*** NFL Gameday 01/30 *** Road to the super bowl ***

[HawkeyeJet]

10 minutes ago, maury77 said:

Ironically, I think Jimmy G is Wilson's ceiling. 

I would say in that neighborhood, but I’d say a bit north of that.  I think Wilson is a better athlete and has a better arm.  I was trying to think the other day who Wilson’s best case scenario might be after watching this year.  It’s hard to say.  Kirk Cousins maybe?  It’s tough. Alex Smith?  Jimmy G is probably about right though.

[Peace Frog]

18 minutes ago, DoubleDecker said:

I know it sounds crazy, but id at least kick the tires on OBJ.

We can kick as hard as we want. He’s wanted to be in LA since he was drafted by the Giants. He finagled his way there, he’s not leaving. 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

16 minutes ago, maury77 said:

Ironically, I think Jimmy G is Wilson's ceiling. 

And you can tell that already after 12 games.  Amazing.  

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I would say in that neighborhood, but I’d say a bit north of that.  I think Wilson is a better athlete and has a better arm.  I was trying to think the other day who Wilson’s best case scenario might be after watching this year.  It’s hard to say.  Kirk Cousins maybe?  It’s tough. Alex Smith?  Jimmy G is probably about right though.

They are different players.  Wilson wants to drive the ball downfield more.  Jimmy g is more of a sustained drive guy.  

[fullblast]

Browns fans just having an all around bad day

[munchmemory]

1 minute ago, Peace Frog said:

We can kick as hard as we want. He’s wanted to be in LA since he was drafted by the Giants. He finagled his way there, he’s not leaving. 

If the Rams win the SB and OBJ plays well?  He'll get 10-12 TV/film development deals.   No way he's leaving LA.

[munchmemory]

1 minute ago, fullblast said:

Browns fans just having an all around bad day

And the Giants.

[Skeet Ulrich]

And this is why you don’t trust QBs like Garoppolo. Give him an elite offensive line, an elite offensive play-caller, an elite skill position group and an elite defense, and he can only go as far as his team can carry him. He doesn't make them better, he holds them back. Meanwhile, Joe Burrow is in the Super Bowl with a terrible offensive line and a defense ranking 19th in DVOA.

If there's one lesson to take from this game and these entire playoffs, it's that elite QBs elevate flawed teams while average QBs limit great ones.

[maury77]

3 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I would say in that neighborhood, but I’d say a bit north of that.  I think Wilson is a better athlete and has a better arm.  I was trying to think the other day who Wilson’s best case scenario might be after watching this year.  It’s hard to say.  Kirk Cousins maybe?  It’s tough. Alex Smith?  Jimmy G is probably about right though.

I agree. I think Wilson is more “toolsy” than Jimmy G, but caliber of player wise, I think that’s the ceiling.

[RedBeardedSavage]

Aaron Donald against that Bengals offensive line.




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[usapaw]

2 minutes ago, undertow said:

I would be surprise if it was more then a FG neither team is great.

Not the style of football that I like, but this is what the NFL wants and it is exciting.

A little too college. Player centric, not team; not for me. Rams might be buying a title. It is what it is. Maybe that is what the JETs did in the AFL and I was just too young and naive to see it.  

[maury77]

4 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

And you can tell that already after 12 games.  Amazing.  

Just put me on ignore, trust me, you’re life will be better for it.

[fullblast]

16 minutes ago, jetsons said:

I'm hearing that's Harbaughs.

 

I don’t see Harbaugh co-existing with Grier but who knows.

[undertow]

5 minutes ago, usapaw said:

Not the style of football that I like, but this is what the NFL wants and it is exciting.

A little too college. Player centric, not team; not for me. Rams might be buying a title. It is what it is. Maybe that is what the JETs did in the AFL and I was just too young and naive to see it.  

Yeah it does feel like that....there was a few epic games but most of this playoff season has been sloppy football by average teams.

[Peace Frog]

11 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

If the Rams win the SB and OBJ plays well?  He'll get 10-12 TV/film development deals.   No way he's leaving LA.

Nope. 

[fullblast]

14 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I would say in that neighborhood, but I’d say a bit north of that.  I think Wilson is a better athlete and has a better arm.  I was trying to think the other day who Wilson’s best case scenario might be after watching this year.  It’s hard to say.  Kirk Cousins maybe?  It’s tough. Alex Smith?  Jimmy G is probably about right though.

I think Derek Carr on a good day is about it.

[Maynard13]

30 minutes ago, DoubleDecker said:

OBJ, Burks/Cooper/Ridley, Berrios, and Moore would be electric!

Where's Mims?

[Jetlife33]

Kyle Shanahan constantly blows double digit leads. 

[FootballLove]

[jetsons]

11 minutes ago, fullblast said:

I don’t see Harbaugh co-existing with Grier but who knows.

If things don't go well this year maybe Grier is the next shoe to fall ala gase/maccagnan

[fullblast]

Say what you will about OBJ but this is pretty cool

 

[jetstream23]

3 minutes ago, fullblast said:

Say what you will about OBJ but this is pretty cool

 

what I will say is that his dad’s Twitter rant about Mayfield a few months ago got OBJ to the Super Bowl. 

[Peace Frog]

7 minutes ago, fullblast said:

Say what you will about OBJ but this is pretty cool

 

LA agrees with him. He’s now just a great football player and not the a-hole from years past. 

[Green Ghost]

38 minutes ago, fullblast said:

I think Derek Carr on a good day is about it.

That’s a pretty optimistic outlook imo.

I think the Jets would be thrilled if he came close to what Derek Carr has done.

[Green Ghost]

33 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

Kyle Shanahan constantly blows double digit leads. 

Someone should tell Shanahan when your beard has turned grey it’s well past the time to wear flat rimmed hats.

[Hex]

Turns out Andy Reid wanted to challenge a Joe Mixon fumble, not an illegal formation, but the refs refused to review

https://sports.yahoo.com/andy-reid-asked-officials-review-000103915.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMyLAtSSaWb0FA7jIZqzmMmHcJeohMVvwt5f-zB1dtu30SQphSetBB3luZCJzm5_JSw-g7Thfh6YfO65WvwnDkCquw4knKVGtg20RMm4EMwCpA8UT36em5JWZ7Cy8iQvWtQIkqo6Dv9QLnd0t3LPdmPPpZOkweHLCzJCvhaUsqkJ

boy that's a long URL

[rtnelson]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

But this one did. 

The team carried him that far, and if they made a few more plays they would have carried him to the superbowl.  Do you think I think Jimmy G is a superbowl worthy QB?  Even if he was one play from winning one a few years ago?

Why are you treating this like you think it's all or nothing.  You either have a QB that's great and you're great, or you don't and your team stinks.  It's just not true.

You treat football like it's a singles tennis tournament with everyone but the QB merely relegated to training staff or shoe shiners.

[Maynard13]

16 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

That’s a pretty optimistic outlook imo.

I think the Jets would be thrilled if he came close to what Derek Carr has done.

Say what? Carr sucks. What has he really accomplished. Absolutely nothing. 

[Green Ghost]

1 minute ago, Maynard13 said:

Say what? Carr sucks. What has he really accomplished. Absolutely nothing. 

Stop being a fan boy, and take a look at Carr’s career numbers.

[playtowinthegame]

1 hour ago, Bugg said:

Looked like Niners lost it rather than Rams won it. 

3rd & Goal at SF 3

(6:53 - 1st) (Shotgun) M.Stafford pass short middle intended for C.Kupp INTERCEPTED by J.Ward (K.Williams) at SF 0. J.Ward to SF 23 for 23 yards (R.Havenstein).

 

4th & 8 at SF 36

(1:50 - 2nd) M.Gay 54 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-M.Orzech, Holder-J.Hekker.

 

I see it as Rams almost beat themselves.

[Beerfish]

4 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Say what? Carr sucks. What has he really accomplished. Absolutely nothing. 

There are tons of good qbs that do not accomplish anything....until all of a sudden they do. 

Also every year there is 1 winner and 31 losers in the NFL at seasons end.

[Hal N of Provo]

3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

There are tons of good qbs that do not accomplish anything....until all of a sudden they do. 

Also every year there is 1 winner and 31 losers in the NFL at seasons end.

Also with the parity almost every playoff team has a chance.  

[WestCoastMole]

34 minutes ago, rtnelson said:

The team carried him that far, and if they made a few more plays they would have carried him to the superbowl.  Do you think I think Jimmy G is a superbowl worthy QB?  Even if he was one play from winning one a few years ago?

Why are you treating this like you think it's all or nothing.  You either have a QB that's great and you're great, or you don't and your team stinks.  It's just not true.

Because Garrapollo has this propensity for making bonehead plays at critical times over and over and over again. And it never gets any better. He nearly handed the Divisional Playoff Game to Green Bay last week. He is the kind of player that keeps both sides in the game. Garrapollo is finished with the 9ers. Its Trey Lance or bust next year. He will either be traded or cut. But don't you worry, there will be some sucky NFL Franchise that will pick him up next year.

[Beerfish]

Garappolo is no world beater but he takes more flake than he should.  He is what he is, a limited guy who cannot win you a game but he has had a lot of success in this league and gone to a super bowl.

Look at our fan base, people fell all over themselves about craptacular mark sanchez for two or three years.

Jimmy G beat a 12 win and 13 win team and barely lost this last game.  His last gaff looks pretty bad but stattord handed a free int that was dropped and mahommes handed the game to the bengals with an int.

Jimmy G will be gone in favor of lance no doubt.

[Maynard13]

28 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

There are tons of good qbs that do not accomplish anything....until all of a sudden they do. 

Also every year there is 1 winner and 31 losers in the NFL at seasons end.

Yea ok but Zach’s ceiling has to be better than what Carr has produced. He’s just an average QB. Good guy but there’s a lot of good guys in the league who just aren’t elite.