Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 15 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Bwcausss it’s a stupid ******* thing to say it’s not a pee wee football team its about winning footballl games The stupid part is in the interpretation, not in what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: but our organization in particular just wasn’t in a position to take a young, undeveloped QB. Thats ridiculous. What in your mind says a team is in position? We were in a position to go another year with Darnold? You think that Sewel at two would have been a better pick at 2, more value? Why because you dont have to wait for an OL to develop like with a QB? They were at the bottom of the barrel, where in a position to pick any QB not named Lawrence. QB was the only play at two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Thats ridiculous. What in your mind says a team is in position? We were in a position to go another year with Darnold? You think that Sewel at two would have been a better pick at 2, more value? Why because you dont have to wait for an OL to develop like with a QB? They were at the bottom of the barrel, where in a position to pick any QB not named Lawrence. QB was the only play at two. Yeah if we don't have a QB we believe in, and have the opportunity to take one we do, then you don't pass up the opportunity and say, "Meh we'll take one when the timing is a little more ideal." You can't choose when a desired QB prospect is available to you. What if we didn't like anyone this year? What if we liked only 1 guy, but he's getting taken #1 by a QB-needy team, and our 1st pick was down at #8 (or #14)? e.g. the Jets couldn't just draft Mahomes in 2018 instead of 2017 because that timing was thought to be better, and we'd be 1 year into the MacBowles culture-changing endeavor. Take him when we can get him, if we like him that much, and hope he's everything they thought he could be. If he isn't, try again with someone else (whether it's another rookie draftee or a veteran). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: The stupid part is in the interpretation, not in what he said. Why he is so against saying he wants to win a championship? Afraid of the media 32 teams should approach every season like they want to win a supebowl. save me the Culture building antics for some easily manipulated 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Yeah if we don't have a QB we believe in, and have the opportunity to take one we do, then you don't pass up the opportunity and say, "Meh we'll take one when the timing is a little more ideal." You can't choose when a desired QB prospect is available to you. What if we didn't like anyone this year? What if we liked only 1 guy, but he's getting taken #1 by a QB-needy team, and our 1st pick was down at #8 (or #14)? e.g. the Jets couldn't just draft Mahomes in 2018 instead of 2017 because that timing was thought to be better, and we'd be 1 year into the MacBowles culture-changing endeavor. Take him when we can get him, if we like him that much, and hope he's everything they thought he could be. If he isn't, try again with someone else (whether it's another rookie draftee or a veteran). Exactly its not like when you decide its time to draft a QB one will be sitting there to draft. Given his scenario and given what Darnold showed once again in his 4th season we would need a QB now. Especially since we would be in the right position to draft one. Who would that be? Theres isnt a QB out there that warrants using a 4th on him. Maybe next year? Or the year after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: Why he is so against saying he wants to win a championship? Afraid of the media 32 teams should approach every season like they want to win a supebowl. save me the Culture building antics for some easily manipulated Why does the variation of how he said it make one bit of difference to you? You know how many times they've said their goal is to win a championship? Too many times to list. You just havent been paying attention other than the way it was presented one time. What is it, you think hes going to draft differently, deal with FA differently? Stop getting hug up on one throw away line in a presser. You hate JD we get it, stop looking at nonsense to attempt to make your take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 23 hours ago, T0mShane said: He already pushed his chips in on Zach Wilson. There are no more chips. If only Gaze were still here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Exactly its not like when you decide its time to draft a QB one will be sitting there to draft. Given his scenario and given what Darnold showed once again in his 4th season we would need a QB now. Especially since we would be in the right position to draft one. Who would that be? Theres isnt a QB out there that warrants using a 4th on him. Maybe next year? Or the year after? Then again, people said that about Mahomes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 1:12 PM, Larz said: Whoa Whoa next year JD fully expects to possibly be “in the running “ In that case, he should expect an exit visa should that not occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 23 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Inconsistent = 2200 yards his first two seasons and 700 when he was injured 4 games My recollection of him was inconsistent in Oakland. Some great games, some meh. He probably played better in Dallas than I want to give him credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 true the jets need a no. 1 wr but don't forget davis had some physical issues that probably caused him to fade away after a strong start. the same can be said of just about all of the offensive weapons. the te's played okay when they were able to get in the game but both of them just weren't healthy the whole season. carter did pretty well at rb but he missed a few games. there are some good reasons to be optimistic. get the oline straightened out, add a top wr and te and then pull in some depth and this offense could be pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jetscode1 said: My recollection of him was inconsistent in Oakland. Some great games, some meh. He probably played better in Dallas than I want to give him credit. Remember he wasn’t playing for a consistently good team also. I think if you can get him for the right price he really could change things here. I think he’s that dynamic a player. And isn’t a real pain in the ass like an OBJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 1:02 PM, T0mShane said: He already pushed his chips in on Zach Wilson. There are no more chips. Can we up the ante? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDecker Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Thank you Woody for stating what many of us are thinking after that AFC Divisional round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, rangerous said: true the jets need a no. 1 wr but don't forget davis had some physical issues that probably caused him to fade away after a strong start. the same can be said of just about all of the offensive weapons. the te's played okay when they were able to get in the game but both of them just weren't healthy the whole season. carter did pretty well at rb but he missed a few games. there are some good reasons to be optimistic. get the oline straightened out, add a top wr and te and then pull in some depth and this offense could be pretty good. Seems like quite a lot to add for a reward of "[then they] could be pretty good" there, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Seems like quite a lot to add for a reward of "[then they] could be pretty good" there, no? i'm trying not to be too optimistic. they certainly can't go into next season with real jags on the oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 12:01 AM, Saul Goodman said: In 2020 Wirfs. in 2021, I wanted Chase, Pitts or Sewell, or the trade down package Miami got from the 49ers. I don’t know if Zach would succeed anywhere but our organization in particular just wasn’t in a position to take a young, undeveloped QB. For the record, I really like Zach, he’s a great kid and I usually find myself defending him (or at least his character and work ethic) in the Jets Facebook groups. that' fair re 2020. that was the decision at that point. but we'd be looking for a qb this coming year. nothing in the draft i hear. so back to the issue. get a mediocre qb for this coming year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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