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13 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

This guy looks like a pass rush specialist. He had 4 sacks, 2 QB hits, and 32 QB hurries last year. So he's definitely someone who can come in as a depth/rotational player on passing downs and be productive. 

The hurries are almost as good as the sacks.  Whatever it takes to not allow the QB to be as comfortable as they were last year against us.

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44 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said:

Slightly different # reported here

The Jets have been active in the early days of free agency and their moves now include the addition of a pass rusher to their defense.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the team has struck a deal with former Texans edge rusher Jacob Martin. It’s a three-year, $13.5 million deal with $6 million in guaranteed money.

Martin was a 2018 sixth-round pick of the Seahawks and he was traded to the Texans before his second NFL season. He played a rotational role in his first two seasons in Houston before starting 14 games in 2021.

Martin had 23 tackles and four sacks in his final year with the Texans and has 13.5 career sacks.

Jets will sign Jacob Martin originally appeared on Pro Football Talk

Not really, the other report says he can earn "up to".  Must have roster bonus or whatever in his deal that could bring him up. couple of mil

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19 minutes ago, slats said:

Edge is still a genuine need. This guy is a rotational piece, the team needs another starter. I could see a guy like Travon Walker, who tested off the charts and can play inside and out, being the pick. And I agree that WR is the other big need, although the additions at TE reduce that need somewhat. Still feeling Edge-WR in the first, though. Premium positions with premium picks. 
 
After that, LB is probably the only other starter they might be looking for in the draft. A rotational RB, maybe. Some better depth on the OL and in the secondary. So far, so good. 

Had that feeling for quite some time. Walker seems like the type of player that both Saleh and Douglas would love. I really think he's a likely pick for the Jets at 4.

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Brett Kollman (the guy who does YouTube videos about players - famously one about how Hack was going to be good) is a Houston Texans fan.  Would be interesting to see what he has to say about Jacob Martin.  Haven't seen anything on his Twitter about it yet though.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Had that feeling for quite some time. Walker seems like the type of player that both Saleh and Douglas would love. I really think he's a likely pick for the Jets at 4.

Don’t know how I feel about that. Ambiguous at best. 
 

Another Combine Wunderkid like Vernon or a player misused/buried in depth chart on a stacked  college team?

 

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34 minutes ago, slats said:

Edge is still a genuine need. This guy is a rotational piece, the team needs another starter. I could see a guy like Travon Walker, who tested off the charts and can play inside and out, being the pick. And I agree that WR is the other big need, although the additions at TE reduce that need somewhat. Still feeling Edge-WR in the first, though. Premium positions with premium picks. 
 
After that, LB is probably the only other starter they might be looking for in the draft. A rotational RB, maybe. Some better depth on the OL and in the secondary. So far, so good. 

Agree on Edge, WR, LB, depth.  How about starting Defensive Tackle who can stop the run, not named Rankins?  Where do you see us going here?

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13 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Had that feeling for quite some time. Walker seems like the type of player that both Saleh and Douglas would love. I really think he's a likely pick for the Jets at 4.

Tibs as some people here call him is dropping. Walker is moving up. If you take everything into consideration.  It's very understandable. 

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4 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Agree on Edge, WR, LB, depth.  How about starting Defensive Tackle who can stop the run, not named Rankins?  Where do you see us going here?

I don’t see it as a priority. At least not with a high pick or big money. Day three draft pick, most likely. Also the sort of position I could see as a late summer cast-off pickup. 

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47 minutes ago, Copernicus said:

Lol, yeah, YouTube can make all of us look like prospects. I am reading he is weak against the run. Thinking this is a depth signing to compete with Huff and Tim Ward (?)

Passing situations they kick JFM inside, get another edge on the field. Figured that’d be a draft pick role as they develop, but can’t have too many rushers.

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42 minutes ago, derp said:

Passing situations they kick JFM inside, get another edge on the field. Figured that’d be a draft pick role as they develop, but can’t have too many rushers.

I think that is the beauty of having a player with JFM’s versatility. He’s effective as an edge, and even MORE effective as a 3Technique DT (but just would wear out playing in there all game) for this scheme. He’s a 2-1 value as a roster spot and sub-packages as an Edge or DT. 
 

Jets need to draft Edge high and a DT for rotational depth to play along Q, Rankins, Marshall, and Shepherd.

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1 hour ago, genot said:

Doesn't make much sense to me. Letting Moses go for less.  Would rather have resigned Moses for that, than this guy.

Moses wasn’t re-signing with the Jets for anywhere near what he got from the Ravens.  Would you rather be a starter on a perennial playoff team or competing for a starting job on a team that hasn’t made the playoffs in 11 years (the same competition you lost coming out of training camp the previous season)?  News flash: LDT may sign a cheap deal somewhere else rather than come back to us as our backup G.

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3 hours ago, KRL said:

I wonder if Martin played limited snaps as a situational pass rusher
because his production isn't fantastic.  If he did see limited snaps
then Douglas/Saleh must be betting on his upside:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3138764/jacob-martin

 

He gets about 4 sacks a year over the last 4 years, and for his career he has created pressure 106 times on 943 pass rush snaps, which is a pressure rate of 11.2% and is above the 2021 league average for edge rushers)-this is from ganggreennation.com. So, while sacks are great, having a high pressure rate like that has many hidden stats like causing incompletions, interceptions, other inaccurate throws that prevent receivers from getting yards, etc. He could be a good fit and we can still draft a pass rusher in the 1st 2 rounds. 

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49 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said:

He gets about 4 sacks a year over the last 4 years, and for his career he has created pressure 106 times on 943 pass rush snaps, which is a pressure rate of 11.2% and is above the 2021 league average for edge rushers)-this is from ganggreennation.com. So, while sacks are great, having a high pressure rate like that has many hidden stats like causing incompletions, interceptions, other inaccurate throws that prevent receivers from getting yards, etc. He could be a good fit and we can still draft a pass rusher in the 1st 2 rounds. 

I think this is the general plan in a nutshell... pressure. If you have a rotational group of edge/pass rushers, all with different techniques, the odds of a offensive line misstep and hopefully gets fatigued in the latter stages of a game. Good post.

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Never heard of this guy before, but it sounds like Saleh got a situational guy who is going to be fresh off the bench putting pressure on the QB while the starters take a breather. Vinny Curry 2.0. I'm not going to complain about depth players who have the ability to disrupt the QB. This might end up being a hidden gem of a move. 

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Here's some skinny on Martin...

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/03/texans-jacob-martin-talking-contract

"Pro Football Focus handed Martin a solid 67.3 overall score last season, which was also a career-high. The strides he has made are thanks in no small part to the fact that he was able to operate as a true 4-3 DE when Lovie Smith took over as defensive coordinator last year."

"Next Gen Stats credited Martin with the third-fastest “get-off” among all defensive players, behind only the Chargers’ Joey Bosa and the Steelers’ Alex Highsmith."

 

 

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34 minutes ago, LockeJET said:

I love that we are filling most of all our needs before the draft. It really puts us in a great situation to take best available player And not panic on a certain position. Wide receiver remains one of our major needs and that’s about it. I have a feeling either via trade or signing  we will have another wide receiver on the roster before the draft. 

I would mostly agree Locke, however, for me, I would be ok with Wr room currently but adding a 2-3d round developmental pick. I can see taking a Wr in round 1, would not complain at all. I am also excited to see Berrios continue to grow. He really could develop into an above average player. Is getting Corey Davis back on track, Moore healthy, and Berrios to take the next step too much to ask? I dont think we are that bad off but would also agree supporting Wilson with another weapon at Wr. 

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5 hours ago, slats said:

Edge is still a genuine need. This guy is a rotational piece, the team needs another starter. I could see a guy like Travon Walker, who tested off the charts and can play inside and out, being the pick. And I agree that WR is the other big need, although the additions at TE reduce that need somewhat. Still feeling Edge-WR in the first, though. Premium positions with premium picks. 
 
After that, LB is probably the only other starter they might be looking for in the draft. A rotational RB, maybe. Some better depth on the OL and in the secondary. So far, so good. 

Wharton @ 4, Jordan Davis @ 10, then trade back to the 32nd pick and steal Nakobe Dean.

If the fat, bald ,bastid pulls this off, I'll buy Uga  a coat of many colors so he doesn't have

to freeze his furry nuts off!

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This is a very good signing. You need rotational pass rushers to close out games. these days. Otherwise, the big fellas are just too gassed to create any pressure. With Lawson, Huff, Martin and the Edge Rusher we select in the draft we will be in an ideal position to close out games.

I really do love the way JD is putting this team together. The only remaining thing I'd like to see before the draft is the signing of a LB, but that may not be necessary if their internal evaluations of Hamsah Nasirildeen indicate that he is ready to start.

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4 hours ago, Irish Jet said:

He's basically a better version of Bryce Huff. A solid depth piece but not a guy you want to be relying on, as we seen with Huff last year.

With Lawson and in all likelihood a top 10 pick it's shaping up to be a pretty good group. The interior is still a concern. 

This guy could have 8 sacks this year and alot of pressures!

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