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Jameson Williams vs. Every other elite Alabama WR prospect


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14 minutes ago, WhartonJet said:

He was only at Alabama for 1 year after transferring from Ohio State, but was a year it was.  Not one of the other elite Alabama receivers came close to Jameson's insane 20.1 YPC this year.  The more I look at this draft, the more I think he is the guy at #4.  The only thing that MAY give me pause is if Thibodeaux/Hutchinson were there.  But, I just keep coming back to pairing Jameson Williams with Elijah Moore.  The wonders that would do for Zach Wilson I think is immeasurable.  He would have 2 elite playmakers that are just electric with the ball in their hands.  Plus, Michael Carter looks to be another weapon.  I don't think any other single player in this draft would have the same impact on our team as Jameson Williams (including the pass rushers).  I'm ALL IN on Jameson Williams at 4.

Jameson Williams

Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Overall         90 1773 19.7 18 3 23 7.7 0 93 1796 19.3
*2019 Ohio State Big Ten FR WR 4 6 112 18.7 1 0 0   0 6 112 18.7 1
*2020 Ohio State Big Ten SO WR 6 9 154 17.1 2 0 0   0 9 154 17.1 2
*2021 Alabama SEC JR WR 14 75 1507 20.1 15 3 23 7.7 0 78 1530 19.6 15

 

Julio Jones

Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Alabama         179 2653 14.8 15 10 139 13.9 2 189 2792
*2008 Alabama SEC FR WR 14 58 924 15.9 4         58 924 15.9 4
*2009 Alabama SEC SO WR 13 43 596 13.9 4 2 4 2.0 0 45 600 13.3 4
*2010 Alabama SEC JR WR 13 78 1133 14.5 7 8 135 16.9 2 86 1268 14.7 9

 

Amari Cooper

Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Alabama         228 3463 15.2 31 6 51 8.5 0 234 351
*2012 Alabama SEC FR WR 14 59 1000 16.9 11         59 1000 16.9 11
*2013 Alabama SEC   WR 11 45 736 16.4 4 1 28 28.0 0 46 764 16.6 4
*2014 Alabama SEC JR WR 14 124 1727 13.9 16 5 23 4.6 0 129 1750 13.6 16

Calvin Ridley

Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Alabama         224 2781 12.4 19 8 40 5.0 1 232

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*2015 Alabama SEC FR WR 15 89 1045 11.7 7 1 2 2.0 0 90 1047 11.6 7
*2016 Alabama SEC SO WR 15 72 769 10.7 7 5 21 4.2 1 77 790 10.3 8
*2017 Alabama SEC JR WR 14 63 967 15.3 5 2 17 8.5 0 65 984 15.1 5

 

Jerry Jeudy

Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Alabama         159 2742 17.2 26 1 1 1.0 0 160 2743 17.1 26
*2017 Alabama SEC FR WR 8 14 264 18.9 2 0 0   0 14 264 18.9 2
*2018 Alabama SEC SO WR 15 68 1315 19.3 14 0 0   0 68 1315 19.3 14
*2019 Alabama SEC JR WR 13 77 1163 15.1 10 1 1 1.0 0 78 1164 14.9 10

Devonta Smith

Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Alabama         235 3965 16.9 46 4 6 1.5 1 239 3971 16.
*2017 Alabama SEC FR WR 8 8 160 20.0 3 0 0   0 8 160 20.0 3
*2018 Alabama SEC SO WR 13 42 693 16.5 6 0 0   0 42 693 16.5 6
*2019 Alabama SEC JR WR 13 68 1256 18.5 14 0 0   0 68 1256 18.5 14
*2020 Alabama SEC SR WR 13 117 1856 15.9 23 4 6 1.5 1 121 1862 15.4 24

 

Jaylen Waddle

Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
Career Alabama         106 1999 18.9 17 4 17 4.3 0 110 2016 18.3 17
*2018 Alabama SEC FR WR 15 45 848 18.8 7 0 0   0 45 848 18.8 7
*2019 Alabama SEC SO WR 13 33 560 17.0 6 1 5 5.0 0 34 565 16.6 6
*2020 Alabama SEC JR WR 6 28 591 21.1 4 3 12 4.0 0 31 603 19.5 4

He couldnt crack the line up at Ohio State and had to transfer to Alabama to get playing time.   Do only 1 year of success though a very good year.  Contrast that to all the other Bama receivers.   Does that curb your enthusiasm at all?

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9 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said:

@WhartonJet Measurables please. 

 

I dont want another E.Moore on this team, i want a devante adams to compliment E.Moore

  • POSITION
     
    WR
  • HEIGHT
     
    6-2
  • WEIGHT
     
    189
  • CLASS
     
    Junior
  • HOMETOWN
     
    St. Louis, Mo.
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I still think we have to trade back with one of our picks. We’ve done such a great job of stacking picks the last two years and I think we should continue to do the same. 
 

We all know one or two of these QBs are going to go top 10, maybe even top five. I would LOVE to trade down with one of the QB needy teams and acquire another second rounder this year and a first next year. 
 

We can still get a WR like Burk or London in the teens. 

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35 minutes ago, JTJet said:

Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson were already the established 1/2, BOTH can be argued to go 1-2-3 for WR in this draft. Anyone else at Ohio State was just getting scraps. 

Once he got to the top of a depth chart, he balled out. 

He is going to be just fine in the NFL. 

I saw an interview, I think it was before the Mich/Ohio St. game where Olave and Wilson, reluctantly, admitted that Jaxon Smith-Njigba was probably the best of the three and he was riding the pine behind them.

 

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35 minutes ago, WhartonJet said:

He is listed at 6'2'' 190.  He is not under 6 feet like Elijah Moore.

Jameson will run in the 4.3s at the combine

He's probably faster than that.  If JD is looking to add pure speed, he would be the pick. I question his contested catch and ladder climbing.

For that reason I'm hoping we go a different direction at WR, and get Burks if he tests well. 

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34 minutes ago, WhartonJet said:

Jameson Williams' game reminds me of Cee Dee Lamb.  I think that is his best pro comp.  But Cee Dee ran 4.51 at the combine at the same height/weight as Jameson Williams (6'2" 190).  Jameson is going to run in the 4.3s 

Size wise, maybe.  But two totally different players.  

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The only way that the Jets are getting a real WR1 is to draft one.  Although there are examples of good receivers going in the 2nd or 3rd round, lately the great WRs from top programs are first round picks.  The Jets should make that happen with their second first round pick.

It is also hard to find Edge and OT.  The Jets actually have 2 OTs next season, and maybe 3.  The EDGE could be interesting at 4.  

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We should go WR at #7 where we will have our pick of the litter.  No need to use the #4.

I like ALL the top WR’s in this class. 😂 They all bring a unique set of skills to the table. If we want a speedster, Jamison Williams will be our guy and I will have no issues with him at #7.
 

However, my hunch is we will lean towards the green bay version of the WCO and get a basketball player type like Drake London. Just a guess. But id be happy with Jameson Williams, Garrett Wilson, Treylon Burks, Chris Olave, Jahan Dotson, or Drake London. All depends on what the coaching staff wants.

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If I remember correctly from @Paradis in the draft forum, most of his production was on bubbles and go's, with some slants sprinkled in.

Not saying that's necessarily a hard pass, but it's hard to know what else he can do? Can't blame Alabama for sticking with what works, but it's something to consider. 

Perhaps the new combine route tree and his pro day will shed more light on his route running. We all know dude is fast AF.

Certainly could be a top 10 pick and should be on our radar. 

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Ohio State showed in their bowl game that they were six deep at WR, each of which will likely be first round picks. 

So you’d pick the guy who was number 7 on their depth chart?   


To be clear, I want the Jets to pick the best receiver that fits their system and needs. I don’t know that I’ve seen this scenario before, so just curious how fans reconcile this when choosing Williams over Olave for example.   If Williams truly is the best, then I hope he is our pick.

 

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2 hours ago, JTJet said:

Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson were already the established 1/2, BOTH can be argued to go 1-2-3 for WR in this draft. Anyone else at Ohio State was just getting scraps. 

Once he got to the top of a depth chart, he balled out. 

He is going to be just fine in the NFL. 

Sorry but there are plenty of established players who lost their job to a younger player.  Hurts lost his job to Tua and had to transfer.   That’s just one example.  It’s even easier to win a job when there are 2 or 3 spots open.  Or at least he could split reps with another player.  He didn’t even do that.

He may be a great prospect that developed late but the other wrs played multiple seasons at OSU while Williams had one good year.

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2 hours ago, Joejet said:

Joe Burrow couldn’t crack the lineup at Ohio State either but he turned out to be half way decent.

True and good counter.   I’d respond that there’s only 1 starting QB on a team, whereas there are several starting WRs allowing multiple players to start and play.  
Perhaps OSU preferred a QB that could also run the ball.  Burrow is a classic drop back style.

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