Waka Flocka Flacco Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Whole season gonna be a Mexican standoff. Mormon standoff. Mexican standoff was 2013. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, varjet said: OJ hit it on the head for me. Why would a team that almost made it to the Super Bowl get rid of one of its best offensive weapons? Paying weapons like Deebo is how you go to the Super Bowl, even if it means you crash later. Well…the 49ers created a mess for themselves by drafting an QB at 3, who may not be very good, in addition to having to pay Jimmy G. So why would the Jets who picked a QB at 2 in the 2021 draft be willing to pay Deebo (plus a draft pick) whereas the 49ers who picked a QB at 3 in that same draft won’t. Does not make sense to me. Yes, the Jets do not have to pay Jimmy G, but we pay Mosley and others. If I am the 49ers I am trading one of Jimmy or Lance Asap. But the 49ers know that Woody is switched on here and looking to do something stupid, and they are willing to cash that in and roll with Aiyuk and the draft picks they will get from the Jets. I think both teams are going to screw this up. 49ers are going to have to pay Bosa $30 million per year soon. They have 33 FA's next year including 6 starters and a number of other very important depth payers. And only $37 million in cap space to do so. That's why they don't pay Deebo if they get a deal they like. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, RSJ said: Bills won a Super Bowl? Bills are a good team - but lets not confuse them with the 1992 Cowboys. Yeah those teams picked the right QBs and they developed them. Similarly they also picked and developed the right guys at other positions too. Where was TJ Watt selected again? See the pattern? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app So a trade is only a success if you win the Super Bowl? You're moving the goal posts. There's nothing remotely negative you can realistically say about the Diggs trade. That was a homerun. Believe whatever you want. Like you said, the trade probably won't happen anyway. And FYI, take a game away from Deebo last year - Coles still never had a season that good here. Deebo averaged 18 yards per catch last season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 So a trade is only a success if you win the Super Bowl? You're moving the goal posts. There's nothing remotely negative you can realistically say about the Diggs trade. That was a homerun. Believe whatever you want. Like you said, the trade probably won't happen anyway. And FYI, take a game away from Deebo last year - Coles still never had a season that good here. Deebo averaged 18 yards per catch last season. Ok so we arent trying to win a super bowl now? Whats the goal here then?Maybe the Diggs trade was good or maybe they could have kept the pick, picked a WR to develop him cheaper and a defender to get KC off the field in OT. Buffalo isnt that great anyway. The AFC East was down last year. Jets were young, NE was developing a QB and Miami isnt that good. Deebo has a long way to go to have a career as good as Coles and he is two years in age behind him.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, RSJ said: Ok so we arent trying to win a super bowl now? Whats the goal here then? Maybe the Diggs trade was good or maybe they could have kept the pick, picked a WR to develop him cheaper and a defender to get KC off the field in OT. Buffalo isnt that great anyway. The AFC East was down last year. Jets were young, NE was developing a QB and Miami isnt that good. Deebo has a long way to go to have a career as good as Coles and he is two years in age behind him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Maybe the Diggs trade was good. Right. Maybe I've had enough of this very silly discussion. Enjoy your night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Maybe the Diggs trade was good. Right. Maybe I've had enough of this very silly discussion. Enjoy your night. Goodnight. Try to erase Diggs burning our practice squad CB out or your memory. The Bills arent that good.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, varjet said: OJ hit it on the head for me. Why would a team that almost made it to the Super Bowl get rid of one of its best offensive weapons? Paying weapons like Deebo is how you go to the Super Bowl, even if it means you crash later. Well…the 49ers created a mess for themselves by drafting an QB at 3, who may not be very good, in addition to having to pay Jimmy G. So why would the Jets who picked a QB at 2 in the 2021 draft be willing to pay Deebo (plus a draft pick) whereas the 49ers who picked a QB at 3 in that same draft won’t. Does not make sense to me. Yes, the Jets do not have to pay Jimmy G, but we pay Mosley and others. If I am the 49ers I am trading one of Jimmy or Lance Asap. But the 49ers know that Woody is switched on here and looking to do something stupid, and they are willing to cash that in and roll with Aiyuk and the draft picks they will get from the Jets. I think both teams are going to screw this up. the 49ers are not trading a QB because 1) they traded up for Lance and 2) Garrapolo is coming off an injury and is not healthy now and they can't get value for him. They do not want to trade Lance because they believe his is their future and they have no buyers from JG coming off shoulder surgery ( I think). So they are stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, RSJ said: Ok so we arent trying to win a super bowl now? Whats the goal here then? Maybe the Diggs trade was good or maybe they could have kept the pick, picked a WR to develop him cheaper and a defender to get KC off the field in OT. Buffalo isnt that great anyway. The AFC East was down last year. Jets were young, NE was developing a QB and Miami isnt that good. Deebo has a long way to go to have a career as good as Coles and he is two years in age behind him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app What is so hard to understand? The Jets need and want a sure thing and do not want to bet it all on draft picks if they can help it. Not every highly drafted receiver is worth it. Samuel gives them WR1 production right from the start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Here is the latest…The Jets have a chance.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 “The Jets.... who seem really desperate.” lol no shizit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Here is the latest…The Jets have a chance.. He thinks Jets will give up the #10 and a 2nd rounder (or two)? No chance. This guy is a 49ers fan with wishful thinking. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Irish Jet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 hours ago, RSJ said: Coles had 1264 yards in his third season, in 16 games, and he wasnt 26 years old, he was 24. But continue……... Yeah you know there's agenda's when you're seeing sh*t like this. Coles turned 25 in December of 02. Deebo turned 26 in January of 22. There literally wasn't even 12 months between their respective ages let alone 2 years. And Coles peaked with that year. Deebo literally scored twice as many touchdowns last season as Coles ever did in a single season and got 1700+ all purpose yards. The comparison is absurd. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Yeah you know there's agenda's when you're seeing sh*t like this. Coles turned 25 in December of 02. Deebo turned 26 in January of 22. There literally wasn't even 12 months between their respective ages let alone 2 years. And Coles peaked with that year. Deebo literally scored twice as many touchdowns last season as Coles ever did in a single season and got 1700+ all purpose yards. The comparison is absurd. Coles also played in an era where is was much harder to make a reception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 What is so hard to understand? The Jets need and want a sure thing and do not want to bet it all on draft picks if they can help it. Not every highly drafted receiver is worth it. Samuel gives them WR1 production right from the start. He better... anything less that 1200 yards an 10 tds would be and abject failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Ok so we arent trying to win a super bowl now? Whats the goal here then?Maybe the Diggs trade was good or maybe they could have kept the pick, picked a WR to develop him cheaper and a defender to get KC off the field in OT. Buffalo isnt that great anyway. The AFC East was down last year. Jets were young, NE was developing a QB and Miami isnt that good. Deebo has a long way to go to have a career as good as Coles and he is two years in age behind him.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile appThe goals are to build a perennial winner with strength throughout the roster, see improvement in execution accross the board, see elevated play over last year from Wilson, contend for the division title yearly, have a healthy balance sheet and not overload one single guy ala Watson, make better hot dogs, get better uniforms.If that takes another year to come to fruition I'm good w that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Jets4Life1979 said: On the 49ers message boards they're already predictably turning on Deebo, saying he sucks, he's overrated....starting to whine and moan already https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/191946-1st-team-all-pro-deebo-samuel-wr-south-carolina/page382/ Look what they thought of him by the end of the season. Comparisons to Bo Jackson, Terrell Owens and Goku. Also props to the guy worried about his contract situation. Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 49'ers fans starting whine and moan and turn on Deebo. Same for a cadre of Jets' fans. Trade sure to happen. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Coles also played in an era where is was much harder to make a reception. This would have been a better point to make but Coles still never finished top 5 in receiving for a season, let alone top 5 in yards from scrimmage. He was just never the explosive threat Deebo was and to pretend otherwise is insane. The concern with Deebo and the only legitimate one is injuries. You do wonder if after getting paid he will still play through any niggles. I still think it's worth the risk, certainly when looking at the WR's available in the draft and right now the priority still has to be giving Zach Wilson every opportunity to succeed. With Deebo we instantly have an elite set of WR's. A high end 1, 2, 3 and 4. That is how you help a QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, Dunnie said: He better... anything less that 1200 yards an 10 tds would be and abject failure. how about 1150 yds and 9 tds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Just now, neckdemon said: how about 1150 yds and 9 tds? Cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Barton said: Not gonna lie, #10 + a big contract for Deebo is alittle concerning. He's not a traditional receiver, you have to move him around gadget style. You just get him the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Cut.Only if there is NO dead money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/191946-1st-team-all-pro-deebo-samuel-wr-south-carolina/page382/ Look what they thought of him by the end of the season. Comparisons to Bo Jackson, Terrell Owens and Goku. Also props to the guy worried about his contract situation. Nailed it. "We should honestly consider drafting his replacement. It's unlikely he'll have a long career." ... that guy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 7 hours ago, RSJ said: Goodnight. Try to erase Diggs burning our practice squad CB out or your memory. The Bills arent that good. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app And josh Allen isn't a top 3 qb in the nfl. Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Anything from shefter or rap ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Here is the latest…The Jets have a chance.. This guy could learn a thing or two from Doomed Prophet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 You’d think the 9ers would’ve squashed the Pauline report by now to control their fans expectations. You have to think we are in negotiations with the 9ers as we speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Anything from shefter or rap ? Just that Tony Pauline is a liar.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, oatmeal said: You’d think the 9ers would’ve squashed the Pauline report by now to control their fans expectations. You have to think we are in negotiations with the 9ers as we speak But shefter has nothing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Here is the latest…The Jets have a chance.. no fu*&kng way do we send 10 overall and our 2 second round picks unless Bosa is coming too... lol Deebo for 10 and a later pick or a player, maybe / probably. but not the 2 second round picks included also. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/191946-1st-team-all-pro-deebo-samuel-wr-south-carolina/page382/ Look what they thought of him by the end of the season. Comparisons to Bo Jackson, Terrell Owens and Goku. Also props to the guy worried about his contract situation. Nailed it. Thank you for the link. It is amazing that some of those fans literally predicted the current contract problems and that the 49ers brass couldn’t foresee this situation coming is stunning to me. It just reinforces the reality of just because you are a FO guy doesn’t mean you know what you are doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 8 hours ago, choon328 said: 49ers are going to have to pay Bosa $30 million per year soon. They have 33 FA's next year including 6 starters and a number of other very important depth payers. And only $37 million in cap space to do so. That's why they don't pay Deebo if they get a deal they like. Let’s take the Bosa problem off their hands too. Deebo and Bosa for 10, 38, and a future 2023 pick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Every hour closer to the Draft Deebo isn’t a Jet I’m happy. I don’t want him. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Every hour closer to the Draft Deebo isn’t a Jet I’m happy. I don’t want him. I don't want him for some of the crazy prices that are being thrown around out there on Twatter - two #1s plus Elijah Moore, FFS. He's Deebo Samuel, not Jerry Rice. I'd give up our 10 for Deebo, and even then I would feel like I overpaid. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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