Mogglez Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Seriously. Wilson is coming off his best game as a pro and people want to sit him down? Come on now. I see both sides of it. Yes, it’s true, you don’t want to coddle him, but the Bears are doing what some are suggesting right now with Fields. I think everyone on both sides of the fence can agree, whether we like it or not: Zach is who we’re going all in on developing. It would not be v gud to see him hurt against the Bills this weekend when we have absolutely nothing to play for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: What about the risk of injury? He will be missing as many as 3 opening day starters! Training camp is only five months away! What if he gets a high ankle sprain!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I see both sides of it. Yes, it’s true, you don’t want to coddle him, but the Bears are doing what some are suggesting right now with Fields. I think everyone on both sides of the fence can agree, whether we like it or not: Zach is who we’re going all in on developing. It would not be v gud to see him hurt against the Bills this weekend when we have absolutely nothing to play for. On the other hand, what if he goes out and has a great game against the Bills? It becomes an entirely different off-season if he does. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: And also there are no starters playing for Zach to get game reps with. Sit him. Yea, sit a guy whose biggest need is more experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: On the other hand, what if he goes out and has a great game against the Bills? It becomes an entirely different off-season if he does. Exactly. People keep talking about all the exciting FA's they want the Jets to spend their giant bag of money on. No matter how much money the Jets offer, no worthy players are coming here unless they believe in Zach Wilson. Period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 The Jets were also pretty depleted last week and gave the Bucs a run for their money. So the decision about whether to start Wilson will be smart if he comes out healthy and incredibly stupid if he gets injured. If he blows a knee or shoulder it could affect his 2022-2023 season. I would sit him. You wonder whether Berrios is looking at this game like a top draft pick views a college bowl game and sits out to avoid getting hurt and blowing his market value (like Godwin and others). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: On the other hand, what if he goes out and has a great game against the Bills? It becomes an entirely different off-season if he does. 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Exactly. People keep talking about all the exciting FA's they want the Jets to spend their giant bag of money on. No matter how much money the Jets offer, no worthy players are coming here unless they believe in Zach Wilson. Period. Yeah, I definitely see that upside. He’s gonna play regardless, so gotta just hope the OL keeps him clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Exactly. People keep talking about all the exciting FA's they want the Jets to spend their giant bag of money on. No matter how much money the Jets offer, no worthy players are coming here unless they believe in Zach Wilson. Period. Honestly, if I were a free agent, watching him bounce balls off the facemasks of Denzel Mims and Jeff Smith would make me excited for the opportunity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Yeah, I definitely see that upside. He’s gonna play regardless, so gotta just hope the OL keeps him clean. Plus, imagine how much more loathed he’d be in the locker room if he voluntarily sat out a Week 18 game just because. They’d tape him to a goalpost for the winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PS17 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Is Edoga the starting left tackle? I think Braden Mann would actually do a better job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Jets just put Berrios on IR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Wilson is playing his best football of the season. No sitting him. However, these injuries are a disgrace and the “receivers” we will play with on Sunday are a national tragedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, PS17 said: Is Edoga the starting left tackle? I think Braden Mann would actually do a better job. lol, he is. and Feeney at center. Yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said: Jets just put Berrios on IR Is it possible someone on this board put a curse on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Plus, imagine how much more loathed he’d be in the locker room if he voluntarily sat out a Week 18 game just because. They’d tape him to a goalpost for the winter. Yeah, that’s probably a no-no. Good news is he ain’t that type of guy so it doesn’t really matter that I wanna treat him like a toy that we keep in the box forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: it doesn’t really matter that I wanna treat him like a toy that we keep in the box forever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just got sent a clip from today's practice. Zach took a shot but I heard he's fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: *pony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Training camp is only five months away! What if he gets a high ankle sprain!? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I can’t wait for camp to start and to read “Becton has been put on the PUP list”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Can you please provide your definition of "franchise qb?" Answer: Zach Wilson on the New York Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: I can’t wait for camp to start and to read “Becton has been put on the PUP list”. He's done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, kmnj said: specifically the jets are going to get destroyed out there-Wilson will be out there surrounded by scrubs and some guys he is not used to playing with and I believe this puts him at greater risk to get hurt. what will he learn or gain from being out there losing by 20+ and getting blasted out there by a solid defense? Sounds like you think Wilson is fragile and doesn't need the experience of playing in tough conditions vs. a very good defense. If he gets hurt, again, it's a sign his body may not be up to the rigors of the NFL. Players get hit in the NFL, after all, even with all the opening day starters. I'd rather know that now, rather than later. But then again, I also don't think the risk is so much higher than any other game he's played this year. Has any other team with a legit franchise QB shut them down in the final week of a non-playoff season purely out of fear of potential injury, when the QB in question was not already hurt? I don't think so. Again, he's not a doll to sit on a shelf. He's supposed to be a franchise QB. Franchise QB's don't sit out of fan fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, Pac said: Talk about a star filled movie. Nice reference, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Talk about a star filled movie. Nice reference, It really is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: I can’t wait for camp to start and to read “Becton has been put on the PUP list”. Before or after Carl Lawson steals his lunch money everyday of training camp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, Warfish said: Sounds like you think Wilson is fragile and doesn't need the experience of playing in tough conditions vs. a very good defense. If he gets hurt, again, it's a sign his body may not be up to the rigors of the NFL. Players get hit in the NFL, after all, even with all the opening day starters. I'd rather know that now, rather than later. But then again, I also don't think the risk is so much higher than any other game he's played this year. Has any other team with a legit franchise QB shut them down in the final week of a non-playoff season purely out of fear of potential injury, when the QB in question was not already hurt? I don't think so. Again, he's not a doll to sit on a shelf. He's supposed to be a franchise QB. Franchise QB's don't sit out of fan fear. I don’t know about the “toughness” thing. Be as tough as you want but when you get slammed repeatedly to the turf by three-hundred pound dudes, toughness isn’t going to keep you from injury. Toughness, IMO, is more a state of mind. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 There is 0.0% chance that Zach sits on Sunday. The idea is insane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: I can agree with that. Based on that, I see no reason to sit Wilson. He has not proven that he is a very good or great player, let alone that the team should build their offense or franchise around him. Playing well this week could help show that he is. Sitting on his ass can do nothing but let him collect a check and not hurt his delicate mind or body. Delicate mind and body? Bet that kid’s 10 times tougher than you on all fronts. Weak statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said: I don’t know about the “toughness” thing. Be as tough as you want but when you get slammed repeatedly to the turf by three-hundred pound dudes, toughness isn’t going to keep you from injury. Toughness, IMO, is more a state of mind. Toughness AND durability are, of course, essential characteristics in the NFL. Seems to me Warfish was talking about both of those characteristics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said: Delicate mind and body? Bet that kid’s 10 times tougher than you on all fronts. Weak statement. "My Dad can beat up your Dad!" vibes with this post. Someone is a little too sensitive. Especially since it doesn't seem to me that Dom was even calling Wilson "delicate" here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said: Delicate mind and body? Bet that kid’s 10 times tougher than you on all fronts. Weak statement. I am a 55 year old man. I am 5'9". I am 212 lbs, as much as 186 of that is where it should be. If the chance arose to play QB for the Jets on Sunday for Wilson's game check I would be first in line. I didn't say that Wilson had a weak mind and body. I said that as long as he doesn't, there is no reason to sit him for a regular season NFL game when he is completely healthy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I am a 55 year old man. I am 5'9". I am 212 lbs, as much as 186 of that is where it should be. If the chance arose to play QB for the Jets on Sunday for Wilson's game check I would be first in line. I didn't say that Wilson had a weak mind and body. I said that as long as he doesn't, there is no reason to sit him for a regular season NFL game when he is completely healthy. You referred to his “delicate mind and body” in your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said: You referred to his “delicate mind and body” in your post. Because that is the only reason to sit him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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