Matt39 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, Augustiniak said: I was thinking something along these lines. They could be drafting an LT and want the more experienced Tomlinson at RG to pair with him and plan on trading becton. This also would be why saleh keeps touting becton. If they could get a late 1st round pick for becton i think they take it. No one is giving up a pick for Becton let alone a first. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I'm not surprised by this at all. I am a little surprised they are announcing it. With all the chatter about cross-training, they should have been able to just play everybody everywhere and then decide what works best. Not sure why they didn't do that, or at least say they were doing that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: I'm not surprised by this at all. I am a little surprised they are announcing it. With all the chatter about cross-training, they should have been able to just play everybody everywhere and then decide what works best. Not sure why they didn't do that, or at least say they were doing that. Cross training just enables the team to have flexibility. They still want to give their players clarity on where they will be assigned to play Day 1. You don't want AVT spending all offseason working on playing LG and then break the news to him about playing RG when he arrives in camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I'm not surprised by this at all. I am a little surprised they are announcing it. With all the chatter about cross-training, they should have been able to just play everybody everywhere and then decide what works best. Not sure why they didn't do that, or at least say they were doing that. If anything, maybe it confuses teams about whether the jets want to go OL at 4. It sure sounds like it’s a possibility based on the presser. Which would mean the jets want teams taking OL ahead of them so they can grab an edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: They want AVT playing next to Becton If you are going to be a right handed run team (most are) it is the smart move. If the Jets feel confident in Becton's return, how tempting is it for JD to target Linderbaum to complete the rebuild of his O line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drums Posted March 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Matt39 said: No one is giving up a pick for Becton let alone a first. True, JD never gets good compensation in trades. That’s why he had to cut Blake Cashman a few weeks ago. Oh wait. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I can't wait for AVT to be announced as the RT and we draft a guard in the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted March 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Matt39 said: No one is giving up a pick for Becton let alone a first. Nobody is giving two firsts and a third for Jamal Adams. Nobody is giving a second, fourth, and sixth rounder for Sam Darnold. Nobody is giving a sixth for Blake Cashman. 8 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Nobody is giving two firsts and a third for Jamal Adams. Nobody is giving a second, fourth, and sixth rounder for Sam Darnold. Nobody is giving a sixth for Blake Cashman. JD busting out his Mesmero powers on the other GMs. "All your picks are belong to us..." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, Matt39 said: No one is giving up a pick for Becton let alone a first. Saleh is really talking up becton and with the OL quality at 4 it may simply make sense to take the tackle at 4 this year. This would mean trying to deal becton. This is definitely one possible path. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: Saleh is really talking up becton and with the OL quality at 4 it may simply make sense to take the tackle at 4 this year. This would mean trying to deal becton. This is definitely one possible path. Or he just becomes a backup. If he’s ever healthy enough to play again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Surprising but the switch is a lot easier for a guard than a tackle. That said I would have strongly considered the veteran making the switch before taking a chance at disrupting the 2nd year players development. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Or he just becomes a backup. If he’s ever healthy enough to play again. Possibly. But saleh is pumping becton up too much right before the draft, seems artificial. And he doesn’t fit the offensive system they’re running. I can easily see them drafting ekongwu or cross, trading becton and then going edge at 10. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Possibly. But saleh is pumping becton up too much right before the draft, seems artificial. And he doesn’t fit the offensive system they’re running. I can easily see them drafting ekongwu or cross, trading becton and then going edge at 10. If I had my guess the organization has already moved on from him and will either trade or just keep deactivated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp561 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Guilhermezmc said: At this point **** mekhi becton Grow up man. We're all frustrated with Bectons situation but he obviously wants to be out there 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp561 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: No one is giving up a pick for Becton let alone a first. Some of you just get on here and say anything.. you do realize we got a 4th for Herndon? A 6th for BLAKE CASHMAN 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Cp561 said: Some of you just get on here and say anything.. you do realize we got a 4th for Herndon? A 6th for BLAKE CASHMAN We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: If I had my guess the organization has already moved on from him and will either trade or just keep deactivated. I tend to agree at this point. The FAs they’re getting are of better quality and last year’s draft was pretty good too. Becton and mims clearly have not fit in with the new culture and i do believe there is a chance douglas trades becton for what he can get, drafts a tackle and moves on. I could also see douglas maxing out on a trade by taking 2023 draft picks back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, section314 said: Two possible reasons. 1) Avt way more versatile. 2) They liked Avt and Fant side by side. Fant ultimately will be RT, meaning they either believe in Becton or #4 will be Cross and Becton will be traded. If they can't get a 1st round pick for Becton, then It's not happening. Becton deserves the opportunity to play this year and prove that the past doesn't portray who he really is. This is year #3, which is the prove it or lose it year. For the Jets to move on from Becton, they would need to be compensated in a way that the Jets believe he can still dominate at the tackle spot, and be healthy for an entire year. If the Jets are offered a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Becton, I believe they would turn it down today. If Becton plays for the Jets this season and flops, then trading Becton for less than a 1st round pick would become a reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Cross training just enables the team to have flexibility. They still want to give their players clarity on where they will be assigned to play Day 1. You don't want AVT spending all offseason working on playing LG and then break the news to him about playing RG when he arrives in camp. I didn't say they shouldn't give the players clarity. I sadi that they shouldn't announce it. Now if, for example, AVT is falling on his face on the right side and they have to switch they have to admit it and can't pretend that was the plan all along. Breaking the news to the player does not mandate "breaking the news.": 1 hour ago, Augustiniak said: If anything, maybe it confuses teams about whether the jets want to go OL at 4. It sure sounds like it’s a possibility based on the presser. Which would mean the jets want teams taking OL ahead of them so they can grab an edge. How does it make a difference? They still have the same guys playing guard. Maybe the news about Becton still not being ready, but what's the difference who plays left or right guard? They aren't replacing either guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: So Becton’s 4 week injury is stretching into 7 months +? If that’s true there was more to the injury than they told us probably. In his videos he’s not exactly stressing the knee. admit I didn’t study the videos lol but what i saw i wondered about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I can't wait for AVT to be announced as the RT and we draft a guard in the second round. Isn’t that wasting his top-end athleticism and footwork speed/talent? He’s an excellent G and has potential as a finesse LT (but not ideal arm length) due to his ability to move extremely well for his size; he’s not a Brutish mauler with above average power and girth which is better suited for the RT, no? That’s why most people see Becton as having to make the switch to RT (has better profile attributes)rather than AVT to OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82nd Airborne Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, ganggreen305 said: Very Jetsy. That's an overstatement. They have the rights to revise their plans and it makes sense to have Tomlinson play his natural position where he was a pro bowler. AVT had previous success at RG and could benefit from Tomlinson's leadership. It's a win-win and not as jetsy as people are perceiving it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, 82nd Airborne said: That's an overstatement. They have the rights to revise their plans and it makes sense to have Tomlinson play his natural position where he was a pro bowler. AVT had previous success at RG and could benefit from Tomlinson's leadership. It's a win-win and not as jetsy as people are perceiving it. Welcome to Jet Fan/Writer Ad Libs. George Fant Mekhi Becton is a terrible LT The Jets are idiotic if they let keep Berrios go Joe Douglas is clueless if he drafts _____________ 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I always assumed after the Tomlinson signing that AVT would play next to Becton and assumed that would be on the right side. At this point in their careers AVT and Becton are better in the run game than in pass pro. Fant is better in pass pro. Tomlinson is fairly equal in both. So to me it makes complete sense to pair Fant and Tomlinson on Zach’s blind side and AVT and Becton on the right side. Also, strictly from a technique stand point, switching sides for a Guard in a zone scheme shouldn’t be a huge learning curve. I’ve never seen it taught from a Left side vs right side perspective. That doesn’t mean it isn’t taught that way, I’ve just never seen it. Usually it’s play side vs back side footwork. At least on Outsize zones. I think the switch would be more difficult for a heavy gap scheme player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 hours ago, SR24 said: <br /> A ball of butcher knives, huh? Well that's the death knell of Becton's career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 hours ago, New York Mick said: Why would you switch AVT? He was solid at last year. Probably because they intent to do more running to their strong side. That is usually the case with most teams. Given that, they probably see Tomlinson as the faster of the two and able to get out and pull to the right while they see AVT as more of a mauler, hole blaster. If you recall the Jets line with Brick, Faneca, Mangold, Moore, Woody. Their running game was almost 90 % to the right. The elite run blocker, Faneca would pull and Moore would blast open a hole in the A or B gap. Worked beautifully all the time even though the opposing defense knew it was coming. I watched AVT play. He is a good all around guard, but more of a mauler/hole blaster like Moore was and less of a pulling guard. AVT is also a very good pass blocker. With your QB going to his right so often, you want a great pass blocking guard on that side. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 At first glance it seems stupid to make a young player switch positions after one year of showing a lot of promise and talent at his original position. But really, if AVT can't transition from LG to RG, than he's no good of a lineman and wasn't worth his draft slot. I suppose you could also say the same thing about Tomlinson, but maybe it makes sense to the coaches. I dunno. Just hope it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, OilfieldJet said: Two solid Guards flanking a weak center and lacking a OT. JD has got to be considering OL in Round 1. Becton is 335 pounds. He’s not hard to see. 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Tomlinson is 33 years old and has a 3 year contract out in 2 years. AVT is in year 2 of a 5 year rookie contract. So it makes sense to let LT play LG for 2-3 years and then let AVT take over after that. CM is not a bad Center. He is an OK center but probably a bit overpaid, which is bad in the world of JD, who wants everyone underpaid. JD needs to find a C to take over for CM next year or get ready to extend him. CM can't be franchised-too expensive for a C. I would not fall off of my chair if Linderbaum is available at 35. The Jets only have 2 T on the roster. Drafting a successor to Fant or Becton is not a horrible idea if he is the BPA at 4 or 10. He becomes the swing T. Does not help the team in 2022 much, but saves a disaster in 2023, which is the real season that matters I think. I do think the best scenario is a trade of Becton that allows us to draft an EDGE or WR in addition to a T to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 AVT played good at lg, lets hope the move isn’t detrimental. On the positive, maybe this will make it more palatable for Becton to move to the right side. Might help his potentially bruised ego. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Nobody is giving two firsts and a third for Jamal Adams. Nobody is giving a second, fourth, and sixth rounder for Sam Darnold. Nobody is giving a sixth for Blake Cashman. How did I forget that nobody is giving a fourth rounder for Chris Herndon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, SR24 said: My original plan was to have Scarlett Johansson as my wife but I switched someone else into that spot and just moved Scarlett to the spank bank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, SR24 said: Quote Jets considering having Zach Wilson throw left-handed this year. Believe he can adapt and that it might improve his passing. - Adam Schefter @adamschefter March 28, 2022 Interesting development. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 hours ago, HighPitch said: a bowling ball with butcher knives? did Saleh actually say that? I guess he doesnt know about dewayne robertson Becton has been hunting boar with a butcher knife as well, so he's covering the legendary Jet bases. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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