Popular Post Warfish Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 Quote Vitali Volodymyrovych Klitschko[dubious – discuss] (/vɪˌtæli ˈklɪtʃkoʊ/; Ukrainian: Віта́лій Володи́мирович Кличко́ [wiˈtɑl⁽ʲ⁾ij woloˈdɪmɪrowɪtʃ klɪtʃˈkɔ]; born 19 July 1971)[4] is a Ukrainian politician and former professional boxer. He currently serves as Mayor of Kyiv[5] and head of the Kyiv City State Administration, having held both offices since June 2014. On 24 February 2022, Klitschko, along with his brother, Wladimir, announced they would take up arms in defense of Kyiv in the Russo-Ukrainian War. ----------------------------------------------------- First: I am aware there was already a thread on Russia's invasion of Ukraine and we (posters) got it locked quickly with the usual shenanigans. So for crying out loud, act like grownups and don't do it again with this one. Second: As Americans, I think we would all agree this invasion is unjustified (legally and morally), and that Russia is a bad actor on the world stage. We do not need to fight about which of us is more or less supportive of this. Third: As Americans, I think we all want to avoid World War III, or at least the U.S. being involved in another War abroad. We might feel pain because of that view, as I do, over poor Ukraine and their people. Some might not, and that's ok too. Again, we do not need to fight about it, try to out patriot each other or try and out American First each other ffs. So keep it in your pants. ------------------------------------------------------- This is about the amazing events that have two former elite Boxers now taking up arms. And perhaps some thoughts about other sports heroes who, in time of need, took up arms for their country. I remember reading about Ted Williams, how he lost quite a few years of his career after being drafted. And of course the famous case of Muhammad Ali's comments and refusal to go fight in Vietnam. And of course the sad tale of NFL star Pat Tillman.... It seems almost insane to think of the Klitschko brothers at War, almost like the idea of Mike Tyson taking up an AK-47..... Are there any Sports Stars/Heroes that come to mind for you when you think of guys who played sports, but also served in combat in War? 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaconJet Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I believe there were quite a few athletes who served in WWII - Joe Lewis, Jackie Robinson, Joe DiMaggio, Hank Greenberg, Stan Musial - although I think most or all of those guys didn't see much combat if any. Yogi Berra and Gil Hodges saw combat in WWII I believe, and Hobey Baker saw combat in WWI. I think Tom Landry flew a bomber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 And he bonked Hayden Panttiere. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Nile Kinnick fits this bill and is a story not many know. Kinnick is Iowa’s only Heisman Trophy winner. Our stadium is named in his honor. He was a member of the Navy during WWII. He died off the coast of Venezuela in a training flight crash in 1943, 4 years after his Heisman Win. His heisman speech to this day makes me proud to be an Iowan and an American. Take 3 minutes if you can. They play this in the stadium before every game. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post freestater Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 I go to a Ukrainian club every Friday for dinner. I have a lot of friends I'm going to see tonight for whom I am worrying about a great deal. Their families are in real danger. 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NIGHT STALKER Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 Rocky Bleier...Purple Heart recipient (196th Light Infantry Brigade) with 4 Super Bowl rings. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 That Olympic runner in UNBROKEN. POWERFUL MOVIE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, BeaconJet said: I believe there were quite a few athletes who served in WWII - Joe Lewis, Jackie Robinson, Joe DiMaggio, Hank Greenberg, Stan Musial - although I think most or all of those guys didn't see much combat if any. Yogi Berra and Gil Hodges saw combat in WWII I believe, and Hobey Baker saw combat in WWI. I think Tom Landry flew a bomber. Ted Williams flew combat missions in WW2 and Korea, If Willie Mays doesn't he had a strong chance to pass Babe Ruth in career HR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said: And he bonked Hayden Panttiere. Mark Sanchez doesn’t strike me as a soldier , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 51 minutes ago, freestater said: I go to a Ukrainian club every Friday for dinner. I have a lot of friends I'm going to see tonight for whom I am worrying about a great deal. Their families are in real danger. @Spoot-Face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 I’m Ukrainian. My grandmother came home from school as a teenager and her entire family was gone. Taken to the Siberian gulags. Never heard from again. She hid for months. Farm to farm, barn to barn. She was eventually caught and was put on a train she said was very similar to the ones in Schindler’s List. Somehow she manages to escape with three men. One that would eventually become my grandfather. They hid in the forest and traveled west. Finding their way to the Poland boarder. Fast forward 5 years when the Germans showed up. My grandmother, pregnant with my father and her husband were shipped to Germany to work in the camps. She never saw her husband again, but somehow survived. Gave birth to my father on March 26, 1945 in the camp and was luckily liberated shortly after that from the same Russian troops that murdered her family. They were stuck in Germany, unable to return to Ukraine. Saint Nicholas church from Chicago, IL was relocating Ukrainian refugees to America. They brought her and my father over and they moved to Ukrainian Village. Chicago and Western Ave. It’s the neighborhood I was born in. I’m not sure why I told the story or what I was trying to accomplish from it, but there it is. 31 15 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: I’m Ukrainian. My grandmother came home from school as a teenager and her entire family was gone. Taken to the Siberian gulags. Never heard from again. She hid for months. Farm to farm, barn to barn. She was eventually caught and was put on a train she said was very similar to the ones in Schindler’s List. Somehow she manages to escape with three men. One that would eventually become my grandfather. They hid in the forest and traveled west. Finding their way to the Poland boarder. Fast forward 5 years when the Germans showed up. My grandmother, pregnant with my father and her husband were shipped to Germany to work in the camps. She never saw her husband again, but somehow survived. Gave birth to my father on March 26, 1945 in the camp and was luckily liberated shortly after that from the same Russian troops that murdered her family. They were stuck in Germany, unable to return to Ukraine. Saint Nicholas church from Chicago, IL was relocating Ukrainian refugees to America. They brought her and my father over and they moved to Ukrainian Village. Chicago and Western Ave. It’s the neighborhood I was born in. I’m not sure why I told the story or what I was trying to accomplish from it, but there it is. Damn dude. That’s just incredible. Thanks for sharing, 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted February 25, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: I’m not sure why I told the story or what I was trying to accomplish from it, but there it is. I, for one, want to thank you for sharing something so personal Jimmy. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Roger Staubach - naval academy grad. Not sure if he saw any combat, but served during the Vietnam era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: I’m Ukrainian. My grandmother came home from school as a teenager and her entire family was gone. Taken to the Siberian gulags. Never heard from again. She hid for months. Farm to farm, barn to barn. She was eventually caught and was put on a train she said was very similar to the ones in Schindler’s List. Somehow she manages to escape with three men. One that would eventually become my grandfather. They hid in the forest and traveled west. Finding their way to the Poland boarder. Fast forward 5 years when the Germans showed up. My grandmother, pregnant with my father and her husband were shipped to Germany to work in the camps. She never saw her husband again, but somehow survived. Gave birth to my father on March 26, 1945 in the camp and was luckily liberated shortly after that from the same Russian troops that murdered her family. They were stuck in Germany, unable to return to Ukraine. Saint Nicholas church from Chicago, IL was relocating Ukrainian refugees to America. They brought her and my father over and they moved to Ukrainian Village. Chicago and Western Ave. It’s the neighborhood I was born in. I’m not sure why I told the story or what I was trying to accomplish from it, but there it is. Crazy story. My dad's best friend was a guy conscripted into the Russian army in WWII. When they met up with Americans in Berlin, he did anything he could to hang out with the Yanks. He said that as they were pulling out, he came up to his friends' troop transport, and not knowing a word of English, he gave them the saddest eyes he could muster. They grabbed him up and hid him amongst the guys till they were safely in American sectors. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 That was just the first ten years of my father’s life. It is a Oscar worthy story. He came to America, poor as could be. Drafted to Vietnam and served his new country proudly. Married my mother, but she passed when I was 2 of breast cancer. He was burdened with 5 and 2 year sons and no wife. The man became a certified electrician, plumber, hvac, and eventually became a mechanical engineer. He buried his second wife 25 years after his first, who passed from Jakob Creutzfeldt disease. It was later on a episode of House, giving me chills. He never complained or blamed others for his struggles. He died on November 17, 2021 of Covid. It was the same day Jet Medic lost his father in law. The man was my best friend and role model. I feel nothing but pride and honor to have called that man my dad. 8 18 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoJetsFan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Hank Bauer played with the New York Yankees (from 1948 to 1959) and Kansas City Athletics (from 1960 to 1961). He served as the manager of the Athletics in both Kansas City (196162) and in Oakland (1969), as well as of the Baltimore Orioles (196468), guiding the Orioles to the World Series title in 1966, a four-game sweep over the heavily favored Los Angeles Dodgers. This represented the first World Series title in the franchise's history. One month after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Bauer enlisted in the Marine Corps and served with the 4th Raider Battalion and G Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. While deployed to the Pacific Theater, Bauer contracted malaria on Guadalcanal, but he recovered from that well enough to earn 11 campaign ribbons, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts in 32 months of combat. Bauer was wounded his second time during the Battle of Okinawa, when he was a sergeant in command of a platoon of 64 Marines. Only six of the 64 Marines survived the Japanese counterattack, and Bauer was wounded by shrapnel in his thigh. His wounds were severe enough to send him back to the US 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, chirorob said: Ted Williams flew combat missions in WW2 and Korea, If Willie Mays doesn't he had a strong chance to pass Babe Ruth in career HR Teddy re-upped for a second tour, cost hi 4 years in his prime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Most of MLB signed on. Thats why they had the all women baseball league Joe Lewis enlisted and fought for the military. The US and the IRS decided to credit him with the money he would have earned for all those fights and sent him a tax bill which he never was able to pay off. Which led to him playing a goon as a wrestler and then coming out of retirement in his mid 40's and getting his ass handed to him by Rocky Marciano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Both brothers have been going this route for a while and give their lives to that country. I think Wlad actually auctioned off his gold medal for a children's org a while back too. Ukrainian boxers overall have been dominating the **** out of the sport for the last couple decades. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Warfish said: ----------------------------------------------------- First: I am aware there was already a thread on Russia's invasion of Ukraine and we (posters) got it locked quickly with the usual shenanigans. So for crying out loud, act like grownups and don't do it again with this one. Second: As Americans, I think we would all agree this invasion is unjustified (legally and morally), and that Russia is a bad actor on the world stage. We do not need to fight about which of us is more or less supportive of this. Third: As Americans, I think we all want to avoid World War III, or at least the U.S. being involved in another War abroad. We might feel pain because of that view, as I do, over poor Ukraine and their people. Some might not, and that's ok too. Again, we do not need to fight about it, try to out patriot each other or try and out American First each other ffs. So keep it in your pants. ------------------------------------------------------- This is about the amazing events that have two former elite Boxers now taking up arms. And perhaps some thoughts about other sports heroes who, in time of need, took up arms for their country. I remember reading about Ted Williams, how he lost quite a few years of his career after being drafted. And of course the famous case of Muhammad Ali's comments and refusal to go fight in Vietnam. And of course the sad tale of NFL star Pat Tillman.... It seems almost insane to think of the Klitschko brothers at War, almost like the idea of Mike Tyson taking up an AK-47..... Are there any Sports Stars/Heroes that come to mind for you when you think of guys who played sports, but also served in combat in War? What if taking up arms is the problem, and not something to be deemed as 'heroic'? Devils advocate, can be discussed in private messages rather than getting the thread locked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: I feel nothing but pride and honor to have called that man my dad. What a remarkable dad and grandmother you had. Thank for sharing your inspirstional story about your family. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: I’m Ukrainian. My grandmother came home from school as a teenager and her entire family was gone. Taken to the Siberian gulags. Never heard from again. She hid for months. Farm to farm, barn to barn. She was eventually caught and was put on a train she said was very similar to the ones in Schindler’s List. Somehow she manages to escape with three men. One that would eventually become my grandfather. They hid in the forest and traveled west. Finding their way to the Poland boarder. Fast forward 5 years when the Germans showed up. My grandmother, pregnant with my father and her husband were shipped to Germany to work in the camps. She never saw her husband again, but somehow survived. Gave birth to my father on March 26, 1945 in the camp and was luckily liberated shortly after that from the same Russian troops that murdered her family. They were stuck in Germany, unable to return to Ukraine. Saint Nicholas church from Chicago, IL was relocating Ukrainian refugees to America. They brought her and my father over and they moved to Ukrainian Village. Chicago and Western Ave. It’s the neighborhood I was born in. I’m not sure why I told the story or what I was trying to accomplish from it, but there it is. They experienced what millions did as described in this must read book: Timothy Snyder - Bloodlands - Hardcover Quote Americans call the Second World War “The Good War.” But before it even began, America’s wartime ally Josef Stalin had killed millions of his own citizens—and kept killing them during and after the war. Before Hitler was finally defeated, he had murdered six million Jews and nearly as many other Europeans. At War’s end, both the German and the Soviet killing sites fell behind the Iron Curtain, leaving the history of mass killing in darkness. Bloodlands is a new kind of European history, presenting the mass murders committed by the Nazi and Stalinist regimes as two aspects of a single history, in the time and place where they occurred: between Germany and Russia, when Hitler and Stalin both held power. Assiduously researched, deeply humane, and utterly definitive, Bloodlands will be required reading for anyone seeking to understand the central tragedy of modern history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaconJet Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: Both brothers have been going this route for a while and give their lives to that country. I think Wlad actually auctioned off his gold medal for a children's org a while back too. Ukrainian boxers overall have been dominating the **** out of the sport for the last couple decades. I just read Oleksandr Usyk headed back to Ukraine to fight as well. Left the UK and safety, to defend his country. Godspeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, BeaconJet said: I just read Oleksandr Usyk headed back to Ukraine to fight as well. Left the UK and safety, to defend his country. Godspeed. Postol is fighting this weekend and then heading back as his wife and kids are still in Kyiv. I have no idea how he's supposed to fight with that on his mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I found out an interesting tidbit about Putin and Robert Kraft. Kraft let Putin wear that ill gotten SB ring. Putin walks away wearing it with three KGB guards and doesn’t give it back. karma All true, US govt told Kraft to let it go lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: I’m Ukrainian. My grandmother came home from school as a teenager and her entire family was gone. Taken to the Siberian gulags. Never heard from again. She hid for months. Farm to farm, barn to barn. She was eventually caught and was put on a train she said was very similar to the ones in Schindler’s List. Somehow she manages to escape with three men. One that would eventually become my grandfather. They hid in the forest and traveled west. Finding their way to the Poland boarder. Fast forward 5 years when the Germans showed up. My grandmother, pregnant with my father and her husband were shipped to Germany to work in the camps. She never saw her husband again, but somehow survived. Gave birth to my father on March 26, 1945 in the camp and was luckily liberated shortly after that from the same Russian troops that murdered her family. They were stuck in Germany, unable to return to Ukraine. Saint Nicholas church from Chicago, IL was relocating Ukrainian refugees to America. They brought her and my father over and they moved to Ukrainian Village. Chicago and Western Ave. It’s the neighborhood I was born in. I’m not sure why I told the story or what I was trying to accomplish from it, but there it is. My mother fled Hungary under similar circumstances as a child. Stories of trucks carrying the dead, an uncle assassinated by Russian soldiers, My grandfather and Grandmother and four children being hunted by soldiers with dogs, surviving for weeks on a large salami and hard bread. Crossing a frozen river on foot as a large group of refugees tried to make it to Austria. Then asylum in the U.S. where the family was broken up and stayed with sponsors until my grandfather could find work and put a roof over their heads....some of the stories are horrifying so I won't share them, but I can tell you my heart is with the people of Ukraine right now. There will be scars from this for generations. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HighPitch Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 Warfish is spot on. We have a no politics rule here but for the love of god how can we not be on the same page on this matter? Imma check that closed thread to see who the a holes were. Shame on you! anyways sad but great stories coming out from this: -that boxer dude turned soldier is actually the mayor of keiv - the final video from that island is out now. Sad but brave as f - the dude on the bridge that sacrificed his life -the ghost of kiev, real or embelished, great stuff - i really really really enjoying seeing the world united on this. All the protests….even russians themselves . Even the taliban. Looks like it vlad and his cronies vs. literally everyone else on this planet even russians themselves god bless the ukranians!!!!! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Serious question for the mods: Instead of closing threads, can you guys get some kind of feature that when the poster that crosses the line posts something, he can just be banned from posting anymore that thread? eventually, the few that cant control themselves will simply not be able to reply and the rest of us can keep discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Serious question for the mods: Instead of closing threads, can you guys get some kind of feature that when the poster that crosses the line posts something, he can just be banned from posting anymore that thread? eventually, the few that cant control themselves will simply not be able to reply and the rest of us can keep discussing. HighPitch-Hey mods can you ban people that don't agree with me and don't agree with the information I'm feed by MSM? This war didn't start this week this war started in 2014 when the US backed a coup that overthrew a democratically elected leader and installed a government full of neo-nazis because the previous regime was anti NATO...settle down with the war cheerleading sometimes there's no good guys this is just another war we started to keep the war machine churning and capture more energy. This is far more complicated than reeee Russia bad. Last comment so I don't get banned. lmao 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Serious question for the mods: Instead of closing threads, can you guys get some kind of feature that when the poster that crosses the line posts something, he can just be banned from posting anymore that thread? eventually, the few that cant control themselves will simply not be able to reply and the rest of us can keep discussing. Doesn’t work, we’ve tried. Also this is primarily a Jet fan and NFL discussion site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Doesn’t work, we’ve tried. Also this is primarily a Jet fan and NFL discussion site. Let people have their opinions and if it becomes name calling shut it down. In my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I've got a lot of respect for the Klitschko brothers. Like many other retired, successful athletes, they could have retired to a life of luxury. Instead, they committed themselves to public service and are now putting their lives on the line in bravest act of pubic service. As for myself, being 44 years old It is surreal to see an invasion on the European theater of a sovereign nation. I've heard that Ukraine has activated all former military up to the age of 60. I've been out of the Air Force since 2006 and I can't imagine being reactivated at this stage of life. Seeing the pictures of a woman in her 70s picking up a rifle is both heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time. God bless the Ukranians. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestater Posted February 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2022 Got my pierogies at the Ukie club tonight. I'll be joining the protest at our federal building tomorrow. I stand with Ukraine. 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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