More Cowbell Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 12 hours ago, jetblue95 said: disappeared? against LV - he had 6 catches for 64 yards and a TD against Tenn - he had 8 catches for 71 yards he sprained his MCL in the 1st quarter against KC and shocked most people by even suiting up in the SB, where he chipped in with a couple of catches. he's a solid addition given the FA class and all the other TEs who were tagged or otherwise signed. and he played on a team with chase, higgins and boyd, so cincy had plenty of other options, which needs to be accounted for in his counting stats. jets could only pray they had a WR1-3 like cincy. given the insane contracts being handed out, he's a solid addition. I agree with this. He is probably the best FA signing we could have made with all things considered. He will be the first TE we have had in a while that has RAC ability. The guy isn't going to be confused with Kelce but this is definitely an upgrade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 14 hours ago, BigRy56 said: This will be a very underrated signing. He was good in Cincy Pretty mundane TE production. 2021 was far and away his career year, with 493 yards and 5 TD's. but in his 7 year career he's only come remotely close to that level once before (in 2018, 439/3). Most years he's been a sub-250/1 type guy. He would project here as what, an average of 20 catches for 250-300 yards and 1-2 TD, give or take, based on his career-to-date and the quality of our QB play? Seems about equivalent to a slightly-better-Ryan Griffin, production wise. What am I missing here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 13 hours ago, maury77 said: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-nfl-free-agency-rankings-tight-ends He was PFF's 9th rated availalble FA TE. I agree he's an upgrade, but I think huge is a stretch. He had decent numbers last year, but that was with Burrow throwing to him and he was probably the 5th option on offense behind Chase, Higgins, Boyd and Mixon. That's pretty misleading when Schultz/Gesecki/Gronk/Njoku/Ertz are on that list ahead of Uzomah and none were really free agents. The others like Engram/Everett had relatively equal PFF scores. Regardless, one of the main goals this offseason was to improve our TE unit which was awful. It is now significantly more productive. Did you have a better plan for TE this offseason? Was there a player you wanted (higher on that PFF list) that you feel would be markedly better than Uzomah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Like the signing, and I think everyone will like it even more after the draft. By next season he'll be our TE2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastMole Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I don't view the questions being posed as criticism of CJ. There are some of us that are dissatisfied with the receiving numbers put up by CJ but those people don't understand the position. What they want is the production that comes out of a Split-End rather than a Tight-End. CJ is the Traditional Blocking Tight-End that is good for a handful Pass Receptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Is Uzomah good-to-go starting week 1 next year? I know he played in the SB after having an MCL injury but I would imagine he would still need recovery time. And hopefully he didn't aggravate the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, WestCoastMole said: I don't view the questions being posed as criticism of CJ. There are some of us that are dissatisfied with the receiving numbers put up by CJ but those people don't understand the position. What they want is the production that comes out of a Split-End rather than a Tight-End. CJ is the Traditional Blocking Tight-End that is good for a handful Pass Receptions. If Laken is a great run blocker (as advertised) and Uzomah is a good run blocker, that will probably really upgrade our running game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastMole Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: If Laken is a great run blocker (as advertised) and Uzomah is a good run blocker, that will probably really upgrade our running game. That's why I'm looking for the Jets to Draft a Bruiser Back like Tyler Algeier to take some of the load off of Michael Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Regardless, one of the main goals this offseason was to improve our TE unit which was awful. It is now significantly more productive. Um, define "significantly"? Uzomah is a 35 catch, 342 Yard, 2.7 TD a Year guy. Griffin was a 29 catch, 308 Yard, 2.0 TD a Year guy. Is 6 catches, 34 yards and 0.7 TD a year a "significant" upgrade in productivity? Looks to me, on the average, like pretty much the same player production-wise, with Uzo a slight upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: Um, define "significantly"? Uzomah is a 35 catch, 342 Yard, 2.7 TD a Year guy. Griffin was a 29 catch, 308 Yard, 2.0 TD a Year guy. Is 6 catches, 34 yards and 0.7 TD a year a "significant" upgrade in productivity? Looks to me, on the average, like pretty much the same player production-wise, with Uzo a slight upgrade. Uzo does more "dirty" work than Griffin. His career is also on an ascending arc, rather than a flat trajectory. Give the kid credit, he has made something of himself. Watching a bit of the Bengals as they were an interesting watch this year, Uzo did a lot of squaring his body to the QB and gave his qb a target. He did a lot of dig type routes in the middle where he could be the "bail out" on a pass play when other options were not there. That could be huge for a guy like Zach. A security blanket. Also, his yards after the catch were hard earned. He was tough to take down. While I did not see as much of this, his blocking supposedly helped a poor line. As already mentioned by @T0mShane, he is a good locker room guy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Uzo does more "dirty" work than Griffin. His career is also on an ascending arc, rather than a flat trajectory. Give the kid credit, he has made something of himself. Watching a bit of the Bengals as they were an interesting watch this year, Uzo did a lot of squaring his body to the QB and gave his qb a target. He did a lot of dig type routes in the middle where he could be the "bail out" on a pass play when other options were not there. That could be huge for a guy like Zach. A security blanket. Also, his yards after the catch were hard earned. He was tough to take down. While I did not see as much of this, his blocking supposedly helped a poor line. As already mentioned by @T0mShane, he is a good locker room guy Yup, blocking is certainly a form of "production" that stats don't really track, understood. If he's a huge blocking upgrade over Griffin, that's a good thing. Just looking in the aggregate, he doesn't not appear to be a meaningful pass-catching upgrade. Doesn't mean he won't be, maybe he will. But he was what I posted above with better QB's than Wilson, and in better Offenses. And he's been very up and down (two solid years, the rest, meh). Not writing him off, but I wouldn't consider TE sorted out based on this signing. He's more a 2nd tier guy that a true answer from the looks of things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Yup, blocking is certainly a form of "production" that stats don't really track, understood. If he's a huge blocking upgrade over Griffin, that's a good thing. Just looking in the aggregate, he doesn't not appear to be a meaningful pass-catching upgrade. Doesn't mean he won't be, maybe he will. But he was what I posted above with better QB's than Wilson, and in better Offenses. And he's been very up and down (two solid years, the rest, meh). Not writing him off, but I wouldn't consider TE sorted out based on this signing. He's more a 2nd tier guy that a true answer from the looks of things. I believe the expectation that they will be doing more for the position as well. But Uzo is definitely an upgrade over what they had in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 15 hours ago, SR24 said: Huge!!!! Let’s go JD!!! Fills a huge need. Market price for that talent level. It is real money, but not a bloated or foolish contract. Well done. *IF* he actually sings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 once again UZO benefitted from having 3 stud wrs in cincy-he does not have that here -he will be avg at best here but sadly avg is better than what we have now joe fanboys pump up every signing Joe makes but joe is terrible as shown by his actual record on the field-until his team wins actual games the rest of your hype means nothing 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: If Laken is a great run blocker (as advertised) and Uzomah is a good run blocker, that will probably really upgrade our running game. Great observation, a player that makes other players better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, Warfish said: Yup, blocking is certainly a form of "production" that stats don't really track, understood. If he's a huge blocking upgrade over Griffin, that's a good thing. Just looking in the aggregate, he doesn't not appear to be a meaningful pass-catching upgrade. Doesn't mean he won't be, maybe he will. But he was what I posted above with better QB's than Wilson, and in better Offenses. And he's been very up and down (two solid years, the rest, meh). Not writing him off, but I wouldn't consider TE sorted out based on this signing. He's more a 2nd tier guy that a true answer from the looks of things. Agree with this for the most part. Top level of the second tier. However, that is very much sufficient. Not every team has the luxury of an elite tight end, but every team needs a decent tight end where as the Jets have not had much of any tight end. There is also the eye test. Not only is he a much better blocker than any TE on the roster, the eye test also suggests he is a very nice rout runner and pass catcher. He's very aggressive to the ball. It will come down to scheme/function. The ability to make a substantial contribution is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere but the Jets may still be in the market for another TE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Pretty mundane TE production. 2021 was far and away his career year, with 493 yards and 5 TD's. but in his 7 year career he's only come remotely close to that level once before (in 2018, 439/3). Most years he's been a sub-250/1 type guy. He would project here as what, an average of 20 catches for 250-300 yards and 1-2 TD, give or take, based on his career-to-date and the quality of our QB play? Seems about equivalent to a slightly-better-Ryan Griffin, production wise. What am I missing here? Maybe Zach Wilson isn't here after this year. If he gets upgraded protection and targets AND still sucks, then he will be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: I believe the expectation that they will be doing more for the position as well. But Uzo is definitely an upgrade over what they had in my opinion. I hope so, that would be great. Just not seeing any real evidence of it in the facts. Getting alot of "well, the eye test" type replies, which says alot. Our Fans think he'll be a big upgrade, but aren't really pointing to how beyond intangibles and unmeasurables, lol. Guess we'll see. I hope you all are right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantasy Island said: Maybe Zach Wilson isn't here after this year. If he gets upgraded protection and targets AND still sucks, then he will be replaced. I agree with this. The Jets may "ROSEN" him if he does not play good and with regularity. Forget about looking for "flashes" of talent. That is a rookie year consolation. He has to show up early and often as much improved. If we still see a struggling QB week to week this coming season, it will be time to start planning ahead with respect to franchise QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I'm glad we signed TJ Houshmandzadeh yesterday but I still think we need another TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Uzomah might have not had amazing stats, he's better than our 'dynamic duo' we currently have. I like this signing a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ScarletKnight89 Posted March 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2022 Strong signing by Joe Douglas. He's small at 5'9 but he's been very good in coverage and in run support over the last few years. He's also only 25. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Former Niner. Started 14 games for Seattle last year. Really good unbers in coverage last two years. Passer rating aginst of 75.9 and 67.8 Games Pass Coverage Pass Rush Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int Tgt Cmp Cmp% Yds Yds/Cmp Yds/Tgt TD Rat DADOT Air YAC Bltz Hrry QBKD Sk Prss Comb MTkl MTkl% 2018 22 SFO 32 15 2 0 16 14 87.5% 122 8.7 7.6 1 119.3 9.3 61 61 8 2 0 1.0 3 41 5 10.9% 2019 23 SFO 32 16 0 0 12 8 66.7% 109 13.6 9.1 1 123.3 5.8 41 68 2 1 0 0.0 1 13 1 7.1% 2020 24 SEA RCB 29 10 8 2 59 38 64.4% 404 10.6 6.8 1 75.8 9.3 302 102 9 1 0 0.0 1 62 2 3.1% 2021 25 SEA CB 2 14 14 2 88 42 47.7% 507 12.1 5.8 3 67.8 10.6 344 163 0 0 0 0.0 0 78 6 7.1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sonny Werblin Posted March 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2022 Played for Coach in Frisco and playing only in Frisco and Seattle, he knows the system. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post T0mShane Posted March 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2022 He was really good/active for the Seahawks last year. Saved Jamal’s worthless ass a number of times 4 1 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Lith said: Former Niner. Started 14 games for Seattle last year. Really good unbers in coverage last two years Games Pass Coverage Pass Rush Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int Tgt Cmp Cmp% Yds Yds/Cmp Yds/Tgt TD Rat DADOT Air YAC Bltz Hrry QBKD Sk Prss Comb MTkl MTkl% 2018 22 SFO 32 15 2 0 16 14 87.5% 122 8.7 7.6 1 119.3 9.3 61 61 8 2 0 1.0 3 41 5 10.9% 2019 23 SFO 32 16 0 0 12 8 66.7% 109 13.6 9.1 1 123.3 5.8 41 68 2 1 0 0.0 1 13 1 7.1% 2020 24 SEA RCB 29 10 8 2 59 38 64.4% 404 10.6 6.8 1 75.8 9.3 302 102 9 1 0 0.0 1 62 2 3.1% 2021 25 SEA CB 2 14 14 2 88 42 47.7% 507 12.1 5.8 3 67.8 10.6 344 163 0 0 0 0.0 0 78 6 7.1 Well he did have Mal carrying the load back there in the back of Sea's defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2022 PFF Grade of 78.6 is nice, especially since he is generally tasked with covering his own guy and the guy that Jamal Adams "opted out" of covering. 3 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: PFF Grade of 78.6 is nice, especially since he is generally tasked with covering his own guy and the guy that Jamal Adams "opted out" of covering. Just beat me to it. Grades out well per PFF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Wonder if this rules out a sauce or CB pick now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 You have your new starting Slot CB vs. 3-wide formations and you move MC2 back to his collegiate position FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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