McShay and Jeremiah both have Jets taking a corner at pick 10

[Rhg1084]

These are the guys I pay most attention to with the mocks considering their relationship with JD. It is interesting that they both have us going corner pick 10. I know all the experts on this board say the Jets don’t value corner play to be taken with a high pick however. Should be interesting!

[bla bla bla]

I could live with Sauce but I want no part of Stingley. I don't really want CB early though.

[Greenseed4]

Probably won’t draft a nickle-back, in Trent McDuffie. 

[BurntDice]

Sign me up for a cb. The fact that the hawks paid Sherman top tier money shatters all the “experts” opinion that the team doesn’t value cbs. The ravens also took 2 1st cbs within 5 years while joe was there and that was after just drafting 2 within 5 years prior to him joining. 

[GreenFish]

Jags drafted Ramsey early when Saleh was there. He credited Ramsey for taking that Jags defense to the next level. 

[BurntDice]

Just now, GreenFish said:

Jags drafted Ramsey early when Saleh was there. He credited Ramsey for taking that Jags defense to the next level. 

All these signs pointing to the team highly valuing cb play yet people keep saying the opposite lol 

[BigRy56]

I don’t have an issue with it as long as the WR  / EDGE positions have been addressed in either a trade or FA.

The strength of this draft seems to be OL, EDGE, and TE, so I would prefer to go into the draft targeting those positions

[Rhg1084]

Dream scenario is Jets sign a RG in free agency and bring in a big time receiver (Cooper, Ridley).

then in the draft if they can walk away with Thibodeaux and either Stingley or Gardner would completely transform this defense. Especially with Lawson coming back

[undertow]

You think Joe Douglas is telling guys he worked with a decade ago who are now in the media who he's drafting in February?

[Beerfish]

The game has changed, there are what a few #1 CBs in this league now and they are still getting beat in the super bowl. 

rams won because they got to burrow

Tampa won the year before because they got to mahommes

Due to league rules CB's have moved down the list of premium players.

If Douglas drafts a CB high this year, his draft last year was an utter flop.

Now if any of these dudes were indeed totally premium players, maybe but they are not.

[RedBeardedSavage]

The officiating in this sport simply does not allow cornerbacks to be consistently effective enough to warrant this high of an investment.

Drafting a corner @ 4 or 10 would be a disaster.

[varjet]

JD has to take players who he thinks are going to be good.

If the player who he thinks is the best is a player the Jets don't need or does not fit, he needs to trade down.  Hopefully someone will agree with that.  

If does not help to draft an EDGE at 4 who busts, but pass on future all pro OL.  That is the Vernon Gholston story.  We were better off with Jarrod Mayo.  

We have seen enough drafts.  In this draft, the OL and CBs will go higher than we think.   If Thib falls it will not be my much.  Denver is not taking a QB with small hands-the weather there is too bad.  Denver will take Malik Willis, if they don't trade for Rodgers. 

[Obrien2Toon]

I hate first round corners

Ramsey is the best in the league and he couldn’t cover anyone in the sb

league doesn’t allow these guys to cover

that being said, I think stingley is a special talent, and I’d take him at 10

[Hex]

Well, this must mean the Jets are 100% going to draft a CB at no. 10!

[65 Toss Power Trap]

Don't love that idea. If we do, hope we nail it.

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, bla bla bla said:

I could live with Sauce but I want no part of Stingley. I don't really want CB early though.

I want the kid from Cinn. The last pass completed against him was in Pop Warner. 

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, undertow said:

You think Joe Douglas is telling guys he worked with a decade ago who are now in the media who he's drafting in February?

He doesn't have to tell them. They might still have access to his MySpace page.

[football guy]

Having great corners and great depth at the position is necessary for teams to get over the hump IMO. Sure, you will occasionally find teams like the Bengals who get by with stop-gaps, but at the end of the day I think you need at least one player with elite potential on every level of defense if it's going to have a chance at being a truly successful unit. Jets have a "good enough" front in my opinion. Q has elite potential. Lawson has elite potential. JFM is good. Do they need another EDGE? Absolutely. Having been said, I don't see the harm in spending #4 or #10 on a CB (ideally #10) in a class that is +12 deep with Round 1-2 EDGE prospects. They have Mosley, who I think is a stud, and they have time to find/groom a successor without having to spend a 1st round pick on that player. Safety is a sh*tshow, but that's easier to address than corner. We do have some really surprisingly solid talents at CB, but Hall/Echols/Carter II/Dunn + a Round 1 talent evokes an evil grinch grin more so than that unit alone plus some aging veteran. 

Jets are in a unique position where they can put themselves in a position having spent the last 6 first-round picks on "premier" positions (QB/OL/DL/CB). The jury may be out on Becton, but I think everyone is rushing to judgment on him. Still, imagine adding a first-round DE and CB this year? Even if Douglas is hellbent on adding another OL, I would take the best DE/CB with the next first and trade up from the second-round to add whichever you don't land at #10. Don't think it happens, but Jets should really put in a lot of homework into these top CBs. 

[kdels62]

Everyone is just copying me

[BurnleyJet]

Pick a corner at 10 to play zone I think not.

[Patriot Killa]

No DB’s in round 1 unless you’re trading down some.

[Ghost]

I used to think CB was the most important position behind QB and LT. I do not know if I still feel the same way. I’m not a big fan of drafting corners in the top 15. 

[BurntDice]

5 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Pick a corner at 10 to play zone I think not.

The jets didn’t play just zone last year. They were like 35% man coverage 

[CanadienJetsFan]

Those fools 

[Matt39]

Corners don’t matter when you can’t get first downs

[Bronx]

I think JD will continue to build around Zach this year at least with one of the top picks.

It will be a combo of any of these positions OL/Edge/WR in Rd 1; DB/TE/OL/WR in Rd 2.

[JetsMetsDevilsPA]

If Hamilton is there at 4 I doubt they let him walk.  If Ekwonu is there at 10 I doubt they let him walk.  

[k-met57]

they have to get a receiver, or go get Ridley/Robinson. This draft has 4 receivers who are projected to start in the NFL....and all will be gone by picks 15-20.

[Matt39]

8 hours ago, varjet said:

JD has to take players who he thinks are going to be good.

If the player who he thinks is the best is a player the Jets don't need or does not fit, he needs to trade down.  Hopefully someone will agree with that.  

If does not help to draft an EDGE at 4 who busts, but pass on future all pro OL.  That is the Vernon Gholston story.  We were better off with Jarrod Mayo.  

We have seen enough drafts.  In this draft, the OL and CBs will go higher than we think.   If Thib falls it will not be my much.  Denver is not taking a QB with small hands-the weather there is too bad.  Denver will take Malik Willis, if they don't trade for Rodgers. 

In reality Douglas needs to take players early and often who will help the offense look better. A corner isn’t saving his job if the offense can’t move the ball. The only way defense makes sense in round 1 is if there’s a pass rusher at 4. Corner is an unacceptable pick in round 1. 

[Sperm Edwards]

2 hours ago, BurntDice said:

The jets didn’t play just zone last year. They were like 35% man coverage 

Shush. You're inviting 500 more pages of how the Jets don't need a single corner drafted ahead of round 5, nor a veteran worthy of more than the vet minimum salary, because zone.

Even when the receiver is in someone's zone there are no coverage skills needed to warrant CBs who can actually cover better once the target's identified, also because zone.

Zone CBs just stand there or move slightly within their zones, don't move to more tightly cover any target in said zone, because zone. Draft a 3rd LT and keep JFM at edge.

That'll improve the offense so much it won't matter if the D is surrendering 30ppg again. 

Also zone.

 

 

 

 

zone

 

[viffer]

9 hours ago, undertow said:

You think Joe Douglas is telling guys he worked with a decade ago who are now in the media who he's drafting in February?

I doubt he is telling anyone anything. But people close to him may understand how he thinks better than all the "experts" on this board...

[More Cowbell]

I highly doubt Stingley  is available  at 10. That would be a Sapp like fall if he was. 

[varjet]

I think you use FA to pay up for the pieces you need.  

You use the draft to take players that are going to be good, emphasizing the players that you can't find in FA.  

[CanadaSteve]

I have seen many mock drafts now where Houston takes Kyle Hamilton leaving us with Thibodeaux.  It would be interesting to see if anyone would bite to move up to take him.

I REALLY hope it doesn't work that way.  I am not sure I want anything to do with that kid.  JD cannot afford to bust on the #4 pick.  He just can't.

[football guy]

7 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Pick a corner at 10 to play zone I think not.

We played in man at about a league-average clip