choon328 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 A true #1 WR has nothing to do with statistics or measurables. A true #1 WR is the guy who in crunch time the offense feeds him the ball and the defenses knows it going to him and he still makes a play. That's what makes a true #1 WR. If your guy can't do that then he's not a #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, choon328 said: A true #1 WR has nothing to do with statistics or measurables. A true #1 WR is the guy who in crunch time the offense feeds him the ball and the defenses knows it going to him and he still makes a play. That's what makes a true #1 WR. If your guy can't do that then he's not a #1. I think guys that fall under this (non-TEs), IMO: Justin Jefferson Davante Adams Tyreek Hill Cooper Kupp Stefon Diggs Jaylen Waddle Diontae Johnson Ja'Marr Chase Tee Higgins AJ Brown Keenan Allen Amari Cooper CeeDee Lamb Terry McLaurin Calvin Ridley Michael Thomas DJ Moore Chris Godwin Mike Evans Antonio Brown DeAndre Hopkins Deebo Samuel DK Metcalf Tyler Lockett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: A WR that you throw to while pissing Poor Eli Moore is our #2 WR then? And I don't even want to think about our #3 WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 A WR that can be trusted to be open. Specifically a first read that's open more often than not. In other words, someone that allows the QB to get rid of the ball quickly and make big plays.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I can't define it, but I know it when I see one. This guy has a good eye for spotting #1 wideouts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Rob Moore was our last true 1. Maybe Marshall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Jdub03 said: It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual. Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc... What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? A #1 WR is different from WR1. A WR# is used to order wide receivers. So WR1 on a team is the most productive wide receiver on that team. A WR1 in the league is the highest producing wide receiver in the league. During draft season, WR# is used to order or rank the wide receiver prospects. This is different from a number one wide receiver (#1 WR). A number one wide receiver is not based on production but rather the traits and abilities of the wide receiver. Its a wide receiver that has the ability to beat any type of defense / defensive player. They can beat smaller, quicker defensive players with physicality or long speed. They can beat physical, bigger defenders with quickness or route running. They are smart enough to read and exploit coverages. They are players that cannot be simply shut down by eliminating one aspect of their game. On the flip side, some wide receivers have limitation that force them into roles as just a deep threat, or must play in the slot because they have a harder time releasing at the line against bigger corners. Other wide receivers may not have the speed to be a deep threat, and can work underneath. A number one wide receiver is a complete wide receiver. It's why during draft season or free agency they can label players as number one wide receivers even though they don't know what team they will go to. They are talking about the traits of the player that make them number one wide receivers. They don't know if they will be the highest producing wide receiver on their new team, but they do have the talent to be productive through their varied skillset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 - a WR who can consistently beat single coverage There’s a section of #1 who can also occasionally beat double coverage and play inside and out. Those are the elite guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticalJet2 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 A WR that the opposing team MUST have a specific gameplan for every week and said WR still produces at least 1000 yd season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Jdub03 said: It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual. Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc... What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? I think what you're describing is a #1 WR. Corey Davis is not consistently bearing single coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Warfish said: A #1 WR is a guy who can reliably draw the others teams best CB (or double coverage) and still produce ~ 1,000-1,200+ receiving yards and 6-10+ TD's per season. There are probably <32 legit #1 WR's in the NFL. This. I am agreeing a lot with you today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Jdub03 said: It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual. Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc... What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? A #1 WR is a red zone target that makes contested catches on a regular basis. He doesn't have to have sub 4.4 speed, he needs to move the chains and score TD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual. Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc... What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? A #1 receiver is a receiver that can make plays against double teams and the opponent’s best DB’s. Corey Davis is a perfect example of why you need a true #1. Davis put up very respectable numbers as the #2 in TEN with AJ Brown handing the double teams and best defenders. Davis came here and became the #1 and failed badly because he’s not good enough to handle it. The Jets have not had a true #1 receiver since maybe Santonio Holmes for a hot minute. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Jdub03 said: What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? Answer: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 It’s like asking what is a Franchise. I’m I Jets fan, I haven’t got a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 A #1 receiver is a receiver that is a difference maker. A player that opposing defenses game plan against. I’m not talking about a random WR who has a 1000 yard season. A number one receiver makes every skill position on the field better because all the focus is stopping him, it allows other players at the skill positions to get favorable matchups. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 8 hours ago, The Crusher said: Personally a guy who everyone knows the balls is likely going to and simply can’t do a damn thing about it! Cooper Kupp comes to mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said: Answer: Al Toon was great. If the Niners drafted him instead of Rice Toon would be in the HOF Instead he got stuck with Joe Walton and Walton dam near killed him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Defining a #1 WR is explained the same way the Supreme Court Justice defined pornography: "I know it when I see it" For example: I don't need to look at Devante's stats, or watch more than a couple of games, he's a #1. I don't know any of Ja'Marr's production this past year, but I can tell you the Bengals got themselves a #1 wideout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYJCAP2 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Gets open. Beats all types of coverage, especially press coverage and gets off the line causing doubles. Explosive with the ball in their hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfoshizal Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) I’d say there’s a difference between a “number one wr” and a “superstar wr.” Yet most times the terms come up people are referring to superstar players. Rare hall of fame guys, of which only a handful come around each generation. It IMO is essentially the same as the fabled “qb who makes everyone around him better.” People seem to want splash plays because these superstar players do make them but they aren’t truly necessary. You need a guy who can threaten all three levels on first and second down, and can move the chains when you need him to. That’s it. Anything more is gravy but if he can convert on third when it matters through route running? Or just yac even? Well I’d say they’re a number one because any qb can win and be better with them, even if they’re not a hall of fame caliber player. Also yes there’s the third definition, a guy who’s number one on the depth chart is a number one wr. Which is what the definition should be I guess lol, but clearly it’s evolved past that. Tldr: In 2022, intermediate route running wins championships. Edited March 11, 2022 by nickfoshizal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Moore will be a #1 in 2022 and will outproduce Cooper. A #1 is a guy who produces in the top 25 among WRs in the NFL - 80 or so catches, 1200 yards - 8 TDs .... or so. BTW, Cooper has never ever had a 1200 yard season. I think Moore goes 75/1100/7 in 2022 and by 2023 will be a consistent 80/1200/8 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Moore will be a #1 in 2022 and will outproduce Cooper. A #1 is a guy who produces in the top 25 among WRs in the NFL - 80 or so catches, 1200 yards - 8 TDs .... or so. BTW, Cooper has never ever had a 1200 yard season. I think Moore goes 75/1100/7 in 2022 and by 2023 will be a consistent 80/1200/8 guy. For what it’s worth, the 25th WR in receiving yards in 2021 had under 1000 yards. Only the top seven broke 1200 (plus one TE, Andrews). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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