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A true #1 WR has nothing to do with statistics or measurables.  A true #1 WR is the guy who in crunch time the offense feeds him the ball and the defenses knows it going to him and he still makes a play.  That's what makes a true #1 WR.  If your guy can't do that then he's not a #1.  

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9 minutes ago, choon328 said:

A true #1 WR has nothing to do with statistics or measurables.  A true #1 WR is the guy who in crunch time the offense feeds him the ball and the defenses knows it going to him and he still makes a play.  That's what makes a true #1 WR.  If your guy can't do that then he's not a #1.  

I think guys that fall under this (non-TEs), IMO:

Justin Jefferson
Davante Adams
Tyreek Hill
Cooper Kupp
Stefon Diggs
Jaylen Waddle
Diontae Johnson
Ja'Marr Chase
Tee Higgins
AJ Brown
Keenan Allen
Amari Cooper
CeeDee Lamb
Terry McLaurin
Calvin Ridley
Michael Thomas
DJ Moore
Chris Godwin
Mike Evans
Antonio Brown
DeAndre Hopkins
Deebo Samuel
DK Metcalf
Tyler Lockett 
 

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2 hours ago, Jdub03 said:

It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual.

Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc...

What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? 

A #1 WR is different from WR1.  A WR# is used to order wide receivers.  So WR1 on a team is the most productive wide receiver on that team.  A WR1 in the league is the highest producing wide receiver in the league.  During draft season, WR# is used to order or rank the wide receiver prospects.

This is different from a number one wide receiver (#1 WR).  A number one wide receiver is not based on production but rather the traits and abilities of the wide receiver.  Its a wide receiver that has the ability to beat any type of defense / defensive player.  They can beat smaller, quicker defensive players with physicality or long speed.  They can beat physical, bigger defenders with quickness or route running.  They are smart enough to read and exploit coverages.  They are players that cannot be simply shut down by eliminating one aspect of their game.  On the flip side, some wide receivers have limitation that force them into roles as just a deep threat, or must play in the slot because they have a harder time releasing at the line against bigger corners.  Other wide receivers may not have the speed to be a deep threat, and can work underneath.  A number one wide receiver is a complete wide receiver.

It's why during draft season or free agency they can label players as number one wide receivers even though they don't know what team they will go to.  They are talking about the traits of the player that make them number one wide receivers.  They don't know if they will be the highest producing wide receiver on their new team, but they do have the talent to be productive through their varied skillset.

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3 hours ago, Jdub03 said:

It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual.

Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc...

What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? 

I think what you're describing is a #1 WR.  Corey Davis is not consistently bearing single coverage. 

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3 hours ago, Warfish said:

A #1 WR is a guy who can reliably draw the others teams best CB (or double coverage) and still produce ~ 1,000-1,200+ receiving yards and 6-10+ TD's per season.

There are probably <32 legit #1 WR's in the NFL.

This. I am agreeing a lot with you today. 

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3 hours ago, Jdub03 said:

It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual.

Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc...

What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? 

A #1 WR is a red zone target that makes contested catches on a regular basis. He doesn't  have to have sub 4.4 speed, he needs to move the chains and score TD's. 

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It's brought up consistently in multiple threads, the need we have for a #1 WR. In those threads there seems to be a wide disparity on what the definition of a #1 WR is to each individual.
Do we really need this fabled #1 WR, or simply a WR that can beat press in one on one situations, get open where there supposed to be at a high rate, and catch the ball when on target? Some of the above is hard to quantify when only looking at production statistics (rec/yds/tds) due to things outside of the WRs control, i.e Oline and Qb play, scheme, etc...
What criteria does everyone use to determine what a #1 WR is? What characteristics are you looking for in a WR to add to this Jets offense? 


A #1 receiver is a receiver that can make plays against double teams and the opponent’s best DB’s. Corey Davis is a perfect example of why you need a true #1. Davis put up very respectable numbers as the #2 in TEN with AJ Brown handing the double teams and best defenders. Davis came here and became the #1 and failed badly because he’s not good enough to handle it. The Jets have not had a true #1 receiver since maybe Santonio Holmes for a hot minute.


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A #1 receiver is a receiver that is a difference maker. A player that opposing defenses game plan against. I’m not talking about a random WR who has a 1000 yard season. A number one receiver makes every skill position on the field better because all the focus is stopping him, it allows other players at the skill positions to get favorable matchups.


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8 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Personally a guy who everyone knows the balls is likely going to and simply can’t do a damn thing about it! 

Cooper Kupp comes to mind 

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2 hours ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said:

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Al Toon was great. If the Niners drafted him instead of Rice Toon would be in the HOF

Instead he got stuck with Joe Walton and Walton dam near killed him 

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Defining a #1 WR is explained the same way the Supreme Court Justice defined pornography: "I know it when I see it"

For example: I don't need to look at Devante's stats, or watch more than a couple of games, he's a #1.  I don't know any of Ja'Marr's production this past year, but I can tell you the Bengals got themselves a #1 wideout.

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I’d say there’s a difference between a “number one wr” and a “superstar wr.” Yet most times the terms come up people are referring to superstar players. Rare hall of fame guys, of which only a handful come around each generation. It IMO is essentially the same as the fabled “qb who makes everyone around him better.” People seem to want splash plays because these superstar players do make them but they aren’t truly necessary. You need a guy who can threaten all three levels on first and second down, and can move the chains when you need him to. That’s it.  Anything more is gravy but if he can convert on third when it matters through route running? Or just yac even? Well I’d say they’re a number one because any qb can win and be better with them, even if they’re not a hall of fame caliber player. Also yes there’s the third definition, a guy who’s number one on the depth chart is a number one wr. Which is what the definition should be I guess lol, but clearly it’s evolved past that. 
 

Tldr: In 2022, intermediate route running wins championships. 

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23 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Moore will be a #1 in 2022 and will outproduce Cooper.  A #1 is a guy who produces in the top 25 among WRs in the NFL - 80 or so catches, 1200 yards - 8 TDs .... or so.  

 

BTW, Cooper has never ever had a 1200 yard season.  I think Moore goes 75/1100/7 in 2022 and by 2023 will be a consistent 80/1200/8 guy.  

For what it’s worth, the 25th WR in receiving yards in 2021 had under 1000 yards. Only the top seven broke 1200 (plus one TE, Andrews).

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