OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I mean we showed little interest in Cooper, per sources and there really aren’t any #1s available unless a surprising trade happens. I think it’s a bigger receiver like London to compliment the others. Still have faith we resign Berrios. It also looks like TE in round 2 after possibly the top targets all got franchised. I still think we’ll grab a tier 2 free agent TE who is capable of starting, probably an experienced starting vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: I mean we showed little interest in Cooper, per sources and there really aren’t any #1s available unless a surprising trade happens. I think it’s a bigger receiver like London to compliment the others. Still have faith we resign Berrios. It also looks like TE in round 2 after possibly the top targets all got franchised. I still think we’ll grab a tier 2 TE who is capable of starting, probably an experienced starting vet. Kinda sucks we have backed ourselves into a corner of HAVING to take a WR at 10. Imagine if a guy like Sauce is sitting there for us but we have to draft Drake London instead 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Yes it is my friend. Yes it is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted March 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2022 Elijah Moore was a better prospect than just about every WR in this upcoming class. Maybe it's a push with Wilson or London. There's almost zero chance JD uses the #10 on a WR that would have gone in Round 2 last year when there are infinitely more defenders worthy in this Draft. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: Elijah Moore was a better prospect than just about every WR in this upcoming class. Maybe it's a push with Wilson or London. There's almost zero chance JD uses the #10 on a WR that would have gone in Round 2 last year when there are infinitely more defenders worthy in this Draft. I’ve been trying to make this point too, I’d argue Mims would’ve been the best guy in this draft coming out. You know JD loves his RAS scores look at the difference btwn Mims and Burks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Elijah Moore was a better prospect than just about every WR in this upcoming class. Maybe it's a push with Wilson or London. There's almost zero chance JD uses the #10 on a WR that would have gone in Round 2 last year when there are infinitely more defenders worthy in this Draft. Stop it. Garrett Wilson is a much better prospect coming out then Elijah Moore. This is crazy talk. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Have to hope the Jets pick one of the WRs who will be productive and mostly injury free. Good luck. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I think that 10 pick will be a hot trade target and i can see the jets trading back, taking london or Olave, and then targeting their favorite TE as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 What team has a better QB position, not saying the Jets do, and have the money to pay the top end WR in free agency right now? Is it possible the Jets go after an Allen Robinson, or Michael Gallup ,or JuJu, or even an OBJ in free agency? People like to say why would you come to the Jets? Well, what situations are better right now, again not saying Jets are a good situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I’ve been trying to make this point too, I’d argue Mims would’ve been the best guy in this draft coming out. You know JD loves his RAS scores look at the difference btwn Mims and Burks I sure hope we don't go reaching too far just b/c we need a WR. Burks/London/Wilson/etc. might pass the eye tests as better than Moore or Mims, but now I'm nervous. Analytics mean something, just like the eye test means something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Elijah Moore was a better prospect than just about every WR in this upcoming class. Maybe it's a push with Wilson or London. There's almost zero chance JD uses the #10 on a WR that would have gone in Round 2 last year when there are infinitely more defenders worthy in this Draft. I will bet you serious money that we draft a Wr in round 1. Just for fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: I think that 10 pick will be a hot trade target and i can see the jets trading back, taking london or Olave, and then targeting their favorite TE as well. It is wishful thinking. Trading back would be awesome, meaning, probably not going to happen. But if a QB is not taken before 10, some team will be getting nervous and be willing to move up, maybe . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedBeardedSavage Posted March 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2022 Scrooge McDuckglas going to trade down from 10 and roll over as much cap space for next year. Just wait until 2025. That's when the rebuild truly begins. 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, hawk said: What team has a better QB position, not saying the Jets do, and have the money to pay the top end WR in free agency right now? Is it possible the Jets go after an Allen Robinson, or Michael Gallup ,or JuJu, or even an OBJ in free agency? People like to say why would you come to the Jets? Well, what situations are better right now, again not saying Jets are a good situation? Possibly but none of these are #1 receivers unless you think the Jets are betting Elijah Moore is 1. Jets need to develop a stud #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I think all the WRs in FA or up for a trade stink. We should go draft. The Ohio State boys, the Alabama duo or Doc Watson. Spare me the storks who can't run. TEs Ruckert, Ferguson, Bellinger, Calcaterra, Woods 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Stop it. Garrett Wilson is a much better prospect coming out then Elijah Moore. This is crazy talk. Pretty much all Wilson has on Moore is five pounds - they’re both light - and a couple inches of height and arm length. Otherwise physically their speed and jumps were comparable and Moore blew Wilson away in the shuttle and had an outstanding three come. Moore also had better raw and market share production in college and broke out at a younger age. At the very least they’re comparable as prospects. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Stop it. Garrett Wilson is a much better prospect coming out then Elijah Moore. This is crazy talk. Hey man, you're entitled to your opinion but it is shared by very, very few others. You're the one talking crazy... “How early do you think the Jets should draft a receiver?” While his eventual answer was that Douglas should target one in round three, four or five, Connor Hughes noted that he would trade for a veteran WR1 — rather than draft one. “The Jets don’t need a player to grow with quarterback Zach Wilson,” Hughes wrote. “They have plenty of those already (Moore, Michael Carter, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Mekhi Becton, etc.). They need players who can help him right now. Adding a receiver who is already developed, already proven and already someone defenses need to worry about is of greater value than drafting someone who might eventually be that guy.” He also added a worrisome disclaimer about the 2022 wide receiver class. “You need to forget about the immediate production of Ja’Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, Odell Beckham Jr. and others in recent years,” the beat reporter warned. “They are anomalies — not the norm. There are no prospects graded as highly as them in this year’s class (a source told me Elijah Moore would go top-10 if he were in this year’s draft), and most coaches will say wideouts commonly take two, maybe three years to reach their potential.” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, derp said: Pretty much all Wilson has on Moore is five pounds - they’re both light - and a couple inches of height and arm length. Otherwise physically their speed and jumps were comparable and Moore blew Wilson away in the shuttle and had an outstanding three come. Moore also had better raw and market share production in college and broke out at a younger age. At the very least they’re comparable as prospects. I dont agree. No matter what year moore came out, hed never be considered a top 10 pick like Wilson is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: I will bet you serious money that we draft a Wr in round 1. Just for fun Sure, I'd be open to a friendly wager to charity. Those are always fun and you win even when you lose. How about $50? But to be clear, I'm saying the Jets don't take one at #4 or #10. If they trade back a bunch and draft one in the late 20's or something then that would nullify the bet. I simply don't see JD using a Top 10 pick on a WR who would have gone in Round 2 in last year's Draft when there will be so many better options on the board in the Top 10 at a variety of positions. It's the same thing with QBs this year, man. Not a single guy this year would have been taken before 5 QBs went off the board last year. Heck, Davis Mills might have snuck into the end of Round 1 this year and he went in the 3rd last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncjetman Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Kinda sucks we have backed ourselves into a corner of HAVING to take a WR at 10. Imagine if a guy like Sauce is sitting there for us but we have to draft Drake London instead jets aren’t taking a cb in the top of the draft - if sauce ( or any other) cb is there at 10 jd will look to trade out or take a top offensive player - but i’d bet on trade out if opportunities are there Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Good this should be the off-season strategy Draft First 2 Rounds EDGE WR OT Rounds 3-4 TE CB DL Free Agency OG TE SAFETY CB WR depth RB depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: I dont agree. No matter what year moore came out, hed never be considered a top 10 pick like Wilson is. I mean, you’re welcome to that opinion but you didn’t actually refute anything in my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, derp said: I mean, you’re welcome to that opinion but you didn’t actually refute anything in my post. Hes faster and 2 inches taller. There is nothing to refute. Teams were higher on a gadget player like Kadarius toney last year then they were on Elijah Moore. Thats not a knock on Moore. Hes great. But he wasnt an elite prospect coming out like Wilson is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: I mean we showed little interest in Cooper, per sources and there really aren’t any #1s available unless a surprising trade happens. I think it’s a bigger receiver like London to compliment the others. Still have faith we resign Berrios. It also looks like TE in round 2 after possibly the top targets all got franchised. I still think we’ll grab a tier 2 free agent TE who is capable of starting, probably an experienced starting vet. lol Lets put money on it. 100$ to the charity of the winner's choice. barring a big trade back, there's no WR going in the top 10. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: lol, that ain;t good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Paradis said: lol Lets money on it. 100$ to the charity of the winner's choice. barring a big trade back, there's no WR going in the top 10. This guy tried to bet me earlier in the thread. lol My response was the same as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: This guy tried to bet me earlier in the thread. lol My response was the same as yours. lol i didn't catch any of that until now. We're on the same page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Hes faster and 2 inches taller. There is nothing to refute. Teams were higher on a gadget player like Kadarius toney last year then they were on Elijah Moore. Thats not a knock on Moore. Hes great. But he wasnt an elite prospect coming out like Wilson is. He’s not faster. Moore ran a faster 40 and had a significantly better shuttle. Wilson isn’t an elite prospect. Or frankly close to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Hey man, you're entitled to your opinion but it is shared by very, very few others. You're the one talking crazy... and most coaches will say wideouts commonly take two, maybe three years to reach their potential.” So because WRs get better, we shouldn't try to build a WR group through the draft? Some of these "coaches" are stuck in the 90s. Last year alone: Chase- 1400 yards Waddle 1000 yards Smith 916 yards Amon Ra St Brown- 912 yards Not to mention Pitts was over 1k Yards and Elijah had over 500 while only starting 6 games and playing in 11 WRs are far better equipped to play in the modern NFL that WRs were back "in the good old days" Will these guys reach their potential AFTER their Rookie year? I hope so. But that doesn't mean the smart way to build a WR group is by paying older WRs 20 million a year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Sure, I'd be open to a friendly wager to charity. Those are always fun and you win even when you lose. How about $50? But to be clear, I'm saying the Jets don't take one at #4 or #10. If they trade back a bunch and draft one in the late 20's or something then that would nullify the bet. I simply don't see JD using a Top 10 pick on a WR who would have gone in Round 2 in last year's Draft when there will be so many better options on the board in the Top 10 at a variety of positions. It's the same thing with QBs this year, man. Not a single guy this year would have been taken before 5 QBs went off the board last year. Heck, Davis Mills might have snuck into the end of Round 1 this year and he went in the 3rd last year. Cool, let’s do it. #4 or #10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Paradis said: lol Lets put money on it. 100$ to the charity of the winner's choice. barring a big trade back, there's no WR going in the top 10. Perfect. Good here as well. Who else? yuu guys are ignoring the tea leaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, derp said: He’s not faster. Moore ran a faster 40 and had a significantly better shuttle. Wilson isn’t an elite prospect. Or frankly close to it. While training for the draft in Phoenix at the EXOS facility, Moore said he lowered his 40 time from 4.56 seconds to 4.35 at his pro day. As of now, Wilson is faster at this point then Moore was. Lets see what wilson runs while HIS coach has the stop watch in his hands at his pro day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The Jets are going to draft 4 lineman with their first four picks. Edge Edge DT O line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: So because WRs get better, we shouldn't try to build a WR group through the draft? Some of these "coaches" are stuck in the 90s. Last year alone: Chase- 1400 yards Waddle 1000 yards Smith 916 yards Amon Ra St Brown- 912 yards Not to mention Pitts was over 1k Yards and Elijah had over 500 while only starting 6 games and playing in 11 WRs are far better equipped to play in the modern NFL that WRs were back "in the good old days" Will these guys reach their potential AFTER their Rookie year? I hope so. But that doesn't mean the smart way to build a WR group is by paying older WRs 20 million a year. This brings a tear to my eye. Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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