doitny Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 you guys hear anything? i googled it and got nothing. maybe hes going back to his QB training business. that's a shame if he does. looks like Zach got his accuracy better while he was here. i would have loved to have him with Zach for a full season. and this year is important to his development. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adoni Beast Posted January 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2022 As per NFL rules if hes on the Jets staff he wouldn’t be allowed to talk to Zach all off-season. ‘Going back to his own private business allows him to train Zach in the offseason. i suspect he’ll find his way back to the coaching staff come training camp… 17 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 68JET11 Posted January 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2022 Those are the stupidest rules you can have... How do you make a team better if you can't work with your own players whenever you want to. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, 68JET11 said: Those are the stupidest rules you can have... How do you make a team better if you can't work with your own players whenever you want to. That’s the CBA in a nut shell. Players had issues with team demands in the off season and this is the result. Even if both the player and the team agreed to putting in the time it violates the CBA and teams will be penalized. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 John Beck is nice and all, but why the f*ck can’t the Jets offer Joe Montana like $1 million a year to be Wilson’s QB coach? QB’s didn’t make a whole lot of money back then you know… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, 68JET11 said: Those are the stupidest rules you can have... How do you make a team better if you can't work with your own players whenever you want to. CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, doitny said: you guys hear anything? i googled it and got nothing. maybe hes going back to his QB training business. that's a shame if he does. looks like Zach got his accuracy better while he was here. i would have loved to have him with Zach for a full season. and this year is important to his development. Zach said he can’t work with him in the off-season if Beck works for the team and that’s why Beck wasn’t there at the end of the year lol. I’m not sure if Beck will want to come back next season, but it seemed to help. That was going to be Knapps roll and the new coach wasn’t a good fit for whatever reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Untouchable said: John Beck is nice and all, but why the f*ck can’t the Jets offer Joe Montana like $1 million a year to be Wilson’s QB coach? QB’s didn’t make a whole lot of money back then you know… Great players don’t often make great coaches. It seems the good ones were all JAGs and backups. Montana was a lousy analyst and his trial didn’t last long. Maybe he is a poor communicator? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 So Beck's contract expired at the end of the season and was not picked up - which allows him to work with Zach in the off-season. Its a loop hole that regular coaches wouldnt normally take as they wouldnt want to be on year-to-year deals with the team, but Beck has a successful regular business, so for him, and the Jets it works great. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, BCJet said: So Beck's contract expired at the end of the season and was not picked up - which allows him to work with Zach in the off-season. Its a loop hole that regular coaches wouldnt normally take as they wouldnt want to be on year-to-year deals with the team, but Beck has a successful regular business, so for him, and the Jets it works great. It also means that if Beck's business gets really hot for some reason, he isn't tied to the Jets. If it isn't hot, he can just come back. It's a loophole, but it is rarely exploited so works great for the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Hex said: It also means that if Beck's business gets really hot for some reason, he isn't tied to the Jets. If it isn't hot, he can just come back. It's a loophole, but it is rarely exploited so works great for the Jets. That's really the question I have. Is this a loophole they can exploit or is there something blocking this from being the case? I suspect if there isn't now and the Jets try this - it will be brought up and the rules changed. But I can honestly say I have no idea. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I think it was a great move as it gave Beck a first hand look at the offense in real time. Beck now knows (hopefully) exactly what he needs to do to help Wilson learn this offense better and work on his deficiencies. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 hours ago, RoadFan said: Great players don’t often make great coaches. It seems the good ones were all JAGs and backups. Montana was a lousy analyst and his trial didn’t last long. Maybe he is a poor communicator? Would be interesting to list some guys who did more than 1 thing great. For example, Ozzie Newsome was a great player and a great GM. John Madden was a great HC and a great announcer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 15 hours ago, 68JET11 said: Those are the stupidest rules you can have... How do you make a team better if you can't work with your own players whenever you want to. How many people would love it if their employer wasn't allowed to talk to them unless they were on the clock! (I do agree though. It does seem stupid) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 hours ago, FidelioJet said: That's really the question I have. Is this a loophole they can exploit or is there something blocking this from being the case? I suspect if there isn't now and the Jets try this - it will be brought up and the rules changed. But I can honestly say I have no idea. Since it's so specific, I doubt the NFL will do anything to stop it because it's not going to really happen in a different scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 hours ago, FidelioJet said: That's really the question I have. Is this a loophole they can exploit or is there something blocking this from being the case? I suspect if there isn't now and the Jets try this - it will be brought up and the rules changed. But I can honestly say I have no idea. Isn't this kind of like Brady's guy Guerrero/TB12 that the Pats paid to train/inject HGH into Pats players? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Isn't this kind of like Brady's guy Guerrero/TB12 that the Pats paid to train/inject HGH into Pats players? yes, well the Pats will exploit every loophole they can. It's what they're good at.. I would like to see the Jets try and do the same...Do what it takes to be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I get the feeling Beck as full time coach was one and done. He wants to maintain his own coaching business. Beck will work with Zach all offseason. Interesting question though: Can Beck talk to Saleh and LaFleur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 18 hours ago, Untouchable said: John Beck is nice and all, but why the f*ck can’t the Jets offer Joe Montana like $1 million a year to be Wilson’s QB coach? QB’s didn’t make a whole lot of money back then you know… Great players don't necessarily make great coaches, and in fact, some would argue that they usually don't make great coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I get the feeling Beck as full time coach was one and done. He wants to maintain his own coaching business. Beck will work with Zach all offseason. Interesting question though: Can Beck talk to Saleh and LaFleur? I would guess yes. If he's no longer emplyed, he's not covered by the rules, one wouldn't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Zach's accuracy post John Beck hire was 53.83%. It did not get better technically. Now if you want to throw out the real garbage games Zach had like New Orleans and Buffalo, it was 59.32% which is better than it was in the first half of the season. But you have to remove games where he played really bad in order to make that number look almost decent. It was around 58.7% when he got hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Hopefully Beck can fix this Zach backpeddling issue !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: Hopefully Beck can fix this Zach backpeddling issue !! It's not an isse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I think it’s amazing that he will be able to work with Zach this offseason. If the Patriots did something like this, everyone would be saying how much of a genius BB is and how he’s an outside the box thinker. You know, when everyone zigs, BB zags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, johnnysd said: It's not an isse Agreed. Rogers does it. Mahomes does it. It’s not uncommon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 21 hours ago, Bocajetfan said: That’s the CBA in a nut shell. Players had issues with team demands in the off season and this is the result. Even if both the player and the team agreed to putting in the time it violates the CBA and teams will be penalized. yep. it was one thing when players (nba, mlb, nfl) weren't paid that much and actually had to have real jobs in the off season but now the nfl is 24/7/365. the whole idea of zero communication until training camp is ludicrous and quant. i suspect the good teams work around this rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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