section314 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Believe grand jury will decide if there is sufficient evidence to indict him. If he isn't, get ready for the real fireworks show. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Grand jury result should mean nothing. Prosecutor can present whatever evidence she wants and there is no defense. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich. NFL and teams should make decisions off of what they already know per their investigations. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Dcat Posted March 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2022 @T0mShane waiting and hoping for a trial with lots of juicy witness details 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 The Steelers seem to be the perfect destination for him. Pig Ben (left) divulging secrets to Pig Deshaun (right). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted March 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2022 43 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Grand jury result should mean nothing. Prosecutor can present whatever evidence she wants and there is no defense. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich. NFL and teams should make decisions off of what they already know per their investigations. NFL and teams probably do not have access to evidence the legal system does. Also like it or not perception is big in todays world so if he is indicted like ham sandwich the media will run with it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: NFL and teams probably do not have access to evidence the legal system does. Also like it or not perception is big in todays world so if he is indicted like ham sandwich the media will run with it. Good God, for the sake of our planet I certainly hope not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Are they going to pay this guy 70 million over 2 years to do nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 He's probably going to Steelers or Seahawks if he's allowed to be in the league this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heymangold Posted March 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2022 No matter what happens, the NFL now has to suspend him. And if Ridley got a full season for gambling, this dude deserves that and more. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FootballLove Posted March 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2022 Players gambling on games undermines the integrity of the game itself. Putting a girls hand on your junk and asking her to finish the job undermines the massage industry. Maybe the MIA (Massage Industry of America) will issue Watson a life time ban? 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, heymangold said: No matter what happens, the NFL now has to suspend him. And if Ridley got a full season for gambling, this dude deserves that and more. I think Watson will get less but I agree with you. How is that not a bigger suspension than what Ridley received. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Grand jury result should mean nothing. Prosecutor can present whatever evidence she wants and there is no defense. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich. NFL and teams should make decisions off of what they already know per their investigations. Which means if they do not indict him, he's pretty much free going forward (outside of a civil trial, which likely never happens because settlements). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, FootballLove said: Players gambling on games undermines the integrity of the game itself. Putting a girls hand on your junk and asking her to finish the job undermines the massage industry. Maybe the MIA (Massage Industry of America) will issue Watson a life time ban? What about the rape accusations? Should it just be a suspension from rapist association of America too? I, personally, believe having rapist playing in the league undermine its integrity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, heymangold said: No matter what happens, the NFL now has to suspend him. And if Ridley got a full season for gambling, this dude deserves that and more. Uh.....this is the NFL we are talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Reading up on it, 9 of the 12 jurors have to agree that there was criminal conduct evident in what Watson did, otherwise it falls to the prosecutor to decide how to proceed. Florio is suggesting that the prosecutor isn’r interested in dragging this out: “Putting it another way, if the prosecutor were determined to make things as difficult for Watson as possible, the prosecutor would drag this out, forcing Watson to watch opportunities disappear as his legal status remains unresolved. By moving now, the prosecutor arguably is looking to be fair to Watson. In turn, this could mean that the prosecutor will be making a fair and balanced presentation of evidence, instead of seizing on the opportunity to get the grand jury to indict Watson on the worst possible charges, regardless of whether an eventual conviction would be likely. Even then, the grand jury decides whether to proceed with formal charges. That decision could come today, or it could come later.” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: Are they going to pay this guy 70 million over 2 years to do nothing? nope. thats why he gets traded this year no matter what. last year he was still on his rookie contract. this year he makes the big money. last year his cap hit was 15 mil. this year its 40 mil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Dcat said: @T0mShane waiting and hoping for a trial with lots of juicy witness details He just wants Watsons list of massage therapists released.. the ones not suing him.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: What about the rape accusations? Should it just be a suspension from rapist association of America too? I, personally, believe having rapist playing in the league undermine its integrity. But as so many have said, the Cowboys have been so successful signing all of the jerks and dirtbags of the league! Oh wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, doitny said: nope. thats why he gets traded this year no matter what. last year he was still on his rookie contract. this year he makes the big money. last year his cap hit was 15 mil. this year its 40 mil But doesn't that same problem go for the team that trades for him? Trade a boat load of picks for a player that is more than likely to still be suspended for an extended period of time and still having to pay him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: NFL and teams probably do not have access to evidence the legal system does. Also like it or not perception is big in todays world so if he is indicted like ham sandwich the media will run with it. They probably have access to more than what is permissible in court. He can afford a good defense attorney, who will keep a ton of evidence out, for good due process reasons, but it means NFL and teams aren't hampered in finding a lot more out. Taking away someone's right to freedom is a much higher bar than an NFL team reasonably feeling this dude is a creep that we don't want to be associated with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Which means if they do not indict him, he's pretty much free going forward (outside of a civil trial, which likely never happens because settlements). Yep. Teams and the NFL should heavily ignore the court stuff and do their own research. Private employers fire employees for creepy stuff or to not associate with certain people all the time. Even if he is indicted, and a team through their investigating finds all the reports are probably bogus, than pick him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Yep. Teams and the NFL should heavily ignore the court stuff and do their own research. Private employers fire employees for creepy stuff or to not associate with certain people all the time. Even if he is indicted, and a team through their investigating finds all the reports are probably bogus, than pick him up. Are you suggesting, if he does get indicted and charged with sexual assault by the DA - teams should simply ignore this? and just go off their own research? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Which means if they do not indict him, he's pretty much free going forward (outside of a civil trial, which likely never happens because settlements). That's not how this works or at least shouldn't. All this is needed to suspend him and rightly so is that he is more likely than not to have committed the offenses. And with 20 some complainants, criminal complainants, and others that corroborated the stories are not seeking anything you have to go through some serious mental gymnastics to think anything other than he is a serial sexual predator. He needs to be suspended for a very long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 back to football 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScarletKnight89 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Should be interesting to see who wants him. Carolina or Seattle could do it, maybe Philly too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Indy would be smart to go all in...with the roster they have that would = instant contender. I just have my doubts that they will. Seems like Seattle and Carolina will be the most likely landing spots, with Philly somewhere in there sniffing around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bronx Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Freedom! yells the pig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mo Lew Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Lets say he doesn't get indicted and the NFL suspends him for half the season. Trade Wilson and #10 for him? I would in a heartbeat. He may be a scumbag, but he wouldn't be the only one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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