Mock draft for all the offensive first people

[The Crusher]

1 minute ago, Larz said:

Yeah I don’t see OT at 4 at all.  
 

However I’m  sure they will know in a month when FA hits what becton weighs.  That will be very telling. 
 

 

I love me some gigantic ness as much as the next guy but damn if the scale is impacting your draft board. Or maybe I’m pissed I didn’t think of that joke first? 

[Beerfish]

Best jets draft i've seen.

Hey would love to get a passrusher at 4 but there isn't one there for us.

I am not taking a friggin safety or CB

Best player is an olineman?  Go for it.  If there is one position to over build it is oline.

And Burks is my #1 choice for our WR.

 

[The Crusher]

5 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

OL at 4 or 10 means you have insurance if Becton is a total bust OR you have Fant and Becton at LT and RT and this rookie at LG and a damn good OL. 
Win win my friend. 

Not arguing that but not sure it’s a win/win considering the other holes on this roster. Line was pretty good if not good enough later in the season before the injuries. I agree the need for depth but number 4 pick should impact the franchise to another level and not necessarily be for another guy for the O line rotation. Would think we could do that on day 2 or even day 3. We honestly need an edge and a receiver more. Our O line was run blocking and pass protecting later in  the year much better than our receivers were getting open and our D line was putting pressure on the QB. Least seem that way to me. 

[Warfish]

3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

And Burks is my #1 choice for our WR.

Currently rated as 5th on the Scouting site I use.

DRAFT PROFILE: BIO

• Treylon Burks was a four-star recruit out of Warren High School Arkansas where as well as setting receiving records also played baseball and basketball to a high level.
• Burks chose to stay local after being heavily recruited joined Arkansas. Burks impressed as a freshman and ended up on the All-SEC freshman team.
• In 2020 Burks began getting national attention where he notched up 820 yds receiving and added 70 on the ground in only nine games - resulting in an All-SEC second-team nod.
• In 2021 Burks exploded whereas of December 1st he has logged 1104 yds in the air with 11 TDs and rushed for additional 112 yds. His 2,399 career receiving yards are the sixth-most in school history.

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS

• Has been used all over the field - including snaps as a back. Could easily adopt a role akin to Deebo Samuel in San Francisco - although he's even bigger
• A dominating deep threat especially over the past two years where we have given him a perfect deep threat grade
• Uses huge frame and long arms to deliver quality, powerful blocks on defensive backs.
• Has enough upper-body strength and tenacity to be very effective as a downfield blocker. Is not shy about taking on his man, provides some pop and will open a running lane for his back at the next level.
• Has huge hands that measure 10.75 inches across. By comparison, the biggest hands wide receiver hands at the 2020 NFL combine was 10 1/2
• Top-shelf balance and the lower-body strength to power through arm tackles. Has very good vision to set up his moves with impressive run-after the- catch ability.
• Creates mismatches for his quarterback with a large frame and long arms. Good body control to shield defenders and understands how to use his size to his advantage.
• Fluid athlete with explosive burst and speed to stretch the field and breeze past defenders. Has a quick first step and gets to top speed in a hurry. Was clocked at an elite 22.6 MPH in week 3 - one of the fastest runs in all of college football
• Burks is a smooth athlete with outstanding size and strength
• Has the size, length, and strength to defeat press jams. Can make the spectacular catch. A decent open-field runner with some agility and the ability to break tackles.
• Shines on vertical routes, eating up a cushion with long strides, and getting downfield before DBs can turn their hips. He has a great combination of size, athleticism, and body control and has been compared to AJ Brown
• Made Bruce Feldman's Freaks list at #53 -- "Burks also is one of the strongest receivers in college football, benching 380 pounds, squatting 500 and power cleaning 320."

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• Does not always use his hands to secure deep throws, allowing the ball into his pads and chest.
• Comes off the snap high and upright, and takes a while to hit top speed
• Not as consistent a blocker you would expect consider his size and strength
• Need to improve his route - tends to short cut and round them off to often
• Doesn't always give 100% on every play
• Hasn't run many different routes at Arkansas and so will enter the NFL very raw
• Has had a problem with drops - may have a concentration issue

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY
A big, physical target with an ideal blend of size, athleticism, and elite speed to take the top off a defense, Burks has locked himself in as a first-round prospect in the 2022 NFL Draft and some view him as having talents similar to DK Metcalf.
The combine will probably decide exactly high on the first day he will hear his name called - where an elite forty-time could propel him into the top 10.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

2 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Not arguing that but not sure it’s a win/win considering the other holes on this roster. Line was pretty good if not good enough later in the season before the injuries. I agree the need for depth but number 4 pick should impact the franchise to another level and not necessarily be for another guy for the O line rotation. Would think we could do that on day 2 or even day 3. We honestly need an edge and a receiver more. Our O line was run blocking and pass protecting later in  the year much better than our receivers were getting open and our D line was putting pressure on the QB. Least seem that way to me. 

If Hutchinson and Thibs are gone, there is no edge rusher (at least right now) that is worth the #4 pick. I've seen Karlaftis dropping to the middle or end of round 1 lately and other edge rushers going more around picks 10 or later.  I've even seen some negative articles about Thibs- although it could be a smokescreen.  Still, you can't draft completely by position and need.  

[extmenace]

I’ve read on a few sites that depending on where ekwonu goes, he could also be drafted to play guard. I kind of like the pick because it would give us some flexibility on the line. If becton can’t handle the LT position, move him to guard and have ekwonu play at LT….or vice versa. I think we would have the pieces to have a great o line, the staff will just need to figure out where each piece fits in.

[Peace Frog]

2 hours ago, bla bla bla said:

I hate that we may spend both firsts on OT and WR, 2 positions I would have considered solidified in August. That being said, I am 100% behind Ekwonu at 4 if the board falls like this. Guy is going to be a mauler at G in the NFL with the flexibility to have more patience with Becton's 5th year option and Fants impending contract after next season. 

 

1 hour ago, BigRy56 said:

Ekwonu produced at a really high level at guard. He can immediately drop into the RG slot and put the OL over the top while also projecting long term at RT or LT.

Whether Becton comes back great or not, it’s a pick that does make a lot of sense. If he flops, there’s your RT and if he comes back strong, Ekwonu replaces Fant when the time comes. He provides a ton of options and so does Neal.

No reaching for a pass rusher at 4. If Thibs or Hutch do not drop, Neal or Ekwonu is the no brainer pick.

For the WR at 10, I’d prefer a veteran option in free agency or a trade. But if we go WR in the draft I think I like Drake London the most. Both guys would open up a new and different element of the offense

 

16 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

OL at 4 or 10 means you have insurance if Becton is a total bust OR you have Fant and Becton at LT and RT and this rookie at LG and a damn good OL. 
Win win my friend. 

 

1 hour ago, Corn said:

If they  solidify The offensive line with the number four pick Joe Douglas Would establish something that the jets have not done in 25 years a dominant line on either side.

 

I agree with all of this.  An Oline of Fant AVT McGovern Ekwonu Bechton would be dominant.  

[Greensleeves]

2 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

I mean they should 100% be taking Hamilton at 4 instead of another OL or trade down for Ojabo

Have we learned nothing from the Jamal Adams fiasco? The NFL has changed. You cannot pay a safety premium money, let alone one that many GM's want to convert to a LB. Best case scenario is the guy is a stud. JD then trades him because a stud safety isn't worth premium money. Only edge should be taken that high on D - otherwise you have to give Zach all the weapons and top tier iineman necessary. Grab lots of D in FA and after the second round - we have plenty of assets.

[Greensleeves]

9 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Not arguing that but not sure it’s a win/win considering the other holes on this roster. Line was pretty good if not good enough later in the season before the injuries. I agree the need for depth but number 4 pick should impact the franchise to another level and not necessarily be for another guy for the O line rotation. Would think we could do that on day 2 or even day 3. We honestly need an edge and a receiver more. Our O line was run blocking and pass protecting later in  the year much better than our receivers were getting open and our D line was putting pressure on the QB. Least seem that way to me. 

I agree, we need edge and receiver - but unless we trade down there isn't an edge if the top two guys are gone, that is worthy of the #4 pick. Another stud lineman helps Zach in a big way. I think we will swing a trade for a WR and edge is very deep, so picking one at 10 or in second round is likely. Another WR and TE is likely too - we have 4 really high picks so we can grab all of them. Also, the top two edge guys are reported to not have gone in the top ten last year AND edge is very deep - could grab a really good one in the second round - after they pick McBride.  

[sec101row23]

39 minutes ago, section314 said:

Very true. In past years, even the top 3-4 guys always went in the same order. Not even that this time. Hope this is where us coaching the SR. Bowl is gonna  pay off.

I think this tweet sums up this current draft class and potential free agent class pretty well.  
 

 

[Doggin94it]

3 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

Honestly, I might have a fit if we take an OL with number 4 unless we do a lot in FA to address the pass rush and run defense.

https://www.fantasypros.com/2022/02/kyle-yates-mock-2022-nfl-draft-2-0/

It's 100% the right move, I'm sorry. Too much uncertainty with Becton and no guaranty Fant takes a deal at a number we like. Take Ike, play him at RG this year and if Becton comes back remotely to form we have an elite OL with him at RT and tackle depth in case of an injury. Then you can let Fant walk for a comp pick and shift Ekwonu or Becton to LT (with the other at RT). If Becton is terrible, you extend Fant and shift Ekwonu to RT. If Fant decides to resign at value and Becton is good, you have an elite OL for the foreseeable future.

[bla bla bla]

37 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Currently rated as 5th on the Scouting site I use.

DRAFT PROFILE: BIO

• Treylon Burks was a four-star recruit out of Warren High School Arkansas where as well as setting receiving records also played baseball and basketball to a high level.
• Burks chose to stay local after being heavily recruited joined Arkansas. Burks impressed as a freshman and ended up on the All-SEC freshman team.
• In 2020 Burks began getting national attention where he notched up 820 yds receiving and added 70 on the ground in only nine games - resulting in an All-SEC second-team nod.
• In 2021 Burks exploded whereas of December 1st he has logged 1104 yds in the air with 11 TDs and rushed for additional 112 yds. His 2,399 career receiving yards are the sixth-most in school history.

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS

• Has been used all over the field - including snaps as a back. Could easily adopt a role akin to Deebo Samuel in San Francisco - although he's even bigger
• A dominating deep threat especially over the past two years where we have given him a perfect deep threat grade
• Uses huge frame and long arms to deliver quality, powerful blocks on defensive backs.
• Has enough upper-body strength and tenacity to be very effective as a downfield blocker. Is not shy about taking on his man, provides some pop and will open a running lane for his back at the next level.
• Has huge hands that measure 10.75 inches across. By comparison, the biggest hands wide receiver hands at the 2020 NFL combine was 10 1/2
• Top-shelf balance and the lower-body strength to power through arm tackles. Has very good vision to set up his moves with impressive run-after the- catch ability.
• Creates mismatches for his quarterback with a large frame and long arms. Good body control to shield defenders and understands how to use his size to his advantage.
• Fluid athlete with explosive burst and speed to stretch the field and breeze past defenders. Has a quick first step and gets to top speed in a hurry. Was clocked at an elite 22.6 MPH in week 3 - one of the fastest runs in all of college football
• Burks is a smooth athlete with outstanding size and strength
• Has the size, length, and strength to defeat press jams. Can make the spectacular catch. A decent open-field runner with some agility and the ability to break tackles.
• Shines on vertical routes, eating up a cushion with long strides, and getting downfield before DBs can turn their hips. He has a great combination of size, athleticism, and body control and has been compared to AJ Brown
• Made Bruce Feldman's Freaks list at #53 -- "Burks also is one of the strongest receivers in college football, benching 380 pounds, squatting 500 and power cleaning 320."

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• Does not always use his hands to secure deep throws, allowing the ball into his pads and chest.
• Comes off the snap high and upright, and takes a while to hit top speed
• Not as consistent a blocker you would expect consider his size and strength
• Need to improve his route - tends to short cut and round them off to often
• Doesn't always give 100% on every play
• Hasn't run many different routes at Arkansas and so will enter the NFL very raw
• Has had a problem with drops - may have a concentration issue

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY
A big, physical target with an ideal blend of size, athleticism, and elite speed to take the top off a defense, Burks has locked himself in as a first-round prospect in the 2022 NFL Draft and some view him as having talents similar to DK Metcalf.
The combine will probably decide exactly high on the first day he will hear his name called - where an elite forty-time could propel him into the top 10.

Burks is deff WR1 for me, he looks like he is just going to impose his will haha but I'm good with any of the top 3. 

[doitny]

2 hours ago, Sammybighead said:

You would have a fit? Seriously?

I’m totally on board for Thibs or hutch being our first pick if they’re available. But if not, what else are you picking? A freaking safety? Did you guys not learn anything (Jamal adams)? A constantly injured CB, did you guys not learn anything (dee milliner)? 

The correct and only answer is keep pouring assets into aiding Zach so he can prove, without a shadow of doubt, that he’s the man or he’s a bust by end of next year (or early 2023). That’s the ONLY THING that matters for this damn team.

We haven’t had winning QB play and a respectable offense in generations. And yet, people still drafting safeties. It hurts my brain.

if Zack needs 3 1st rd picks to protect him then hes not the guy and we need to move on. no other QB needs thats to win

[UntouchableCrew]

I'm surprised at how many are vehemently against OL at 4 given many of those same people have completely sold their Becton stock.

We're almost certainly taking OL or EDGE at 4 and if Hutch and Thibodeaux are gone, prepare yourself.

[IndianaJet]

This board......

For years......FOR YEARS....people whined and complained that we had a terrible oline and the FO just ignored the group in the draft.

Flash forward to 2022, after drafting all of TWO guys who are contributing to the O-line (well, is Becton even contributing anymore?) people are whining and complaining that the FO is focusing too much on beefing up the Oline.

[Beerfish]

1 hour ago, Warfish said:

Currently rated as 5th on the Scouting site I use.

DRAFT PROFILE: BIO

• Treylon Burks was a four-star recruit out of Warren High School Arkansas where as well as setting receiving records also played baseball and basketball to a high level.
• Burks chose to stay local after being heavily recruited joined Arkansas. Burks impressed as a freshman and ended up on the All-SEC freshman team.
• In 2020 Burks began getting national attention where he notched up 820 yds receiving and added 70 on the ground in only nine games - resulting in an All-SEC second-team nod.
• In 2021 Burks exploded whereas of December 1st he has logged 1104 yds in the air with 11 TDs and rushed for additional 112 yds. His 2,399 career receiving yards are the sixth-most in school history.

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS

• Has been used all over the field - including snaps as a back. Could easily adopt a role akin to Deebo Samuel in San Francisco - although he's even bigger
• A dominating deep threat especially over the past two years where we have given him a perfect deep threat grade
• Uses huge frame and long arms to deliver quality, powerful blocks on defensive backs.
• Has enough upper-body strength and tenacity to be very effective as a downfield blocker. Is not shy about taking on his man, provides some pop and will open a running lane for his back at the next level.
• Has huge hands that measure 10.75 inches across. By comparison, the biggest hands wide receiver hands at the 2020 NFL combine was 10 1/2
• Top-shelf balance and the lower-body strength to power through arm tackles. Has very good vision to set up his moves with impressive run-after the- catch ability.
• Creates mismatches for his quarterback with a large frame and long arms. Good body control to shield defenders and understands how to use his size to his advantage.
• Fluid athlete with explosive burst and speed to stretch the field and breeze past defenders. Has a quick first step and gets to top speed in a hurry. Was clocked at an elite 22.6 MPH in week 3 - one of the fastest runs in all of college football
• Burks is a smooth athlete with outstanding size and strength
• Has the size, length, and strength to defeat press jams. Can make the spectacular catch. A decent open-field runner with some agility and the ability to break tackles.
• Shines on vertical routes, eating up a cushion with long strides, and getting downfield before DBs can turn their hips. He has a great combination of size, athleticism, and body control and has been compared to AJ Brown
• Made Bruce Feldman's Freaks list at #53 -- "Burks also is one of the strongest receivers in college football, benching 380 pounds, squatting 500 and power cleaning 320."

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• Does not always use his hands to secure deep throws, allowing the ball into his pads and chest.
• Comes off the snap high and upright, and takes a while to hit top speed
• Not as consistent a blocker you would expect consider his size and strength
• Need to improve his route - tends to short cut and round them off to often
• Doesn't always give 100% on every play
• Hasn't run many different routes at Arkansas and so will enter the NFL very raw
• Has had a problem with drops - may have a concentration issue

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY
A big, physical target with an ideal blend of size, athleticism, and elite speed to take the top off a defense, Burks has locked himself in as a first-round prospect in the 2022 NFL Draft and some view him as having talents similar to DK Metcalf.
The combine will probably decide exactly high on the first day he will hear his name called - where an elite forty-time could propel him into the top 10.

There are for sure other WRs with better and more refined skill sets but we have a guy like Moore and that type of guy in my mind is a bit easier to find.   I see Burks as a Deebo, AJ brown type of guy, big, physical bully.

[Joe W. Namath]

Yup.   Perfect start to Round 1.  Then you take McBride at 35 and Isaiah Spiller at 38.

We now have:

4 good receivers (Davis, Moore, Berrios, Burkes)

2 stud running backs (Spiller-thunder, Carter-lightning)

Stud tight end (McBride)

Monster oline ( Fant, AVT, McGovern, Ekwonu, Becton)

The offense is fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Now spend the rest of the draft and Free Agency addressing the D.

This is a dream scenario for this ballclub.

[PS17]

1 hour ago, IndianaJet said:

This board......

For years......FOR YEARS....people whined and complained that we had a terrible oline and the FO just ignored the group in the draft.

Flash forward to 2022, after drafting all of TWO guys who are contributing to the O-line (well, is Becton even contributing anymore?) people are whining and complaining that the FO is focusing too much on beefing up the Oline.

Because the OL is good now. Fant - AVT - McGovern - FA signing/draftee - Becton/Moses is a very solid group. I’d target interior OL in round 3 onward, not at 4 or 10. 

[Larz]

If they draft a WR at 10 I don’t care about his measurables as much as his hands lol. No more body catchers. I want to read “great hands, rarely drops  anything “

[TuscanyTile2]

4 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Gimme da Burks, gimme all da Burks

We can  afford to draft "Burk" but I'm not sure if we can afford to use up multiple picks to draft "Burks".

[HighPitch]

Im OL/WR in the 1st

Edge/TE in the 2nd

[OMA]

Jacksonville is taking OL and Detroit is taking Hutchinson.  I think it comes down to Houston going off script and taking a CB or Hamilton and Thibodeaux is there at 4.  If not I see us taking the OL then DL at 10.  WR and TE in 2nd round.  

 

[68JET11]

That right there is my dream draft 1st round.... If that happens, then I'll be happy as pig in ^@#%$

[rangerous]

i know the general consensus is that the jets shouldn't pick another oline guy in the first round, especially with the 4 pick but we're mostly looking at this team as fans and don't really know what douglas and saleh are seeing.  are they having issues with becton?  do they feel fant can play at a high level for another 3 or 4 seasons?  do they think fant has played at left tackle as well as those pff stats say?  i guess i wouldn't be surprised by much.  i remember when michaels got his bookend tackles in the late 70's.  that oline got them to the championship game.  as for the 10 pick, i certainly think they need to grab a top wr at some point.  if this is the guy, so be it.

[extmenace]

8 hours ago, doitny said:

if Zack needs 3 1st rd picks to protect him then hes not the guy and we need to move on. no other QB needs thats to win

Its not what Zach needs, it’s what the offense needs. A stud OL can produce exceptional gains in the running game. How nice would it be to have a rushing attack that can take over a game and take the pressure off Wilson? A great rushing attack should make it easier to throw the ball. Let the kid gain some confidence without having the pressure of having to carry the offense. 

[genot]

To me if Hamilton is there at #4,(and I think he will be), the Jets will trade out of #4. It's almost a certainty in my mind. Hamilton is the only defensive prospect who isn't a boom or bust kind of player. Some team will trade up to #4, to get him.

[doitny]

2 hours ago, extmenace said:

Its not what Zach needs, it’s what the offense needs. A stud OL can produce exceptional gains in the running game. How nice would it be to have a rushing attack that can take over a game and take the pressure off Wilson? A great rushing attack should make it easier to throw the ball. Let the kid gain some confidence without having the pressure of having to carry the offense. 

i agree, i just dont agree that OL has to be all 1strders. 

the rest of the league dont do it and win. 3 teams do it and lose.