Re-Drafting the 2021 QB Class

[Rhg1084]

Ok so that officially puts a wrap on the 2021 rookie QB season and I’d thought it’d be interesting to see where these guys would go if they had a redraft today.

1. Trevor Lawrence - All things considered he had a terrible year and really didn’t show many “flashes”. However, he was in a very dysfunctional system and probably the worst spot for him. He still has all the talent in the world and would be the 1st overall pick IMO.

2. Zach Wilson- obviously he had a very rough start and people were calling him a bust already. But he had a great second half with 0 ints in his last 5 games. And unlike Trevor, he did have some “flashy” moments this year. I still think he’s QB2 in this draft. 
 

3. Mac Jones - he’s a tough guy to evaluate cause all things considered he had a great year. Seems to be like he will be a competent QB in this league. Just not sure what the ceiling is for him.

4. Trey Lance - another guy who’s tough to evaluate considering he didn’t even play this year. But everything we have heard and seen about him is his skills set is going to be perfect for the NFL. Going on the unknown I’d think he’d be the 4th QB off the board.

5. David Mills- this kid was the last one drafted and wound up having a remarkable year for a terrible Houston team. From what we saw it looks like he will be a starting caliber QB in this league.

6. Justin Fields- was very overhyped in the pre draft process last year but man did he have a rough year. Did not really put much on tape and his numbers are awful. Will need a major turnaround or he could be done real quick in Chicago

[oatmeal]

Still can’t see Mac or mills going above Lance and Fields. QBs are drafted that high mainly based on potential and physical traits.

 

if anything I think NE takes mills over Mac 

[NYJets43]

I think Lance will end up being the best when it is all said and done. He’s the most talented and is receiving the best coaching. 

[GreenFish]

I don't think we’ve seen enough to change the order. Jones and Mills are the only ones that had good years. The rest sucked for most of the year but you got glimpses of what a winning team could look like around them.

I don't see the upside of Jones despite his good season. I didn't really watch Mills much so no comment. I’d still be happy with any one of Lance, Zach, Fields and Lawrence in no particular order. Mills is a bogey. Since I didn't watch him much, i don’t have an opinion one way or the other.

[LAD_Brooklyn]

This class will be a big disappointment imo.

[FidelioJet]

As of right now....Jets are the winner in this lottery.

[Green Ghost]

The Bengals won the first round last year. Dallas next.

The QB class looks pretty bad right now except for Jones and as I’m learning tonight, Mills.

[JoJoTownsell1]

I still take Fields and Lance over Jones. Jones proved he can dink and dunk and win games with a great defense and running game.  Mark Sanchez did the same thing but with multiple playoff wins. 

[slimjasi]

At some point - does having these rookie QB comparisons every 5 minutes become fruitless? There’s not enough data. 

[LSJF]

When the dust settles, which organization gets their sh*te together… there is no Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck here, a player who can win despite his team…

NOT IN ANY ORDER…

 

Mac Jones has the best organization behind him, but if Mac has a short ceiling Bill may want more out of his QB physically like these other successful qb’s around the league…so he might be gone eventually even though he had the best year, controlled heavily by his staff…

Justin Fields will already be welcoming a new coach, chaos ? Boom or bust

Zach Wilson… His ceiling is high, Will JD do the right thing and stack up the offense with so much depth, and reliable players? Right now the Jets are stable, giving him a chance to sink or swim, I’m betting on swimming…if Cory Davis is our number one receiver, then we better have some healthy WR’s and a major upgrade at TE…

Trevor Lawrence .. All world talent, In another crappy organization, if they bring in a stud coach, they will probably be the best in our class… If they hire another crap coach, he can put up good numbers on a crap team….

Trey Lance, incomplete…he’s with a strong organization and hasn’t been rushed into action…ceiling is high..

Davis Mills, Showed promise on a crap team, new coach coming in, hopefully it fits with what the coach wants…

 

 

[Hex]

50 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Ok so that officially puts a wrap on the 2021 rookie QB season and I’d thought it’d be interesting to see where these guys would go if they had a redraft today.

1. Trevor Lawrence - All things considered he had a terrible year and really didn’t show many “flashes”. However, he was in a very dysfunctional system and probably the worst spot for him. He still has all the talent in the world and would be the 1st overall pick IMO.

2. Zach Wilson- obviously he had a very rough start and people were calling him a bust already. But he had a great second half with 0 ints in his last 5 games. And unlike Trevor, he did have some “flashy” moments this year. I still think he’s QB2 in this draft. 
 

3. Mac Jones - he’s a tough guy to evaluate cause all things considered he had a great year. Seems to be like he will be a competent QB in this league. Just not sure what the ceiling is for him.

4. Trey Lance - another guy who’s tough to evaluate considering he didn’t even play this year. But everything we have heard and seen about him is his skills set is going to be perfect for the NFL. Going on the unknown I’d think he’d be the 4th QB off the board.

5. David Mills- this kid was the last one drafted and wound up having a remarkable year for a terrible Houston team. From what we saw it looks like he will be a starting caliber QB in this league.

6. Justin Fields- was very overhyped in the pre draft process last year but man did he have a rough year. Did not really put much on tape and his numbers are awful. Will need a major turnaround or he could be done real quick in Chicago

Dont forget Kellen Mond

The coach talked about him like JN did about Zach after facing the Pats

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

54 minutes ago, NYJets43 said:

I think Lance will end up being the best when it is all said and done. He’s the most talented and is receiving the best coaching. 

So Shanahan is > belicheck? Asking for a friend

[jetstream23]

Wilson, AVT, Moore, Michael Carter!

For once I am hopeful that the Jets have truly jumpstarted one side of the ball with one really good draft!

Thank you Jo…

Ahhhhh fvck it!

[BurntDice]

22 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

So Shanahan is > belicheck? Asking for a friend

Offensively yes 

[Hael]

In a redraft, I would take Lawrence just barely over Mac gun to the head.. A very long distance away Mills, another good distance away Wilson and then Fields based on what I saw live.  Lance I dont know enough about, I just saw highlights.

Theres a very high bust rate potential in this draft.

[undertow]

The only change in the order would be SF would have taken Jones and Lance would have gone a few spots later...Lawrence didn't look like the generational talent he was billed as but still would go 1.

[WestCoastMole]

It's still too early to get a feel for this Class. Jones was landed on the best team and had the best season of the bunch. But his performance in the playoff game Saturday Night showed the team was carrying him.

Trevor Lawrence landed in the worst situation and looked crappy most of the season until the last game of the season when he put on an impressive performance. It's a shame there there will be a new Coaching Staff in Jacksonville next. That will set things back for him.

Zach Wilson was the tale of two Seasons. He got off to a shaky start and looked overwhelmed by the pace of the game early in the season. In the last 5 games Zach showed excellent progress and looked to be in control. I expect his development to continue over the winter.

Trey Lance needs more reps. Platooning with Jimmy G is not the answer. Until Lance gets a full season as a starter we'll never know what he is capable of.

David Mills I don't know much about. I don't follow the Bears

[Ray Ryan]

Zach Wilson = Kellen Clemens the glorified version

 

 

keep trying to convince yourselves we didn’t set ourselves back another 5 years

[TuscanyTile2]

Mac is a game manager type guy.  If the pats have the option to go to Jimmy G next year I wouldn’t be surprised if they dump Mac or make him the backup. 

[32EBoozer]

6 hours ago, LSJF said:

Mac Jones has the best organization behind him, but if Mac has a short ceiling Bill may want more out of his QB physically like these other successful qb’s around the league…so he might be gone eventually even though he had the best year, controlled heavily by his staff…

I will say this; despite my feelings for the Pats, that kid made a few very nice throws last night. Even that incredible pick was a perfect ball. He even looked good moving around the pocket. 
That said, Zach’s arm talent and athleticism  is undeniably superior. Put Jones’ head on Zach’s body and you’re a complete Qb. 

[TuscanyTile2]

7 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

I will say this; despite my feelings for the Pats, that kid made a few very nice throws last night. Even that incredible pick was a perfect ball. He even looked good moving around the pocket. 
That said, Zach’s arm talent and athleticism  is undeniably superior. Put Jones’ head on Zach’s body and you’re a complete Qb. 

The pick was underthrown. And it was a very nice INT but I think Micah Hyde is getting too much credit with people saying it was incredible.  NFL DBs can catch over-the-shoulder.

Mac put up GT points 

[32EBoozer]

3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

The pick was underthrown. And it was a very nice INT but I think Micah Hyde is getting too much credit with people saying it was incredible.  NFL DBs can catch over-the-shoulder.

Mac put up GT points 

I’m not talking points. I’m talking about some particular throws that were impressive. You could nitpick that it needed 1 additional yard of air but from 35 yards out and Aghalor never breaking stride…. That was a dime. Great play by Hyde. 

[Sammybighead]

I love the fact that we're staring at an entire off season of trying to analyze and project all the rookie qbs based on irrelevant rookie stats

[GangGreened]

I’m impressed with Mills. Worse team than Wilson and significantly better season 

[NYJets43]

4 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

I’m impressed with Mills. Worse team than Wilson and significantly better season 

He throws the best deep ball in the class. 

[GangGreened]

5 minutes ago, NYJets43 said:

He throws the best deep ball in the class. 

I thought that was supposed to be our QBs thing

[NYJets43]

3 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

I thought that was supposed to be our QBs thing

Zach isn’t accurate with his dee ball. 

[OilfieldJet]

Redraft the 2018 class, at least we have suffice information to make an informed decision. 

[JustInFudge]

If you're going in order of how they played during their rookie season, IMO, it's:

Mills, Jones, Lance, Wilson, Fields, Lawrence.

If you're going on who you would draft in a redraft, I think it's:

Fields/Lance/Lawrence, Mills, Wilson, Jones

Personally, I'm still going on potential in a redraft namely because they all sucked, and this was a very unimpressive rookie class of QB's.  Mills is by far the most impressive considering his results and the situation.  Jones had a nice season in a perfect situation but was exposed down the stretch and I'd gamble on the we've seen his ceiling where I dont eve know if we've seen the floor in these other guys.

 

 

[FidelioJet]

From what I saw...

Wilson, Lawrence, Jones, Mills and Fields..

That's the order is the way I would draft them...

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

Think about what Patriots fans are thinking right now.  Last night they saw a QB with an elite skill set completely dominate their proud defense and while Jones played admirably, they have to know that Jones can never come close to reaching Allen’s (or Mahomes’) level.  Jets fans can at least hope that Zach can be close to that given that he has flashed similar traits as Allen’s — and that’s why Jones was the fifth QB drafted last year and probably would again right now in a re-draft.  It’s just so hard to compete against teams with top 5 QBs like Allen that you have to swing for the fences when using high picks on QBs.

[The Crusher]

10 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

If you're going in order of how they played during their rookie season, IMO, it's:

Mills, Jones, Lance, Wilson, Fields, Lawrence.

If you're going on who you would draft in a redraft, I think it's:

Fields/Lance/Lawrence, Mills, Wilson, Jones

Personally, I'm still going on potential in a redraft namely because they all sucked, and this was a very unimpressive rookie class of QB's.  Mills is by far the most impressive considering his results and the situation.  Jones had a nice season in a perfect situation but was exposed down the stretch and I'd gamble on the we've seen his ceiling where I dont eve know if we've seen the floor in these other guys.

 

 

Are we talking beginning of the first round or the second round?

[maury77]

If I had to redraft based upon what I saw this season, 

Lawrence

Fields

Jones

Wilson

I didn’t see enough of Mills or Lance this year to rank them.

ironically, this was the same order i had prior to this season, except with Lance behind Wilson.

[68JET11]

Nobody knew that JD was going to trade up for AVT, but there were several simulators that I did last year trading away the #2 for a good amount of picks, and being able to grab Mills in the 3rd round.

[Rhg1084]

9 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

I still take Fields and Lance over Jones. Jones proved he can dink and dunk and win games with a great defense and running game.  Mark Sanchez did the same thing but with multiple playoff wins. 

Fields gonna be out the league in a few years