Joe Willie White Shoes Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I posted this in another thread, but it deserves its own thread. This narrative that the Jets rebuild is taking too long because the Bengals made the SB this season is just misplaced. This narrative doesn't work with the Bengals as an example. The Bengals don't have a "GM." The owner, Mike Brown, is the GM. He has been the owner and GM since 1991 - 31 years. So this is not a 2-year rebuild. Brown has been rebuilding for 31 years. Brown has been criticized for decades for just about everything, but mainly for his refusal to hire a GM and for being cheap (the Bengals have one of the smallest and lowest budget scouting departments in the NFL). Should JD get 31 years too? In those 31 years, the Bengals did not win a single solitary playoff game until this season. They had not played in a playoff game since 2015. Zach Taylor, the head coach, was 6-25-1 in his first two seasons. Saleh is likely to win more games by the end of September 2022. The only thing that happened two years ago that was new was drafting Burrow with the #1 pick after stinking it up with a new coaching staff - but the same ole front office - in 2018. So the GM has been there for 31 years. The HC has been there for 3 years. In fact, there is nothing similar between the Jets rebuild and the Bengals rebuild at all. Not. One Thing. Except the Bengals were smart enough to actually get the first pick when they stunk in 2019 and the Jets won two - count em- meaningless late season games in 2020 and lost out on that #1 pick. This isn't year 2 of anything for the Bengals except the QB, for whatever that means. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Not exactly true. However he got there he has shown that if you draft a QB give him weapons. Lots of them. Elite first rounders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Not exactly true. However he got there he has shown that if you draft a QB give him weapons. Lots of them. Elite first rounders. Higgins was an early 2nd round pick. So was Moore. Boyd is a veteran drafted in round 2 in 2016. Davis was drafted in the first round in 2017. Uzomah was a 5th round pick and Sample a 2nd. Chase was drafted with the #5 pick in 2021. If the Jets draft a receiver with pick 4 or 10, or sign one of the top free agents, and sign or draft a TE in rounds 2-5, they have provided Wilson with comparable weapons. The Jets have invested more in the OL than the Bengals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Mixon, Uzomah doesn’t hurt. We currently have one player, Elijah Moore, who if he was healthy might have a shot of getting on the field with that group. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The Bengals have a mediocre defense and a shaky offensive line they are in the Super Bowl because they drafted a top 5 QB and drafted 2 stud WRs over the past two years everything else is nonsense. I'm not sure what the point is here is it that you don't want any expectations for the team for another 30 years? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 Of course they are not a comparator. They are trying and do win games. Not the goal for the Jets. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The Jets are a monster draft away from competing next year for a playoff spot. They are two monster drafts away from being in the conversation for the Super Bowl in 2023. I'm not saying that it will happen or is likely to happen, but this league is get rich quick with the acquisition of just a few elite players. A healthy Joe Burrow throwing to Chase, Higgins, Boyd, and Uzomah, and handing off to Joe Mixon goes a long way. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Of course they are not a comparator. They are trying and do win games. Not the goal for the Jets. What is the point of this type of post? In what world are the Jets not trying to win? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: The Jets are a monster draft away from competing next year for a playoff spot. They are two monster drafts away from being in the conversation for the Super Bowl in 2023. I'm not saying that it will happen or is likely to happen, but this league is get rich quick with the acquisition of just a few elite players. A healthy Joe Burrow throwing to Chase, Higgins, Boyd, and Uzomah, and handing off to Joe Mixon goes a long way. Joe Mixon has been a disappointment until this season. The stars aligned for the Bengals this season, starting with about 5 games to go in the season. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Joe Mixon has been a disappointment until this season. The stars aligned for the Bengals this season, starting with about 5 games to go in the season. I'm not sure if a guy who rushed for over 1,100 yards two times before this year is considered a disappointment. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: What is the point of this type of post? In what world are the Jets not trying to win? You haven't been reading this forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: What is the point of this type of post? In what world are the Jets not trying to win? NFL games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenseed4 Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 So, “comparator” is a word. I looked it up. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Low expectation havin ass fanbase 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Mixon, Uzomah doesn’t hurt. We currently have one player, Elijah Moore, who if he was healthy might have a shot of getting on the field with that group.Including QB. Let’s not forget that small note. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I mean the difference between the teams is that Joe Burrow looks like one of the next great QBs and Zach Wilson looked completely lost for most of his rookie year. Obviously the teams aren't that far away from each other outside of that factor. The Jets literally beat the Bengals this year in one of the few games when they got quality QB play. Ja'Mar Chase, sure. But the Bengals got lucky enough to have the worst record when there was a stud coming out. Jets got the 2nd worst record in the year there was (allegedly) a stud coming out and ended up with Zach Wilson. Such is our lot in life. That said, in broad terms, I don't know how any Jets fan can't be somewhat inspired by the fact that the Bengals are in the Super Bowl. They're one of a very small handful of teams (Lions, Browns, etc.) who have been significantly further away from sniffing the Super Bowl that we have been. There's definitely a bit of "if they can do, why not us?" in the air. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Joe Mixon has been a disappointment until this season. The stars aligned for the Bengals this season, starting with about 5 games to go in the season. disappointment? minus his rookie year and last year (due to injury) he's been a 1000 yd back. add in the 2-300 yd receiving yds, he's mighty productive. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 They got Burrow, Chase and Higgins. Moore might get to that level. Mims definitely wont. Zach has a long way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Comparator? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: They got Burrow, Chase and Higgins. Moore might get to that level. Mims definitely wont. Zach has a long way to go. Boyd would be our best WR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Why do dah Jets fans think everything has to have a relationship to dah Jets? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The contrast between just the QBs is striking. Burrow is a true alpha and commands the room. Zach hasn’t shown to be anything close to that. Burrow is more physically imposing than Zach. They couldn’t be more opposite. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: The contrast between just the QBs is striking. Burrow is a true alpha and commands the room. Zach hasn’t shown to be anything close to that. Burrow is more physically imposing than Zach. They couldn’t be more opposite. And Burrows arm and athleticism are nowhere near Zach Wilson. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: The contrast between just the QBs is striking. Burrow is a true alpha and commands the room. Zach hasn’t shown to be anything close to that. Burrow is more physically imposing than Zach. They couldn’t be more opposite. Meh. Yes - they could be more opposite. I think it’s a bit unfair to compare Zach after 1 year to Burrow after 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 How does the saying go....even a blind squirrel can eventually find a QB - even if it takes 31 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Jets1958 said: Meh. Yes - they could be more opposite. I think it’s a bit unfair to compare Zach after 1 year to Burrow after 2 years. Burrow was the alpha in his rookie year though. He came into the league that way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Why do dah Jets fans think everything has to have a relationship to dah Jets? Pretty sure that's not what he's saying. He's saying they're not a flux capacitor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 So what your point again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Low expectation havin ass owner(s) Fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Joe Mixon has been a disappointment until this season. The stars aligned for the Bengals this season, starting with about 5 games to go in the season. Ok, I can't take any more of this. Are you freaking crazy saying this let alone posting this. What is the issue here? Any time someone says anything that puts your precious JD or Wilson in a dark place, you come out and spout something rediculous. The Bengals have not been rebuilding for 31 years. They made the playoffs in 2015. How is this a 31 year rebuild when you made the playoffs less than 10 years ago. Playing in the SB is not a sign a rebuild ends. It is the goal but getting g your team to the playoffs is and should be the main goal, winning the division is also a goal. The Bengals were nowhere near any of that 2 years ago. Drafting a QB #1 overall and starting him out of the gate is a definite sign that you are tearing it all down and starting over. And to say Mixon has been a disappointment until now just means you have no idea what you are talking about. If it wasn't for injuries he probably has 1000 rushing yards every year in his career except for when he was a rookie playing behind Hill. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Burrow was the alpha in his rookie year though. He came into the league that way. They are worlds apart in the way holds themselves up currently on the field... the only defense one can muster in that respect is that Burrow got to hang out at Ohio State, and then compete in the SEC... A far cry from the exposure/growing up Babyface Wilson had. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: And Burrows arm and athleticism are nowhere near Zach Wilson. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. There is nothing wrong with Burrows arm or athleticism. Jackson has the most of both. How did this season go for him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Doofus owner, chronically underachieving team, occasional glimpses of sunlight then right back into the darkness. Sounds like the Bengals/Jets to me. First cousins at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 How about every single situation is different in the nfl and it’s almost impossible to compare team to team, and stupid to do so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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