Mogglez Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Paradis said: That won't hack, but overpaying Cooper to underdeliver was never gonna be Joe Dougey thing to do. Cooper is a good NFL receiver but he's never delivered on his draft pedigree and has now been traded 2x. Corey Davis Elijah Moore DJ Chark Berrios George Pickens Tell me I'm wrong when i say that looks lit. (well, by Jet standards anyway) If I had any faith that we would snag Chark or Pickens, I’d be sitting here perfectly calm my friend. I think we’re going to be the morons to overpay Kirk or totally ignore significantly upgrading the position until the draft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, nickfoshizal said: Amari cooper is 27 Yeah, and he will be 28 when the season begins. It's the NFL not MLB. WRs fall off a cliff around that time of their career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: If I had any faith that we would snag Chark or Pickens, I’d be sitting here perfectly calm my friend. I think we’re going to be the morons to over pay Kirk or totally ignore significantly upgrading the position until the draft. We talked about this. STAY ON THE WAGON 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I’m fully ready to see we signed Desean Jackson to a 1 year deal. And then James Washington to a 3 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: People are acting like Amari Cooper is Randy Moss. The 2022 league year hasn't even begun. The biggest thing JD needs to do this offseason is surround Wilson with talent. If he fails at that task I'll be dumping on him too. Missing out on Cooper for $20mm/year on March 12th isn't the time to panic. You can probably sign Allen Robinson for less or the same without giving up a draft pick if that's the caliber receiver you're looking for. What makes you think that Robinson would sign with the Jets after spending his career catching passes from horrible quarterbacks in Jacksonville and Chicago? Robinson will want to go to a team with a competent veteran quarterback. We only get Robinson if we overpay for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aussie Jet said: What makes you think that Robinson would sign with the Jets after spending his career catching passes from horrible quarterbacks in Jacksonville and Chicago? Robinson will want to go to a team with a competent veteran quarterback. We only get Robinson if we overpay for him. That's kind of how free agency works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Half this board is going to be thanking Joe Douglas for a 5 win season next year. You guys deserve him and what this team has been the last 3 years under his nap… uh, I mean watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: That's kind of how free agency works. And exactly how Joe Douglas doesnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Green Ghost said: Half this board is going to be thanking Joe Douglas for a 5 win season next year. You guys deserve him and what this team has been the last 3 years. We are winning btwn 7-9 games next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted March 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I don't think you understand how this works. The Bengals didn't have that receiving Corps before they drafted it. The Jets won't have that type of quality by adding 28 year old WRs on the decline. Joe Burrow walked onto the Bengals with a receiver in Tyler Boyd who had just put up this stat line: 90 1046 11.6 47 (long) 5 That would be the best WR season by a Jets WR since 2015. Drafting Elijah Moore doesn’t excuse Joe Douglas’ inability to surround not one, but two, young QBs with capable talent at the WR position right now. I have no faith in the man to replicate anything another successful team has done because he has given me no reason to believe that he knows how to do so. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: We are winning btwn 7-9 games next year. I’ll bet you $100 right now, before FA and the draft they don’t win 9 games. Or you give me $100 every game under 8 I’ll give you $100 every game over 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Green Ghost said: I’ll bet you $100 right now, before FA and the draft they don’t win 9 games. I did not say they were going to win 9 games. I said they are going to win somewhere btwn 7-9 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: I did not say they were going to win 9 games. I said they are going to win somewhere btwn 7-9 games. Look at the second option I just edited in to the bet. You give me $100 for every game under 8, I give you $100 for every game over 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Green Ghost said: Look at the second option I just edited in to the bet. You give me $100 for every game under 8, I give you $100 for every game over 8. Im not a gambler. And its not a smart bet as Zach Wilson could get hurt in week 1 and then Im screwed. Too many variables for that to be a smart bet on my part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Green Ghost said: Look at the second option I just edited in to the bet. You give me $100 for every game under 8, I give you $100 for every game over 8. He’s not going to take that bet because he is a troll who doesn’t believe 95% of the sh*t he’s spewing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: He’s not going to take that bet because he is a troll who doesn’t believe 95% of the sh*t he’s spewing. Im a troll because I believe in this GM and HC. You really pegged me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: Im a troll because I believe in this GM and HC. You really pegged me. SAR did the shame sh*t with Adam Gase. There’s zero chance even he was stupid enough to believe what he was typing during that era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Struggling to see which FA is giving us that production, but sure, yeah that would be as great as me winning the lottery. I think there are guys that are capable. Regardless, I guess I just don’t share your “Santa didn’t get me what I wanted for Christmas” ire over the situation. I never thought it’d happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Im not a gambler. And its not a smart bet as Zach Wilson could get hurt in week 1 and then Im screwed. Too many variables for that to be a smart bet on my part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Integrity28 said: I think there are guys that are capable. Regardless, I guess I just share your “Santa didn’t get me what I wanted for Christmas” ire over the situation. I never thought it’d happen. Fair enough, lol. I’m not even asking Santa for anything exorbitant, just functional on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mogglez said: SAR did the shame sh*t with Adam Gase. There’s zero chance even he was stupid enough to believe what he was typing during that era. I actually believed he did. Adam Gase fooled alot of people with his "Im smarter then you" act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I think there are guys that are capable. Regardless, I guess I just don’t share your “Santa didn’t get me what I wanted for Christmas” ire over the situation. I never thought it’d happen. Problem is that the guys who are capable are also going to have other suitors who have better teams, locations etc. I liked the Cooper trade for the simple reason it was a guarantee to get a vet with upside whos proven he can be successful. Only guy I’d be remotely interested in now is Chark and even that scares me coming off an ACL. We’ve been plagued by injuries for the last few years idk if I’m taking that gamble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 SPEND THE ******* MONEY JOE. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Im a troll because I believe in this GM and HC. You really pegged me. I can’t speak for @Mogglez but I don’t think you’re a troll. You seem like a really good guy who stumbled onto a shtick people got a kick out of, and you went with it. At this point it’s a little played out though. It can still be fun, just save it for the right moments, don’t beat people over the head with it. That’s what I think he means when he says you’re trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: I can’t speak for @Mogglez but I don’t think you’re a troll. You seem like a really good guy who stumbled onto a shtick people got a kick out of, and you went with it. At this point it’s a little played out though. It can still be fun, just save it for the right moments, don’t beat people over the head with it. That’s what I think he means when he says you’re trolling. Oh, I 150% believe that he is a troll. An obnoxious one at that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Joe Burrow walked onto the Bengals with a receiver in Tyler Boyd who had just put up this stat line: 90 1046 11.6 47 (long) 5 That would be the best WR season by a Jets WR since 2015. Drafting Elijah Moore doesn’t excuse Joe Douglas’ inability to surround not one, but two, young QBs with capable talent at the WR position right now. I have no faith in the man to replicate anything another successful team has done because he has given me no reason to believe that he knows how to do so. If douglas doesn’t overthink this draft he will be fine. I think he overthought the 2020 draft but not last year. Last year he went after the guys he liked and many of them flashed. Favorite edge at 4, favorite wr at 10. You do draft positions, not merely graded players. If douglas doesn’t really upgrade the weapons and then moore is out and they’re fielding practice squad wrs and TEs again douglas should be fired. He has the cap and draft capital resources to field a functional offense while also addressing the pass rush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: Oh, I 150% believe that he is a troll. An obnoxious one at that. Thats fine Mogglez. I can take it. But just be sure a year and a half from now when its December and we are battling the Bills for 1st place in the AFC, you credit me for being able to see the forrest for the trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Fair enough, lol. I’m not even asking Santa for anything exorbitant, just functional on offense. Oh, I get it, I just don’t think Amari would have been the only solution. I’d be happy with a DJ Chark in FA, then a rookie WR in round 1-3, then a TE FA and a rookie TE in round 2-4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Thats fine Mogglez. I can take it. But just be sure a year and a half from now when its December and we are battling the Bills for 1st place in the AFC, you credit me for being able to see the forrest for the trees. That’s the whole point of your schtick though, isn’t it? You’re playing the contrarian, hoping by some miracle it works out that this fat, bald, clueless… ah, never mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.GANGGREEN28 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The only reason that I believe JD wasn’t that interested in trading for Cooper is because similar to the draft, GMs have a free agent/trade acquisition big board and Cooper just wasn’t a priority, he likely has other options he wants to pursue. Being that it’s so early in the off-season and Cooper’s cap hit is 20m I’m not upset that we didn’t get him but if we don’t follow through on acquiring a similar talent to upgrade at WR then I think we’ll all look back at this as a missed opportunity. We’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The Jets are not a pass first team ,,, how would you think Cooper would act if he saw the ball maybe 4-5 times a game averaging 40yards ... Diva status hissyfit to try to get outta here. . Glad JD didn't even look at paying him 20 mil Sent from my SM-G996U using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I think it's fair to be disappointed but I don't know how many of us believed he was a long term answer at $20m a year. I think it was more so we could add a good receiver that wouldn't have come here in FA. I still like Robinson or a rookie just as much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Amari Cooper averages 74 rec/1,011 yards/7 TD's per year He's only gotten more productive in Dallas and is still only 27 years old. If that's mediocre production you are a tough grader. Davis was on pace for that with a rookie qb before he got hurt and tons of people here say he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSALLDAY24X Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Mogglez said: “Why trade for a proven commodity that can, at the very least, help Zach grow for a year or two, when you could, potentially, have the next Denzel Mims for the next 4-5 years?!” Yeah the whole singing and trading for proven commodity has worked out really well for us the past decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 JD about to outsmart every one of them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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