T0mShane Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Seems likely that Hill was only going to go to Miami and the Chiefs “accepted” the relatively sh*tty Jets offer to motivate the Dolphins to pay up. Chiefs went from having minimal leverage to having plenty of leverage, thanks to the Jets. It’s gross that Douglas would even be dipping his toes into that water anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, Hex said: Sounds like Hill did some talking with Miami so he wouldn't go to the Jets Nah, it's his agent Rosenhaus. If anything, he used the Jets to get the fins on board. One, he's a fins fan, two, he lives down here and three, he has a local sports here in South Florida. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Who? The Jett’s ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Quincy Williams needs to lay the wood on this guy, and send him into an early retirement. If he doesn't take the right angle, he's giving up a 70 yard touchdown, but it's worth the risk. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 this guy is slimy but good at his job at the same time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 If Metcalf gets traded, we likely are losing out on him for the same reasons. Dude wouldn't want to play for the Chiefs because it gets too cold. Adams to Vegas. Hill to Miami. There is a theme with these diva WRs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Green Ghost Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Maybe I’m miss reading what happened. However, if I’m not, and the Dolphins weren’t previously inloved, and Rosenhaus goes to tell the Dolphins, hey you better get involved or he’s going to the Jets, isn’t that looking out for the best interest of the Dolphins more than Hill? 20 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I am sure Tyreek's agent didn't use the Jets to drive up his salary with the Dolphins because Drew Rosenhaus is too good of a guy. I am also sure the Chiefs didn't use the Jets vs Dolphins to drive up the amount of compensation they got from the fish. Do you think the Chiefs just let the fish decide what was fair? Here’s what I think. As the story goes, the Jets and Chiefs agreed on terms of a trade. In order for them to go through with it, however, the Jets needed Hill to agree to an extension. Rosenhaus knew his client wouldn’t be happy playing here, so he went to Miami (Hill’s hometown team) and made them aware of the situation. The Fins then proposed a similar offer to the Chiefs, who then let Hill decide which team he wanted. Why? Because once again, if he doesn’t sign a new deal nobody was giving the Chiefs all those picks. The Chief didn’t care which of the two teams Hill signed with because both packages were the same. They just wanted him to sign off so they got the picks. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: Here’s what I think. As the story goes, the Jets and Chiefs agreed on terms of a trade. In order for them to go through with it, however, the Jets needed Hill to agree to an extension. Rosenhaus knew his client wouldn’t be happy playing here, so he went to Miami (Hill’s hometown team) and made them aware of the situation. The Fins then proposed a similar offer to the Chiefs, who then let Hill decide which team he wanted. Why? Because once again, if he doesn’t sign a new deal nobody was giving the Chiefs all those picks. That doesn't disprove my point that the amount the Dolphins had to give up was driven by what the Jets were willing to give. If the Jets weren't willing to make their trade there is a good chance the Fish get him for less. Therefore, our involvement was good for the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Maybe I’m miss reading what happened. However, if I’m not, and the Dolphins weren’t previously inloved, and Rosenhaus goes to tell the Dolphins, hey you better get involved or he’s going to the Jets, isn’t that looking out for the best interest of the Dolphins more than Hill? Did Hill get more money? An agents job is to create interest in a player so the player gets the most money possible. That includes playing teams against each other, or looking for late-in suitors who don't want their rival getting a guy. Had nothing to do with the Dolphins per se, and everything to do with getting the most possible for Hill, both financially and client-desired. We're got chumped, as we often do. An agent played us (cheap Jets) to get a better deal from a better team in a better place for his clients wishes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Like signing Greg Van Roten, but a state. With each, it's very easy to get burnt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: Did Hill get more money? An agents job is to create interest in a player so the player gets the most money possible. That includes playing teams against each other, or looking for late-in suitors who don't want their rival getting a guy. Had nothing to do with the Dolphins per se, and everything to do with getting the most possible for Hill, both financially and client-desired. We're got chumped, as we often do. An agent played us (cheap Jets) to get a better deal from a better team in a better place for his clients wishes. I don’t know. I thought I read yesterday the Jets offered more money? Maybe that was inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 Chiefs signed Valdes-Scantling to replace Hill. Solid signing. Aaron Rodgers is going to be throwing passes exclusively to Joe Rogan at this point. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Tyreke Hill has Tua as his QB. I'm so scared. https://25.media.tumblr.com/c155728ae5fbc56fa2195e32d52ff9cb/tumblr_mrcau7mO5W1rqd0kpo1_400.gif 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: That doesn't disprove my point that the amount the Dolphins had to give up was driven by what the Jets were willing to give. If the Jets weren't willing to make their trade there is a good chance the Fish get him for less. Therefore, our involvement was good for the Jets. Your point is silly though. The Jets set the terms before Miami was even aware of a possible trade. When the player’s agent made them aware, all they had to do was match the Jets offer. They knew if they did that, Hill would play for them. So did the Jets set the terms? Technically yes, when they were bidding against no one. So what they really did was Miami’s leg work and heavy lifting. Then after they did, Miami stole the prize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj71787 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The NFL has to do something about players who don't look at big markets because of taxes. Don't know if Hill put this in his decision but if you were being paid millions would you rather pay 9% tax or have no state tax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Maybe I’m miss reading what happened. However, if I’m not, and the Dolphins weren’t previously inloved, and Rosenhaus goes to tell the Dolphins, hey you better get involved or he’s going to the Jets, isn’t that looking out for the best interest of the Dolphins more than Hill? Is Rosenhaus doing it for competition's sake, or because his client WANTS Miami. If Hill wants Miami, which all evidence points to, then Rosenhaus was just doing his job. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Good Fck him. Fckn turd of of a human being p.o.s PussySent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Your point is silly though. The Jets set the terms before Miami was even aware of a possible trade. When the player’s agent made them aware, all they had to do was match the Jets offer. They knew if they did that, Hill would play for them. So did the Jets set the terms? Technically yes, when they were bidding against no one. How do you know? Were you in the room where it happened? I doubt it. How do you know there wasn't a back and forth on the contract terms or a bidding war when the Jets knew the Fish were involved? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: If Metcalf gets traded, we likely are losing out on him for the same reasons. Dude wouldn't want to play for the Chiefs because it gets too cold. Adams to Vegas. Hill to Miami. There is a theme with these diva WRs. I'm pretty sure he's talking about leaving the door open, not the weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Your point is silly though. The Jets set the terms before Miami was even aware of a possible trade. When the player’s agent made them aware, all they had to do was match the Jets offer. They knew if they did that, Hill would play for them. So did the Jets set the terms? Technically yes, when they were bidding against no one. So what they really did was Miami’s leg work and heavy lifting. Then after they did, Miami stole the prize. Or… as @T0mShane said… “they chucked us.” I don't think you understand how negotiations work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I don’t know. I thought I read yesterday the Jets offered more money? Maybe that was inaccurate. I think when Douglas says the Jets offered “more money,” it’s just “more money” in the first two years of the deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: It's Joe's fault. He should have bought Florida. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, jj71787 said: The NFL has to do something about players who don't look at big markets because of taxes. Don't know if Hill put this in his decision but if you were being paid millions would you rather pay 9% tax or have no state tax? I think this is overstated. When guys are negotiating at this level of contract, they don’t sweat the tax rates. Berrios said in an interview a few weeks ago that he wanted to play in a state with no income tax and he still came back to the Jets. The Bills, Rams, and Chargers aren’t losing guys because of the tax rate. The Jets lose guys because the Jets suck. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So Douglas did everything right and he is still wrong? In any case that a$$hole Douglas cost me 3 picks in the jetnation draft. bastard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 but but but JD is terrible and once again failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 He is going to fail in Miami and I will love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, prime21 said: Tyreke Hill has Tua as his QB. I'm so scared. https://25.media.tumblr.com/c155728ae5fbc56fa2195e32d52ff9cb/tumblr_mrcau7mO5W1rqd0kpo1_400.gif Deebo had Jimmy G. in the new HC of Miami's offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Whatever, it'll be funny when Whitehead blows him up on a crossing route, and forces a fumble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Maybe I’m miss reading what happened. However, if I’m not, and the Dolphins weren’t previously inloved, and Rosenhaus goes to tell the Dolphins, hey you better get involved or he’s going to the Jets, isn’t that looking out for the best interest of the Dolphins more than Hill? His client is from Miami and probably asked him to see if the Dolphins were interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Who cares - I hope he outright stinks in Miami. He just might with Tua out there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I don't think you understand how negotiations work. Whatever dude. Believe what you want. The player told you what happened. The Chiefs told you both offers were equal. They were fine with either one. The agent told you what he did, and why. But you know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: So Douglas did everything right and he is still wrong? In any case that a$$hole Douglas cost me 3 picks in the jetnation draft. bastard. That’s the real crime here. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, prime21 said: Tyreke Hill has Tua as his QB. I'm so scared. https://25.media.tumblr.com/c155728ae5fbc56fa2195e32d52ff9cb/tumblr_mrcau7mO5W1rqd0kpo1_400.gif He can take bubble screens yard. They can do bubble screens to both sides of the field with Hill and Waddle on every other play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 23 hours ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said: I strongly believe, as someone mentioned in other thread: JD drove up the price and NEVER would have paid that much. He just KILLED the fins cap and drafts for the foreseeable future; only exacerbated if the fins don’t produce and win with all that FA $$$ spent. Rosenhuas, like ALL OTHER PLAYER AGENTS used the Jets for more $$$. JD obliged knowing full well Hill was always going to choose Miami; like Antonio Winfield, Anthony Barr, Favre, etc: players USE THE JETS to get what they want from another team! JD was Machiavelli’s The Prince in driving up the price 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Well at least we can move on, good for JD on driving up the price for him at least ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I'm still trying to figure out why, with a built-to-win-now team, did the Chiefs allow Hill to leave vs. extending him a couple of years and restructuring guys like Mahomes, Clark, Kelce, etc. to create the cap room? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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