Linderbaum/Neal wr-London/Burks But no second rounders. wood u wood u wood u?????? Our hit rate for second rounders is terrible. so might make sense. Problem is our hit rate on first rounders isn’t so hot either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Hell to the no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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