OMA Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 This time last year Stingley was widely regarded as the best cb prospect since Ramsey. Fast forward to today and there seems to be little interest in drafting him with either pick. I realize sitting out the year worries some, but given the current world and LSU turning into a dumpster fire I do not hold that against him. I would have concerns over any medicals but assuming that clears I tend to want difference makers and play makers when drafting this high. Karlaftis is a nice player and maybe he is Maxx Crosby but I can't help think we may be passing on an elite player. I know some will say the scheme does not need elite cb which is nonsense. Elite is elite and great coaches figure out how to maximize their impact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreenFish Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 Too injury prone. No need to take such a big risk when there are other players you can draft. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saul Goodman Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 I’m beyond intrigued Stingley. He might be the best player in the draft. But, as already mentioned, the injury concerns are just too much for the Jets to take a chance on him. If he can manage to stay healthy in the pro’s a team will be very happy with him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alka Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Too injury prone. No need to take such a big risk when there are other players you can draft. Dee Milliner agrees with you. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Too injury prone. No need to take such a big risk when there are other players you can draft. Injury prone? What can go wrong? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 To me it’s both. The Jets don’t need a CB like they do an edge rusher or safety and he’s so injury prone. I’d prefer Sauce Gardner if we were going CB 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 An injury risk DB in a system that values EDGE rushers much higher than DB's? What could go wrong? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 Persistent injuries in college = hard no 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: An injury risk DB in a system that values EDGE rushers much higher than DB's? What could go wrong? In a nutshell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrcoops Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 It's both. I love Corners, I played Corner, and I always love the Jets to have good Corners. But it is true that the scheme just doesn't require elite man-to-man corners. Picking a man-to-man Corner high in round 1, just to play him in a predominantly zone-based scheme, is not a good use of resources. Plus Stingley scares me. His injury history is very Dee Milliner-esque, and that's a huge concern. Use our 1st rounders on a pass-rusher and a WR, OL or LB. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 The position is why I don't think we'll take him. I don't think this administration values CB as a elite position but rather view it as one where they can develop later picks. The player is why I personally don't want him. The guy basically hasn't played in two years -- there isn't good tape of him out there since 2019. You need to absolutely nail both of these picks. You want a homerun but you simply cannot strike out. Stingley carries too much risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 It would be a bold move. I personally lived the kid when I saw him play. He has the it factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I love Stingley Jr., but his injury history scares the sh*t out of me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I would rather Trent McDuffie who's be mocked from 15th to the early 2nd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, OMA said: This time last year Stingley was widely regarded as the best cb prospect since Ramsey. Fast forward to today and there seems to be little interest in drafting him with either pick. I realize sitting out the year worries some, but given the current world and LSU turning into a dumpster fire I do not hold that against him. I would have concerns over any medicals but assuming that clears I tend to want difference makers and play makers when drafting this high. Karlaftis is a nice player and maybe he is Maxx Crosby but I can't help think we may be passing on an elite player. I know some will say the scheme does not need elite cb which is nonsense. Elite is elite and great coaches figure out how to maximize their impact. I would say its because we don't need him. Our young CB's have played pretty good. When they get burned is typically when an opponent's QB has like 15 seconds to throw the ball. Which is why we need edge rushers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMA Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Appreciate the comments. Will be interesting to see how high a team is willing to take the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I don't think it's likely they go CB nearly that high. Just look at the last offseason and look where they invested in San Francisco draft-wise. It's all about the D-line and premium resources spent at edge. We just paid Lawson and JFM and took all our CBs at the end of the draft. I'd say it's way more likely we take the best edge available at one of the two picks. It's just not a priority or good use of draft resources for this system to take a corner that high. We're also way more badly in need of better linebackers than anything on the corner end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 It's weird, I'd much rather use the 2nd first on a guy like Ahmad Gardner than Stingely. And I'm aware of how good Stingely's tape is. I'd rather roll with the guy who proved himself for 3+ years at a program where he had to work for everything as opposed to a guy who set the world on fire for one year...and then disappeared. But this may all be a moot point, as this coaching staff doesn't appear to highly value corners. But a case can be made that drafting a true #1 completes this group for the next 3-4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 The guy looked phenomenal ...... two years ago. 2020 nfl draft #3 overall pick , Awesome CB prospect....Jeffrey Okudah The guy has played 10 games in two yeas due to injury. We need, WR, TE, S, pas rusher, oline, lb more than we need CBs if you ask me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Eh. Hall and Echols are fine. Gimme those pass rushers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 His best tape is from 2019 and rest of the tape is good but not special and he’s always injured. Bad mix of things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The guy looked phenomenal ...... two years ago. 2020 nfl draft #3 overall pick , Awesome CB prospect....Jeffrey Okudah The guy has played 10 games in two yeas due to injury. We need, WR, TE, S, pas rusher, oline, lb more than we need CBs if you ask me. Other than Mosley, the only guys on the D that played worth a damn were our young corners. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 It's a little of both for me. I don't like the injury history with Stingley and I don't want to spend a top 10 pick on one. As for the position itself, this defense feels way more focused on our DL than the secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 The last thing this franchise needs is an injury prone player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Stingley isnt injury prone. He basically bagged out because the team sucks. Hopefully the Jets do their homework to verify this - but its pretty much the reason. These aren’t serious injuries he has had that would prevent you from drafting him. Now if you want to question him for bagging out then that is fine.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 wasn't injuries the knock on bryce hall and austin? those guys came in and have been pretty much injury free as pros. of course they need to worry about getting another milliner. maybe stingly's injuries will put him down into a later round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 11 hours ago, RSJ said: Stingley isnt injury prone. He basically bagged out because the team sucks. Hopefully the Jets do their homework to verify this - but its pretty much the reason. These aren’t serious injuries he has had that would prevent you from drafting him. Now if you want to question him for bagging out then that is fine. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app If I'm drafting someone top 5, I don't want to worry about injuries or just a guy bagging out. If he stopped playing there because the team was bad, I don't want to bring him to the Jets, who are trying to build from the ground up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Corner might be the least needed position in this team right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 If I'm drafting someone top 5, I don't want to worry about injuries or just a guy bagging out. If he stopped playing there because the team was bad, I don't want to bring him to the Jets, who are trying to build from the ground up.Its no different than sitting out a bowl game. It wasnt going to help his draft status very much by playing. He is going to be a top 5 pick and a very good pro. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 5th round is a GREAT place to draft injury prone CBs with potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Corner might be the least needed position in this team right now. An upgrade that pushes Bryce Hall to CB2 would set us up to have a top CB room, but I am not even thinking about a corner until we address linebacker, EDGE, TE, WR, and safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 4:18 PM, PS17 said: In a nutshell This is nuts !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 There are 2 dozen players I’d take before Stingley. Please no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The last few years have been disastrous as far as injuries for the Jets go, I’m staying away from anyone with a significant history. Last years draft is a prime example just look at Caleb Farley. “He could be a top 5 pick if he’s healthy” Titans make the gamble mid 1st round, Farley plays 2-3 games and gets hurt yet again. It’s just not worth the risk at 4 and 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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