Jetsfan80 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: You two both make very good points, but at some point the Jets need to reward the players who actually play well here. Another thing none of us have mentioned is how bad a team we are. Like it or not we have to pay a bit of a premium to retain or acquire FAs. If I were Berrios and I had comparable offers from us and a playoff level team, I’m going to the team that is a winner, I’m not signing with the doormat. Berrios' best bet when it comes to value and usage is actually to stay here, not go to a winner. He got WR1 snaps and targets at several points this season. He wouldn't get that anywhere else. With a contender (many of which already have established slot receivers), he might just get relegated to pure return man duties and only get a splash of snaps during the season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jetluv58 said: Don’t write him off yet. Big Ticket will return! He will return to the Buffet for 2nds, 3rds,4ths, 5ths....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Berrios' best bet when it comes to value and usage is actually to stay here, not go to a winner. He got WR1 snaps and targets at several points this season. He wouldn't get that anywhere else. With a contender (many of which already have established slot receivers), he might just get relegated to pure return man duties and only get a splash of snaps during the season. I understand what you’re saying, but any team that tells him that’s how they view him isn’t a team he’s going to be interested in signing with. I could be wrong, but I think he’s proven he brings value split wide, in the slot, and at KR now. I’ll be surprised if there aren’t a few teams involved in the bidding for a player like that. We’ll find out soon enough though, assuming the he and the Jets can’t work out a deal first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: You two both make very good points, but at some point the Jets need to reward the players who actually play well here. Another thing none of us have mentioned is how bad a team we are. Like it or not we have to pay a bit of a premium to retain or acquire FAs. If I were Berrios and I had comparable offers from us and a playoff level team, I’m going to the team that is a winner, I’m not signing with the doormat. BTW @FidelioJet Berrios is no way the #4 or 5 WR on this team. It’s unfair to say that. As a WR he's essentially Moore's back-up. Look, I like the guy but I think we're getting ahead of ourselves a bit with him. He was the only reasonable option left on the team and performed admirably under those circumstances - but he's a somewhat limited player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Douglas won't get played. I imagine he'll want him back AND will simultaneously have a good idea of what the market is dictating Berrios' worth to be. My guess is Berrios' agent finds out he maxes out as about a $7M a year player, so Douglas ends up paying right at that number or slightly higher. If it goes as high as $8M, I won't be thrilled with that but it wouldn't be the end of the world. JD only gets played by players with the last name Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: As a WR he's essentially Moore's back-up. Look, I like the guy but I think we're getting ahead of ourselves a bit with him. He was the only reasonable option left on the team and performed admirably under those circumstances - but he's a somewhat limited player. what has Moore done that would make you say Berrios is nothing but his backup, and In what way is he “a somewhat limited player”? Moore is the guy you’re getting ahead of yourself with, imo. Why do people always look to knock the players who play well here when it’s time to pay them, yet always assume the new shiny thing is better, despite proving nothing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, Green Ghost said: LOl, what has Moore done that would make you say Berrios is nothing but his backup, and In what way is he “a somewhat limited player”? Why do people always look to knock the players who play well here when it’s time to pay them, yet always assume the new shiny thing is better, despite proving nothing? I do want to pay him. I'm all for keeping him. I like him... I think he should be paid as a top kick/punt returner - and #4 or #5 WR. That's what he is. And he is exactly Moore's back up - that's pretty much his role. They'll do similar things - line up in the slot, backfield and on the outside if necessary. That's not to say he won't get reps if Moore is healthy but they basically do the same thing and Moore will get the bulk of those reps... It's not a knock on Berrios that he's backing up Elijah Moore - Moore is a special talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I do want to pay him. I'm all for keeping him. I like him... I think he should be paid as a top kick/punt returner - and #4 or #5 WR. That's what he is. And he is exactly Moore's back up - that's pretty much his role. They'll do similar things - line up in the slot, backfield and on the outside if necessary. That's not to say he won't get reps if Moore is healthy but they basically do the same thing and Moore will get the bulk of those reps... It's not a knock on Berrios that he's backing up Elijah Moore - Moore is a special talent. How exactly is Moore is “a special talent?” He’s a small, fast WR who couldn’t stay healthy and struggle more than he flashed when healthy, especially with Wilson as the QB. The only time he ever looked “special” was against our defense in Training Camp, and as it turned out you would’ve probably looked special against them also... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: How exactly is Moore is “a special talent?” He’s a small, fast WR who couldn’t stay healthy and struggle more than he flashed when healthy, especially with Wilson as the QB. The only time he ever looked “special” was against our defense in Training Camp, and as it turned out you would’ve probably looked special against them also... ? okay. You win. Braxton Berrios is better than Elijah Moore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: okay. You win. Braxton Berrios is better than Elijah Moore. Thank you. Right now if you take feelings out of it, and just go off performance it’s not really close. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 7 hours ago, docdhc said: Best in the naytion! LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WestCoastMole Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 8 hours ago, oatmeal said: If JD lets this dude walk, he will most certainly go to the dirty Pats ? Not all that surprising when you stop to consider it was Mumbles who tried to sneak Berrios through Waivers. That's how the Jets picked him up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Green Ghost said: Thank you. Right now if you take feelings out of it, and just go off performance it’s not really close. Lol, I laughed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Berrios reminds me of a Welker/Edelman/Chrebet/Stokley WR. Not a number one or a two but I matchup nightmare against number 4 and 5 CBs You need guys like that. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 17 hours ago, ZachEY said: Oh my heavens that is absolutely delicious, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: He will return to the Buffet for 2nds, 3rds,4ths, 5ths....... Not if I get there first! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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