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19 minutes ago, Larz said:

Not being a wise ass,( for once) but why ?  

Because JD is not as leak proof as people say 

This is not really a preference but a prediction. 

Everybody is talking about the defense but the week 18 bills game was the worst offensive output in franchise history. They need to improve the offense. Jd needs to help Zach. A decent guard and 2 mediocre tight ends is not enough. 

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2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

How did everyone know that the Jets were going to pick Zach wilson? 

I don't have 100 percent certainty but Google "drake london Jets" and connect the dots. Everyone has this projection. Everyone.

It makes sense from the system perspective, from the ZW needs a security blanket perspective etc. It even makes sense from a roster build perspective because they did not ever sign that Allen Robinson type everyone wanted. They don't have the luxury of taking a jauan Jennings in Rd 7 and developing him. They have to draft more offense right now and drake london is a bad ball specialist like plexico or Keyshawn. 

Yeah, I think 

5'10" Moore

5'8" Berrios

6'3" Davis (who plays small)

Yes, we added two nice TE's - but a big target WR would be ideal.

I know very little about him, but if he can't get any separation like many say here - it's clearly not a good pick, but I also then don't think he would be projected as a 1st round talent if that were the case.

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

Yeah, I think 

5'10" Moore

5'8" Berrios

6'3" Davis (who plays small)

Yes, we added two nice TE's - but a big target WR would be ideal.

I know very little about him, but if he can't get any separation like many say here - it's clearly not a good pick, but I also then don't think he would be projected as a 1st round talent if that were the case.

Davis is a wr2 Y. Moore is versatile but he can't be expected to beat cb1 coverage all the time. He's basically a Z and so is berrios. They lack an X. 

That separation thing is bullsh*t by the way 

Drake london is an instant star 

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-uscs-drake-london-wr1-in-the-2022-nfl-draft

 

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Just now, Origen said:

What's our hit rate on USC guys?  AVT yes, Sam and Mark no.  Leo kinda?  I dunno I don't trust that school very much.  Gimme a Hofstra guy.

Keyshawn Johnson was a hit. Leonard Williams is a pro bowl player. 

This is like asking about  Garrett wilson because of Ohio state guys. The jets took Mangold and also gholston. 

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45 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

If those picks were swapped it might make more sense to me.

We make assumptions about the WR rankings but I wonder how teams really feel about the prospects.  I remember it shocked me when the Falcons came all the way up for Julio Jones.  Lot of smokescreens, and the lack of discussion on London makes me wonder if teams are higher on him than the media.

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25 minutes ago, maury77 said:

Both really. I think London lacks explosion out of his cuts and will have difficulty getting separation in the NFL and I'm skeptical of his YAC ability translating. 

Not many 6'5 215-220ish WRs are going to meet those criteria. It's not how he wins at football. 

Elijah Moore needs that explosion and/or quickness to beat defenders, same with Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave. Mike Evans and prospects like London do not. London is never going to impress you with his seperation skills (just like Evans/Claypool). 

From Mike Evans scouting report:

  • Will have to make a living in traffic at the next level -- will struggle to separate 
  • Monotone mover with pedestrian speed -- cannot separate vertically or pull away from the pack

Again, I am not pushing for him at 4. But if the Jets view him as the best WR and they have reason to think another team will take him between 5-9, it's not criminal to take him at 4. 

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2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

That separation thing is bullsh*t by the way 

Drake london is an instant star 

Good to know...I hope to watch some video on all of these guys.

But if there's a man his size and that can beat man coverage - then he's my guy for sure.  

Yes, we need an X.

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6 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Because JD is not as leak proof as people say 

This is not really a preference but a prediction. 

Everybody is talking about the defense but the week 18 bills game was the worst offensive output in franchise history. They need to improve the offense. Jd needs to help Zach. A decent guard and 2 mediocre tight ends is not enough. 

Ok txs for the reply 

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2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Keyshawn Johnson was a hit. Leonard Williams is a pro bowl player. 

This is like asking about  Garrett wilson because of Ohio state guys. The jets took Mangold and also gholston. 

Precisely.  Find me the second-coming of Wayne Chrebet as a UDFA out of nowhere and we'll be better off than throwing darts at these guys.

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2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Davis is a wr2 Y. Moore is versatile but he can't be expected to beat cb1 coverage all the time. He's basically a Z and so is berrios. They lack an X. 

That separation thing is bullsh*t by the way 

Drake london is an instant star 

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-uscs-drake-london-wr1-in-the-2022-nfl-draft

 

I haven't seen you this sold on who the Jets should pick since Penai Sewell. 

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Just now, playtowinthegame said:

I haven't seen you this sold on who the Jets should pick since Penai Sewell. 

Sewell is who I wanted them to pick. Drake london is who they are going to pick 

It is funny however that they could take a Neal or Ikey and move Becton to rt. Before the 21 season people said that Becton was an all pro lt etc now he's fighting for his job.

We can certainly see an OT pick and moving Becton to rt now 

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There's a false notion that Sauce should be the one drafted 1st due to your PFF, ProFootballNetwork, Draft Machine (thedraftnetwork.com) draft simulators. 

Below are 3 highly prestigious analysis. All 3 have Gardner going 10th overall to the Jets! Not one of these guys had him earlier or later. This is where they had London.

Daniel Jeremiah's (7th)

Todd McShay (8th)

Mel Kiper (4th) Jets!

Anything can happen and they could be wrong, however it isn't crazy to believe that that London could go prior to Sauce in the event they were both selected to the Jets. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Jesus christ London isn’t even close to being a top 5 prospect. I just don’t see it.

I’ll be annoyed if we take him at 10. Sick if we take him at 4.

I spoke to a pac12 person about drake london not too long ago and the dude just said "drake london is the usc offense. Period." jd probably got the same scouting report. 

What's the problem? 

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14 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Davis is a wr2 Y. Moore is versatile but he can't be expected to beat cb1 coverage all the time. He's basically a Z and so is berrios. They lack an X. 

That separation thing is bullsh*t by the way 

Drake london is an instant star 

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-uscs-drake-london-wr1-in-the-2022-nfl-draft

 

Hmmmm.    You make a good point.  I’m weakening lol

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7 minutes ago, bitonti said:

I spoke to a pac12 person about drake london not too long ago and the dude just said "drake london is the usc offense. Period." jd probably got the same scouting report. 

What's the problem? 

People view all prospects with the same template. They don't see the speed and quickness, so they immediately rule him out. They would have ruled out Mike Evans as well. 

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58 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

Hard to really judge London before the USC pro day.

Cause USC pro days haven proven out in the past ... see Darnold and Sanchez for living proof of that.

I am all for the Drake at 10.

 

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5 minutes ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said:


I do believe he’s visited the UK, but not moving there, lol, I kid...... I kid......?

In length, height, and contested catch ability. 

Toon had deeper speed that London lacks.

Plaxico Burress is a good comp. London Maybe a little faster than plax and a little shorter but both players make a living bodying out cornerbacks and catching garbage balls. Rebounders who can win the jump ball or end zone fades. He can also block better than Burks and Wilson, which matters to the jets 

I get that 4 is high but in this draft with no quarterbacks in the top 15 it is what it is. 

And the wide out market also plays a role. The jets cannot buy a wr 1 they have to draft him 

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3 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Cause USC pro days haven proven out in the past ... see Darnold and Sanchez for living proof of that.

I am all for the Drake at 10.

 

He's a receiver that hasn't tested athletically yet. The jury is still out until we see. 

They were quarterbacks. Pro days are overrated for them.

If anything, USC quarterbacks should do tackling drills at pro days. Will it be a turnover or a pick six?

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1 hour ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

This offseason has been an unforgettable one in the NFL. Multiple star players have found themselves on the mood, and many teams have made franchise-altering transactions during the early portions of free agency. Following the initial wave of free agency, ESPN NFL Draft expert Mel Kiper has released his NFL mock draft 3.0, featuring some significant changes throughout his projected first round.

While quarterbacks get a lot of the attention, the rest of this draft class has been seriously shaken up in Kiper’s latest NFL mock. There is a new top overall selection, which caused ripple effects throughout the entirety of the first round. It’s important to note that free agency is far from over, and there are still plenty of changes to be made across the league. But here is Kiper’s latest NFL mock draft.

Kiper’s NFL mock draft 3.0

Jacksonville Jaguars: Michigan DE Aidan Hutchinson

2. Detroit Lions: Notre Dame S Kyle Hamilton

3. Houston Texans: NC State OT Ikem Ekwonu

 

At least Kiper realizes Ickey is going in the top three.  I would not be surprised to see him go first overall to Jacksonville.  Best player in the draft, and Jacksonville needs to build a line for Lawrence.  

It's a shame.  I REALLY wanted Ickey to go to the Jets.  

Given that Ickey will be gone, the second best player on my big board is Sauce.  If JD has brains, it may very well be that Sauce goes to the Jets at number 4 once Ickey is gone at 1, or 3.  

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1 hour ago, PS17 said:

Not crazy about London, especially at 4. At this point I’m happy waiting until pick 35 to grab a “second tier” WR. Second tier in quotation marks because I don’t think there is that much separating Wilson/Burks/London from the next group. 
 

Gotta grab edge at 4 or 10. 

Yea grab another Mimms 

Why not

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