playtowinthegame Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Sean McVay's Rams and Kyle Shanahan's 49ers are like a head coaching factories....with everything tracing back to Mike Shanahan. You got the Super Bowl with Zac Taylor who was Sean McVay's QB coach going up against Sean McVay's Rams. Kevin O'Connell to the Vikings Mike McDaniel to the Dolphins Robert Saleh with the Jets Brandon Staley with the Chargers Matt Lafleur with the Packers How long until Mike Lafleur leaves the Jets for a HC job? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: Didn't know he was bi-racial. Thay probably canceled out any racism argument It’s honestly hard to tell from looking at him but his father is black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Sean McVay's Rams and Kyle Shanahan's 49ers are like a head coaching factories....with everything tracing back to Mike Shanahan. You got the Super Bowl with Zac Taylor who was Sean McVay's QB coach going up against Sean McVay's Rams. Kevin O'Connell to the Vikings Mike McDaniel to the Dolphins Robert Saleh with the Jets Brandon Staley with the Chargers Matt Lafleur with the Packers How long until Mike Lafleur leaves the Jets for a HC job? Do they all play the same defense or is it just the west coast type offense that they have in common? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Didn't see if anybody has mentioned it yet, but that's the 9th HC the dolphins have hired with 0 previous HC experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, docdhc said: It’s honestly hard to tell from looking at him but his father is black. His parent's wedding picture is floating around twitter. Ridiculous that people need this type of verification, but it is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 LOL at this hire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Ross is the only owner I deem more incompetent than Woody Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Honestly, this is not going to look very good. They fired a black guy who had a successful season for a white guy with no HC experience. is Flores really black? the last name sounds Hispanic. i know there are blacks in Honduras. but the name suggests hes not. i was just listening to Bart Scott say that because McDaniel is half black it doesnt count cause he looks white. SMH just like last year people were saying that Saleh doesnt really count cause hes not the minority they want. thats why there going to have to change the language in the Rooney Rule to African Americans and not minorities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, doitny said: is Flores really black? the last name sounds Hispanic. i know there are blacks in Honduras. but the name suggests hes not. i was just listening to Bart Scott say that because McDaniel is half black it doesnt count cause he looks white. SMH just like last year people were saying that Saleh doesnt really count cause hes not the minority they want. thats why there going to have to change the language in the Rooney Rule to African Americans and not minorities. Yea he is from Honduras. Lots of latinos are black or partly black though. Changing the language to AA or descendants of black Americans would exclude Flores. But it may not exclude McDaniels. Getting really complicated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Jet Nut said: What's the difference if the fins want the same type players and are outside of the division? Supply and demand. I'm simply stating that there's now an additional team that will likely want the same types of players, particularly offensive linemen, that the Jets need in order to make the system work well. We've already discussed over the past year how there are some unique skillsets needed if you want to run this outside/wide ZBS really, really well.... as in the way SF has run it, particularly in terms of turning some very pedestrian RBs into guys who average 4.7 yards per carry. The supply of these players isn't really increasing, but the demand obviously is. I'm not sounding an alarm over this or anything, simply making an observation. It will be interesting to watch the Dolphins in FA and the Draft, and the types of personnel that McDaniel pursues. And it's not just OLinemen but what does Miami do about the TE position and Gieseke? Will they be hunting the mid/late rounds for the next Kyle Juszczyk, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 5:06 PM, bla bla bla said: Outside the box is a good way to describe this hire. Dude looks like he should be at a Magic: the Gathering tournament. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 8 hours ago, HessStation said: LOL at this hire Until he pulls a Rain Man and eviscerates the competition through Jedi mind tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 9 hours ago, playtowinthegame said: How long until Mike Lafleur leaves the Jets for a HC job? If Mike LaFleur gets a HC job (he hasn't even gotten HC interviews yet as far as I know) then that can only mean one thing. The Jets are something like a Top 10 offense and Zach Wilson has become a huge success. McDaniel was just in the NFC Championship Game and has been to a Super Bowl. O'Connell is in the Super Bowl right now. Daboll was in the AFC Championship Game. All these guys are getting opportunities because of huge success and getting more out of their QBs than people might have expected. LaFleur improving the Jets from the #27 offense to the #15 won't be enough. So yes, let's hope that LaFleur is getting HC offers in 2024. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 12 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Supply and demand. I'm simply stating that there's now an additional team that will likely want the same types of players, particularly offensive linemen, that the Jets need in order to make the system work well. We've already discussed over the past year how there are some unique skillsets needed if you want to run this outside/wide ZBS really, really well.... as in the way SF has run it, particularly in terms of turning some very pedestrian RBs into guys who average 4.7 yards per carry. The supply of these players isn't really increasing, but the demand obviously is. I'm not sounding an alarm over this or anything, simply making an observation. It will be interesting to watch the Dolphins in FA and the Draft, and the types of personnel that McDaniel pursues. And it's not just OLinemen but what does Miami do about the TE position and Gieseke? Will they be hunting the mid/late rounds for the next Kyle Juszczyk, etc? And again, whats the difference to supply and demand if theyre inside or outside of the division? Theres more than enough players to meet the demand of OL who fit a zone blocking system. I cant see worrying about it at this point. Plus lets see if they even run the same systems now that they've left Shanahan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 AMAZING how many threads in the past few weeks have turned to the issue of color in the hiring process. Given how the last bunch have all turned out: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 17 hours ago, doitny said: is Flores really black? the last name sounds Hispanic. Of course he's Black lol Hispanic is an ethnicity, has nothing to do with race/skin color. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 19 hours ago, HessStation said: Ross is the only owner I deem more incompetent than Woody Johnson. Shahid Khan says hello. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Well who wins more games this year? Jets or rookie bong shula? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Shahid Khan says hello. Dan Snyder knocking at the door 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Dan Snyder knocking at the door He's already ensconced in the foyer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 If McDaniels hires Fangio, in 2023 or before the Dolphins will be a force to reckon with. Arguably McDaniels is an upgrade over Lafleur, and Fangio is an upgrade over Saleh/Ulbrich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 6:57 AM, Ben Had said: Fangio as DC New coach Mike McDaniel, Dolphins pursuing former Broncos coach Vic Fangio for defensive coordinator job - Orlando Sentine I thought they wanted to keep the defensive staff that was in place? Would be a good idea for a first year coordinator as a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said: I thought they wanted to keep the defensive staff that was in place? Would be a good idea for a first year coordinator as a HC. The good news for the Jets in the short term is that the Dolphins appear to be switching from a Parcells/Henning/BB style offense/defense to the West Coast/Shanahan/Carroll style. That means a good amount of their roster will not be good fits for the offense and defense they want to run. So I would expect the Dolphins to stink the next year or two. A window for Gang Green.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, varjet said: The good news for the Jets in the short term is that the Dolphins appear to be switching from a Parcells/Henning/BB style offense/defense to the West Coast/Shanahan/Carroll style. That means a good amount of their roster will not be good fits for the offense and defense they want to run. So I would expect the Dolphins to stink the next year or two. A window for Gang Green.... Let’s throw in some forfeiture of draft picks in there as well, hopefully. Would love to see their 2 first in 2023 taken away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Ben Had said: Well who wins more games this year? Jets or rookie bong shula? I need to see what each team does in the draft and FA first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 And so ends the 2 year hiatus of having an IVY league grad among the NFL HCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 7:09 AM, Dunnie said: Owner fires a HC for a better HC .. if this works for them, Flores made the wrong decison with the lawsuit. If McDaniel sh*ts the bed ... look out. Nuthin wrong with upgrading the position. Itll be interesting for sure. The owner has every right to fire whoever he wants. He doesn’t have the right to fire him because he refuses to lose game though. How McD does has nothing to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 8:17 PM, jetstream23 said: The other obvious point is just how well Saleh and LaFleur know McDaniel. Saleh will need to defend against Miami the way other teams try to defend against the Jets. Don't forget that The D's in Buffalo and NE now get to prepare for 4 divisional games against the same O scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Agents for FBs are smiling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Maybe he knows Lance blows and this might be his best opportunity. Anyone that signs with the Dolphins right now must be pretty desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 On 2/7/2022 at 11:55 AM, playtowinthegame said: Sean McVay's Rams and Kyle Shanahan's 49ers are like a head coaching factories....with everything tracing back to Mike Shanahan. You got the Super Bowl with Zac Taylor who was Sean McVay's QB coach going up against Sean McVay's Rams. Kevin O'Connell to the Vikings Mike McDaniel to the Dolphins Robert Saleh with the Jets Brandon Staley with the Chargers Matt Lafleur with the Packers How long until Mike Lafleur leaves the Jets for a HC job? I dont think Lafleur is that close to being a head coach. If everything fell the right way for this offense and him, maybe 2 years from now. We have Calabrese as OC in waiting so if/when it happens, we are prepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Duuuude, I just saw his presser, holy hell! How does someone listen to this guy for 5 seconds and think he’s going to lead a group of football players into battle. This is my prime example of how this fad of hiring genius offensive minds is leading to disaster at HC. These are nerds who can figure out extremely detailed plays, but being a HC requires you to be relatable as a human being and to be the whip when needed. This guy, just like Gase for example, is just awkward and has zero ability to be a HC. Thank God the Dolphins hired him!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Mcdaniel will call plays and be the head coach. Neither has he ever done b4. This sounds like a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Snell41 said: Duuuude, I just saw his presser, holy hell! How does someone listen to this guy for 5 seconds and think he’s going to lead a group of football players into battle. This is my prime example of how this fad of hiring genius offensive minds is leading to disaster at HC. These are nerds who can figure out extremely detailed plays, but being a HC requires you to be relatable as a human being and to be the whip when needed. This guy, just like Gase for example, is just awkward and has zero ability to be a HC. Thank God the Dolphins hired him! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app It was painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 7:06 PM, bla bla bla said: Outside the box is a good way to describe this hire. I have seen him in a few interviews. All I will say is the NY media would eat this guy up. The Dolphins released his call with Tua. It was supposed to be a pump up thing. The coach was stuttering, unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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