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6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

NFL and teams probably do not have access to evidence the legal system does.

Also like it or not perception is big in todays world so if he is indicted like ham sandwich the media will run with it.

Good God, for the sake of our planet I certainly hope not.

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17 minutes ago, heymangold said:

No matter what happens, the NFL now has to suspend him.  And if Ridley got a full season for gambling, this dude deserves that and more. 

I think Watson will get less but I agree with you. How is that not a bigger suspension than what Ridley received.

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3 hours ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said:

Grand jury result should mean nothing. Prosecutor can present whatever evidence she wants and there is no defense. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich. 

NFL and teams should make decisions off of what they already know per their investigations. 

Which means if they do not indict him, he's pretty much free going forward (outside of a civil trial, which likely never happens because settlements).

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21 minutes ago, FootballLove said:

Players gambling on games undermines the integrity of the game itself.

Putting a girls hand on your junk and asking her to finish the job undermines the massage industry. Maybe the MIA (Massage Industry of America) will issue Watson a life time ban?

What about the rape accusations?

Should it just be a suspension from rapist association of America too?

I, personally, believe having rapist playing in the league undermine its integrity.  

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30 minutes ago, heymangold said:

No matter what happens, the NFL now has to suspend him.  And if Ridley got a full season for gambling, this dude deserves that and more. 

Uh.....this is the NFL we are talking about.

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Reading up on it, 9 of the 12 jurors have to agree that there was criminal conduct evident in what Watson did, otherwise it falls to the prosecutor to decide how to proceed. Florio is suggesting that the prosecutor isn’r interested in dragging this out:

“Putting it another way, if the prosecutor were determined to make things as difficult for Watson as possible, the prosecutor would drag this out, forcing Watson to watch opportunities disappear as his legal status remains unresolved. By moving now, the prosecutor arguably is looking to be fair to Watson.

In turn, this could mean that the prosecutor will be making a fair and balanced presentation of evidence, instead of seizing on the opportunity to get the grand jury to indict Watson on the worst possible charges, regardless of whether an eventual conviction would be likely.

Even then, the grand jury decides whether to proceed with formal charges. That decision could come today, or it could come later.”

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3 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said:

Are they going to pay this guy 70 million over 2 years to do nothing?

nope. thats why he gets traded this year no matter what. last year he was still on his rookie contract. this year he makes the big money.

last year his cap hit was 15 mil. this year its 40 mil

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1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

What about the rape accusations?

Should it just be a suspension from rapist association of America too?

I, personally, believe having rapist playing in the league undermine its integrity.  

But as so many have said, the Cowboys have been so successful signing all of the jerks and dirtbags of the league!

Oh wait...

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24 minutes ago, doitny said:

nope. thats why he gets traded this year no matter what. last year he was still on his rookie contract. this year he makes the big money.

last year his cap hit was 15 mil. this year its 40 mil

But doesn't that same problem go for the team that trades for him?

Trade a boat load of picks for a player that is more than likely to still be suspended for an extended period of time and still having to pay him?

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3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

NFL and teams probably do not have access to evidence the legal system does.

Also like it or not perception is big in todays world so if he is indicted like ham sandwich the media will run with it.

They probably have access to more than what is permissible in court. He can afford a good defense attorney, who will keep a ton of evidence out, for good due process reasons, but it means NFL and teams aren't hampered in finding a lot more out.

Taking away someone's right to freedom is a much higher bar than an NFL team reasonably feeling this dude is a creep that we don't want to be associated with.

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1 hour ago, Warfish said:

Which means if they do not indict him, he's pretty much free going forward (outside of a civil trial, which likely never happens because settlements).

Yep. 

Teams and the NFL should heavily ignore the court stuff and do their own research. Private employers fire employees for creepy stuff or to not associate with certain people all the time. Even if he is indicted, and a team through their investigating finds all the reports are probably bogus, than pick him up. 

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58 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said:

Yep. 

Teams and the NFL should heavily ignore the court stuff and do their own research. Private employers fire employees for creepy stuff or to not associate with certain people all the time. Even if he is indicted, and a team through their investigating finds all the reports are probably bogus, than pick him up. 

Are you suggesting, if he does get indicted and charged with sexual assault by the DA - teams should simply ignore this? and just go off their own research?

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2 hours ago, Warfish said:

Which means if they do not indict him, he's pretty much free going forward (outside of a civil trial, which likely never happens because settlements).

That's not how this works or at least shouldn't. All this is needed to suspend him and rightly so is that he is more likely than not to have committed the offenses. And with 20 some complainants, criminal complainants, and others that corroborated the stories are not seeking anything you have to go through some serious mental gymnastics to think anything other than he is a serial sexual predator.

He needs to be suspended for a very long time.

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Indy would be smart to go all in...with the roster they have that would = instant contender.

I just have my doubts that they will. 

Seems like Seattle and Carolina will be the most likely landing spots, with Philly somewhere in there sniffing around.

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Lets say he doesn't get indicted and the NFL suspends him for half the season.  Trade Wilson and #10 for him?  I would in a heartbeat.

He may be a scumbag, but he wouldn't be the only one. 

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