yvj Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 It has to be a part of the game plan from now on. In hindsight, it seems incredible there were no designed plays for him to run. It's not like he is a statue back there. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 It has to be a part of the game plan from now on. In hindsight, it seems incredible there were no designed plays for him to run. It's not like he is a statue back there. He’ll die. Possibly quite literally. He’s diminutive in stature. His legs should be used to get away from trouble, never as a runner like Mahomes or Allen.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, yvj said: It has to be a part of the game plan from now on. In hindsight, it seems incredible there were no designed plays for him to run. It's not like he is a statue back there. They did it right the last few games. No need to push the issue for an extra 30 yards a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, yvj said: It has to be a part of the game plan from now on. In hindsight, it seems incredible there were no designed plays for him to run. It's not like he is a statue back there. He averaged like 15 yards per game which is pretty good for a QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Snell41 said: He’ll die. Possibly quite literally. He’s diminutive in stature. His legs should be used to get away from trouble, never as a runner like Mahomes or Allen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I understand what you're saying but there could be designed runs that are relatively safe for QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peace Frog Posted January 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Snell41 said: He’ll die. Possibly quite literally. He’s diminutive in stature. His legs should be used to get away from trouble, never as a runner like Mahomes or Allen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Hahahahaaaaa you’re consistent if nothing else. Same size as Rogers, bigger than Brees Murray Baker blah blah blah. Haters going to hate. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, yvj said: It has to be a part of the game plan from now on. In hindsight, it seems incredible there were no designed plays for him to run. It's not like he is a statue back there. LaFleur needs to dial up some RPO for Zach. He is never going to be Josh Allen, but he doesn't have to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Snell41 said: He’ll die. Possibly quite literally. He’s diminutive in stature. His legs should be used to get away from trouble, never as a runner like Mahomes or Allen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I understand what you're saying but there could be designed runs that are relatively safe for QB. Until Zach can learn to be trusted to do the right thing out there in all phases mentally I wouldn’t ever want him on designed runs if I had any faith in him becoming a long term QB for us. Me personally, I think he sucks so I mean yeah let’s run the wishbone ?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Snell41 said: He’ll die. Possibly quite literally. He’s diminutive in stature. His legs should be used to get away from trouble, never as a runner like Mahomes or Allen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Mahomes is 6’3’ 230 Wilson 6’2’ 215 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Hahahahaaaaa you’re consistent if nothing else. Same size as Rogers, bigger than Brees Murray Baker blah blah blah. Haters going to hate. [/url] Kyler Murray is built like a brick sh*thouse. Drew Brees wouldn’t have much of a career if he tried running either. Rodgers I’ll give you in terms of size, but Rodgers is also incredibly intelligent. Zach, not so much.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, shuler82 said: Mahomes is 6’3’ 230 Wilson 6’2’ 215 Aaron Rogers is 6-2 225. Zach is 6-2 and will be at 225 in 2 years. The dudes a troll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peace Frog Posted January 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Snell41 said: but Rodgers is also incredibly intelligent. Zach, not so much. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app It’s funny you talking about relative intelligence. You can’t even shut off your iPhone signature. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Oh, and Kyler Murray sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 It’s funny you talking about relative intelligence. You can’t even shut off your iPhone signature. I haven’t felt the need to. Does it bother you? Oh and to your other post, yes Kyler is not a good QB. He has the legs and physical build to compensate. Zach doesn’t. You really wanna see Zach Wilson running like Josh Allen? You love the guy, that’s really what you wanna see? I’m with you, we should run him a lot! See, we agree!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Kyler Murray is built like a brick sh*thouse. Drew Brees wouldn’t have much of a career if he tried running either. Rodgers I’ll give you in terms of size, but Rodgers is also incredibly intelligent. Zach, not so much. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Everyone who interviewed him predraft listed intelligence as a strength. This will age as well as the JN takes he’s not elusive or athletic lol 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The op is correct, you need to make defense pay and run when you can, you have to make them defend everything, If there are gaping holes to run for and you do not do it you doing the D a huge favor .....oh and saying a qb has to run does not mean you have to take huge shots all the time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Snell41 said: I haven’t felt the need to. Does it bother you? Oh and to your other post, yes Kyler is not a good QB. He has the legs and physical build to compensate. Zach doesn’t. You really wanna see Zach Wilson running like Josh Allen? You love the guy, that’s really what you wanna see? I’m with you, we should run him a lot! See, we agree! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Holee hyperbole. Where have you seen ANYONE say we want him to run like Josh Allen. So silly. So stupid. We get it, you hate the QB of the New York Jets. Pathetic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: Everyone who interviewed him predraft listed intelligence as a strength. This will age as well as the JN takes he’s not elusive or athletic lol He’s a troll. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Beerfish said: The op is correct, you need to make defense pay and run when you can, you have to make them defend everything, If there are gaping holes to run for and you do not do it you doing the D a huge favor .....oh and saying a qb has to run does not mean you have to take huge shots all the time. I think against Jacksonville they discovered Zach could run for free against man. Tampa tried to avoid that look. That’s good stuff but don’t call it, just take it when it’s there IMO 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Until Zach can learn to be trusted to do the right thing out there in all phases mentally I wouldn’t ever want him on designed runs if I had any faith in him becoming a long term QB for us. Me personally, I think he sucks so I mean yeah let’s run the wishbone ? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app This makes no sense. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 He has been using his legs, just in the wrong direction 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: It’s funny you talking about relative intelligence. You can’t even shut off your iPhone signature. This might be the funniest thing I've ever read here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: This makes no sense. It’s his schtick. Makes total sense. To him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snell41 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Holee hyperbole. Where have you seen ANYONE say we want him to run like Josh Allen. So silly. So stupid. We get it, you hate the QB of the New York Jets. Pathetic. I don’t hate him at all, he seems like a very nice Kid. I love my Jets, and I just think he sucks at QB. Listen buddy, I’m older. I went through all the motions supporting duds like Pennington, Sanchez, Geno…. Even tried for Darnold for a while. I knew they sucked, knew there was no way any of them were going to be a consistent stud in the NFL. But there I was just like you defending the indefensible, fighting for what I knew was the wrong side of the battle because I was praying please let this be the one, please please just this once. But now buddy I don’t have the time. Every rebuild shaves 3-5 years off our chances. They add up, and when I clearly see what I’m looking at is basically a Squier Stratocaster guitar that’s dressed all nice too look like the real thing, but in the end it’s it’s still a cheap knockoff. We’ll see in a couple years either way. I hope I’m wrong, but I promise you I’m not.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Bounce Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, Snell41 said: He’ll die. Possibly quite literally. He’s diminutive in stature. His legs should be used to get away from trouble, never as a runner like Mahomes or Allen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 36 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Kyler Murray is built like a brick sh*thouse. Drew Brees wouldn’t have much of a career if he tried running either. Rodgers I’ll give you in terms of size, but Rodgers is also incredibly intelligent. Zach, not so much. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.How did I move the goal posts? Rodgers is diminutive as well. When he uses his legs you can trust he’s intelligent enough to not get himself killed. I don’t trust Zach to do the same at all, you?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Zach was always using his legs, magically, to escape pass rushers. Towards the end of the season, he was using his legs to pick up first downs. Darnold never learned that… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 He really started to post injury and he did it really well. As he keeps the momentum going next year it’s going to be big. There’s always 3-4 first downs sitting there for the taking every game - Zach will be able to go get them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, yvj said: It has to be a part of the game plan from now on. In hindsight, it seems incredible there were no designed plays for him to run. It's not like he is a statue back there. He did more in the latter part of the season. However you don’t want to get him injured, I would limit designed runs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, Snell41 said: I don’t hate him at all, he seems like a very nice Kid. I love my Jets, and I just think he sucks at QB. Listen buddy, I’m older. I went through all the motions supporting duds like Pennington, Sanchez, Geno…. Even tried for Darnold for a while. I knew they sucked, knew there was no way any of them were going to be a consistent stud in the NFL. But there I was just like you defending the indefensible, fighting for what I knew was the wrong side of the battle because I was praying please let this be the one, please please just this once. But now buddy I don’t have the time. Every rebuild shaves 3-5 years off our chances. They add up, and when I clearly see what I’m looking at is basically a Squier Stratocaster guitar that’s dressed all nice too look like the real thing, but in the end it’s it’s still a cheap knockoff. We’ll see in a couple years either way. I hope I’m wrong, but I promise you I’m not. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Blahblahblah. Did not read it. Yeah. You hate him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Blahblahblah. Did not read it. Yeah. You hate him. I hate that he’s the QB of the Jets, absolutely. He’s gonna have a wonderful life, he was even before he was a Jet. When he’s old he’ll be able to tell kids he was in the league for a few years and his kids will run his car dealership empire in Utah. I’m gonna keep my signature by the way, just for you.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, Snell41 said: I don’t hate him at all, he seems like a very nice Kid. I love my Jets, and I just think he sucks at QB. Listen buddy, I’m older. I went through all the motions supporting duds like Pennington, Sanchez, Geno…. Even tried for Darnold for a while. I knew they sucked, knew there was no way any of them were going to be a consistent stud in the NFL. But there I was just like you defending the indefensible, fighting for what I knew was the wrong side of the battle because I was praying please let this be the one, please please just this once. But now buddy I don’t have the time. Every rebuild shaves 3-5 years off our chances. They add up, and when I clearly see what I’m looking at is basically a Squier Stratocaster guitar that’s dressed all nice too look like the real thing, but in the end it’s it’s still a cheap knockoff. We’ll see in a couple years either way. I hope I’m wrong, but I promise you I’m not. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app You gave up on this one way too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Snell41 said: I hate that he’s the QB of the Jets, absolutely. He’s gonna have a wonderful life, he was even before he was a Jet. When he’s old he’ll be able to tell kids he was in the league for a few years and his kids will run his car dealership empire in Utah. I’m gonna keep my signature by the way, just for you. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app So you enjoy being a troll. I will allow this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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