Becton may no longer be working with Duke Manyweather…

[Mogglez]

That would be less than ideal.  Duke is the best in the business.

[JTJet]

How does that translate to "may no longer be working with" ?

I read that as "bringing the beast out is on Becton while he works out with me". 

[sec101row23]

The words “Becton” and “working” are seldom heard in the same sentence, unless prefaced by the word not.   

[Lith]

5 minutes ago, JTJet said:

How does that translate to "may no longer be working with" ?

I read that as "bringing the beast out is on Becton while he works out with me". 

Agreed.  I read the exchange the same way.

[Stark]

1 minute ago, Lith said:

Agreed.  I read the exchange the same way.

yeah, how I interpreted it also... can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink type response.

 

 

[The Crusher]

16 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

That would be less than ideal.  Duke is the best in the business.

Seems more like Becton isn’t working enough for him. 

[UntouchableCrew]

Sounds more like he's challenging Becton than that they aren't together.

[jeremy2020]

11 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

The words “Becton” and “working” are seldom heard in the same sentence, unless prefaced by the word not.   

You try carrying 50lbs of big macs from the car to the house and then tell me it's not a workout

[Warfish]

It's amazing to me the difference in treatment for Becton vs. Wilson here at JN.  

[UntouchableCrew]

Just now, Warfish said:

It's amazing to me the difference in treatment for Becton vs. Wilson here at JN.  

Is it? I'm not even sure what you mean by this.

Wilson probably has more blind homers but the board is extremely critical of both players overall -- I'd say half the board has written off Becton entirely.

[jetstream23]

23 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

The words “Becton” and “working” are seldom heard in the same sentence, unless prefaced by the word not.   

It was an autocorrect as he mistyped "eating" and it came out "working"

 

[Matt39]

Man I’d really love to see the Jets scouting on Becton and Mims. Did anyone probe anything beyond watching a few games? I’m hoping this has changed and improved.

[Mogglez]

3 minutes ago, Warfish said:

It's amazing to me the difference in treatment for Becton vs. Wilson here at JN.  

Yes, because if there’s one thing that this forum did, it was be patient with Zach over the course of his rookie season.  Definitely.

I mean, here we are in a thread about Becton trying to make it about Zach.

[Mogglez]

36 minutes ago, JTJet said:

How does that translate to "may no longer be working with" ?

I read that as "bringing the beast out is on Becton while he works out with me". 

 

31 minutes ago, Lith said:

Agreed.  I read the exchange the same way.

 

28 minutes ago, Stark said:

yeah, how I interpreted it also... can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink type response.

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Sounds more like he's challenging Becton than that they aren't together.

Re-reading it, I can see this interpretation now as well.  I hope that’s the case because there’s no one better than Duke.

Forgive me lol, I hadn’t had a cup of coffee yet when I initially saw it.

[JoJoTownsell1]

3 minutes ago, Warfish said:

It's amazing to me the difference in treatment for Becton vs. Wilson here at JN.  

 

2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Is it? I'm not even sure what you mean by this.

Wilson probably has more blind homers but the board is extremely critical of both players overall -- I'd say half the board has written off Becton entirely.

Agreed. Becton came to camp out of shape, got hurt, was expected to be out a few weeks and just bailed on the rest of the season. Wilson hurt his knee, was supposed to be out a few weeks....and was back in a few weeks. 

Fans like players that show they care and hate players that don't. 

[Dcat]

35 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

The words “Becton” and “working” are seldom heard in the same sentence, unless prefaced by the word not.   

Yesterday, Saleh told STH on the call, and these are his words, "Becton has been working his butt off."

And in the nearly one-hour call, it was one of the more definitive things he said, no fluff.  So is he flat out lying to us?  Sure didn't sound like it.

[Warfish]

13 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Is it? I'm not even sure what you mean by this.

Wilson probably has more blind homers but the board is extremely critical of both players overall -- I'd say half the board has written off Becton entirely.

Wilson has an endless stream of defenders no matter how poorly he played, and any jokes about him generate a host of offended E-White Knights who decry any criticism of any aspect of him, serious or humorous.

Becton was written off by most of this board as a fat lazy slob after one injury that was not his fault went longer than hoped, and now regularly gets mocked as a fat lazy worthless slob we're better off without. 

As of today, Becton is better O-lineman than Zach is a QB.  We'll see what their respective futures hold, but the homerism for one and the aggressive hatred of the other is, IMO, very clear in the majority.

[Mogglez]

8 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Yesterday, Saleh told STH on the call, and these are his words, "Becton has been working his butt off."

And in the nearly one-hour call, it was one of the more definitive things he said, no fluff.  So is he flat out lying to us?  Sure didn't sound like it.

Respectfully, and I like Saleh, he also told us that there were no setbacks with Becton last year and that he wasn’t expecting him to miss the year when it was painfully obvious to anyone paying attention that he wasn’t coming back for the rest of the season.

[Mogglez]

2 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Wilson has an endless stream of defenders no matter how poorly he played, and any jokes about him generate a host of offended E-White Knights who decry any criticism of any aspect of him, serious or humorous.

Becton was written off by most of this board as a fat lazy slob after one injury that was not his fault went longer than hoped, and now regularly gets mocked as a fat lazy worthless slob. 

As of today, Becton is better O-lineman than Zach is a QB.  We'll see what their respective futures hold, but the homerism for one and the aggressive hatred of the other is, IMO, very clear in the majority.

Probably because he showed up to minicamp out of shape, with an injury due to him being out of shape.

[Beerfish]

47 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

That would be less than ideal.  Duke is the best in the business.

How long has he been working with him in the first place?  If it is since he came into the league  how could it be a big loss?

[Dcat]

Just now, Mogglez said:

Respectfully, and I like Saleh, he also told us that there were no setbacks with Becton last year and that he wasn’t expecting him to miss the year when it was painfully obvious to anyone that he wasn’t coming back for the rest of the season.

So was he lying to us on the call or is Becton working his butt off?  

It's either true or false.  There's no middle ground.

The big question I have here is 'Can we trust what Saleh says or is just another BS artist in front of the mike?  If he was lying, then he is a damned good liar because it sounded sincere.  

[Mogglez]

Just now, Beerfish said:

How long has he been working with him in the first place?  If it is since he came into the league  how could it be a big loss?

Since his days at Louisville.

[undertow]

Something about grown men and the over use of emojis really weirds me out. lol

[JoJoTownsell1]

1 minute ago, Warfish said:

Wilson has an endless stream of defenders no matter how poorly he played,

If  next year Wilson comes to camp out of shape, suffers an injury with a 4-6 week timeframe to return.....but then  then misses 16 weeks he will also have zero defenders. 

[Mogglez]

Just now, Dcat said:

So was he lying to us on the call or is Becton working his butt off?  

It's either true or false.  There's no middle ground.

The big question I have here is 'Can we trust what Saleh says or is just another BS artist in front of the mike?  If he was lying, then he is a damned good liar because it sounded sincere.  

Remains to be seen I guess.  We’ll have to actually see Becton show up in shape to know for sure.

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

 

Agreed. Becton came to camp out of shape, got hurt, was expected to be out a few weeks and just bailed on the rest of the season. Wilson hurt his knee, was supposed to be out a few weeks....and was back in a few weeks. 

Fans like players that show they care and hate players that don't. 

i still think at least part of the reason becton bailed was b/c fant played well and he thought he wouldn't get his job back.  immaturity.

[Green Ghost]

14 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Is it? I'm not even sure what you mean by this.

Wilson probably has more blind homers but the board is extremely critical of both players overall -- I'd say half the board has written off Becton entirely.

I’m confused by @Warfish post also. I’m no Wilson homer, but I have no issues with his work ethic, and that’s the thing people here are always harping on with Becton.

I have no idea how hard either one actually does train, but I don’t see how fish sees a Wilson connection here.

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

21 minutes ago, Warfish said:

It's amazing to me the difference in treatment for Becton vs. Wilson here at JN.  

Wilson gives the impression that he gives a hoot. Becton doesn't. It's THAT simple. 

Wilson is meeting up with his main receivers in the offseason. Becton is playing video games. It's THAT simple.

[Dcat]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

i still think at least part of the reason becton bailed was b/c fant played well and he thought he wouldn't get his job back.  immaturity.

Where did you hear/read that..?  

[Green Ghost]

8 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Wilson has an endless stream of defenders no matter how poorly he played, and any jokes about him generate a host of offended White Knights who decry any criticism of any aspect of him, serious or humorous.

Becton was written off by most of this board as a fat lazy slob after one injury that was not his fault went longer than hoped, and now regularly gets mocked as a fat lazy worthless slob. 

As of today, Becton is better O-lineman than Zach is a QB.  We'll see what their respective futures hold, but the homerism for one and the aggressive hatred of the other is, IMO, very clear in the majority.

Ah… okay. I posted my earlier comment before I saw this. Gotcha!

(and I actually agree with you now.)

[Warfish]

8 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Probably because he showed up to minicamp out of shape, with an injury due to him being out of shape.

The injury had absolutely nothing to do with his being out of shape.

[Mogglez]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

i still think at least part of the reason becton bailed was b/c fant played well and he thought he wouldn't get his job back.  immaturity.

As critical as I am of Becton, him not coming back this season was as much of a Jets decision as it was a Mekhi setback issue.  He probably could have toughed out the last few weeks of the year.  He probably would have too.  That being said, with the play of Fant, there was no reason to play him and risk further injury.

[THE BARON]

39 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Sounds more like he's challenging Becton than that they aren't together.

Challenge him to a pie eating contest. Guaranteed results.  

[Beerfish]

8 minutes ago, undertow said:

Something about grown men and the over use of emojis really weirds me out. lol

???Don;t be so sens???itive!   Dawg!  ???

[Mogglez]

3 minutes ago, Warfish said:

The injury had absolutely nothing to do with his being out of shape.

The one that made him miss all of minicamp? Plantar Fasciitis?  It absolutely was related to his weight.