UnknownJetFan Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Yeah, but how great would it be seeing DK Metcalf go to the Jets in a trade for which one of the main pieces back is the 2nd round pick Carolina gave us for Sam Darnold? As the kids say, "I can't even!!" The final accounting of these two trades will be interesting, albeit a bit messy. I think it would start to look like Jamal, Darnold, the #23 pick in 2021 (+ a miscellaneous pick or two) used for AVT, DK Metcalf, the #10 overall in 2022 (+ several miscellaneous picks). That's not bad at all considering what both Jamal and Sam (option year) ended up being paid and how their trajectories as players have continued to deteriorate. That is where JD shows his very good sales abilities. He was able to push the fact that both of them were better players then they ended up being. Now Jamal actually played much better on the Jets than he has on the Hawks since we had a better D at that stage he was here. Darnold was sold likely by both JD and the Panthers that with having a RB like Macaffrey and getting his favorite WR Robbie over there would make him play at a high level. That is a good sell since Darnold is merely a game manager you do not want making decisions that very good to great QBs need to make. For him to succeed you need the running game and D to be operating at a high efficiency all the time or he tries to do too much and fails. Heck he makes Cousins look like a great QB when we all know that is not the case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Watch JD get DK + SEA 2nd for 35 and 38 Honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 DK has the same leverage as Hill. It’s going to coat significant draft capital. Most likely no team will reach a deal without agreeing to an extension with DK. So if he says he won’t sign long-term with that team it could kill the trade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Trade 35 & 38 for Metcalf Trade down from #4 to recoup a 2nd. Take Jameson Williams at #10 Step 4, profit. Step 5 a year from now remove Corey and Insert Jameson.. i like it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I sure hope they try for DK. I hope they try for AJ Brown too (although that might be a non starter). Going into the draft needing a WR1 takes away some flexibility (to the point that some are saying we might spend the #4 pick on a WR in this class-insane!). It would be nice to have that one spot squared away pre-draft. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 here's a question why would DK Metcalf want to play for NYJ? if the answer is purely "money," well, we've seen that movie before all the reasons to not make the Hill trade apply here it's JD getting desperate in year 4 of 6 turns out his grand plan to build through the draft is only when there's no pressure and when Woodrow is out of town JD knows another suspect draft, another ZW 50% passing year, he's toast. The draft can't actually be relied upon as anything more than a dice roll. So he's making moves that are in HIS short term best interest and go against all that "slow build" stuff he's been preaching 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: here's a question why would DK Metcalf want to play for NYJ? if the answer is purely "money," well, we've seen that movie before The answer is and will always be money in professional sports. Unless you already made enough and your ring chasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Scoop24 said: The answer is and will always be money in professional sports. Trumaine Johnson and Leveon Bell had similar philosophies the trick is to find someone who won't play "JUST" for money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The Packers & Chiefs say hi. I actually feel like AJ Brown is the best chance given the Titans cap situation this year and next. Same. And I just don't see Seattle eager to do another deal with the Jets 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, bitonti said: Trumaine Johnson and Leveon Bell had similar philosophies the trick is to find someone who won't play "JUST" for money Neither of these players where in there prime . Dk is only 3 years into his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, bitonti said: here's a question why would DK Metcalf want to play for NYJ? if the answer is purely "money," well, we've seen that movie before all the reasons to not make the Hill trade apply here it's JD getting desperate in year 4 of 6 turns out his grand plan to build through the draft is only when there's no pressure and when Woodrow is out of town JD knows another suspect draft, another ZW 50% passing year, he's toast. The draft can't actually be relied upon as anything more than a dice roll. So he's making moves that are in HIS short term best interest and go against all that "slow build" stuff he's been preaching Wait, so do you want a slow build or not? Are you saying trade for Metcalf or no? You just basically said that there's nothing he can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen305 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 So tired of all these WR rumors. I can't wait until the draft is here. I would rather get a WR at #10 and at one of our 2nds. Let them grow with Zach. Then we still have Moore, Berrios and Davis. (Moore for the long term) But DK for our two 2nds would be sweet too! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 On the latest Connor Hughes pod, he says that Douglas set all of his FA contracts up to leave room for a major trade, but the problem they’re having is that nobody wants to sign an extension with the Jets if they have other options. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 no thanks hill and adams are guys I would have paid a huge randsom for dk no thanks-hard pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 If d parker gets released I would go after him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Trade 35 & 38 for Metcalf Trade down from #4 to recoup a 2nd. Take Jameson Williams at #10 Step 4, profit. If they trade for Metcalf and lose 2 of the top 4 picks in the draft, there is no way in the world that they draft a receiver early. Not a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Hex said: Watch JD get DK + SEA 2nd for 35 and 38 Honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised But the contract. He’s going to want 33 million 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Speculation: Will Jets make a run at DK Metcalf?. Shouldn't it say "pass" instead of "run"? No wonder Zach had such a rough rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Hex said: Watch JD get DK + SEA 2nd for 35 and 38 Honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised In addition to 2 future #1's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, kmnj said: If d parker gets released I would go after him NO. He's the ultimate NFL band-aid-boy. He is always hurt and he never plays hurt. He is as soft as Charmin. He makes Becton look like iron man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Larz said: But the contract. He’s going to want 33 million Oh noes. Not muh cap space! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: If they trade for Metcalf and lose 2 of the top 4 picks in the draft, there is no way in the world that they draft a receiver early. Not a chance. Would you like to fight about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, kmnj said: no thanks hill and adams are guys I would have paid a huge randsom for dk no thanks-hard pass Adams and Hill are old by NFL WR standards. They are about to decline. Metcalf has his issues, but he is in his prime and the Jets would get 4-5 years of his top production. He's a much better investment than Hill and Adams. Show me one 29 year old receiver who produced in the past 3 seasons. Do you want to pay top dollar for the next Julio Jones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: On the latest Connor Hughes pod, he says that Douglas set all of his FA contracts up to leave room for a major trade, but the problem they’re having is that nobody wants to sign an extension with the Jets if they have other options. Cooper for a 4th Could have easily made it work. This is what we’ll be talking about in 2 years, not Hill when you can’t keep UCONN nose tackles, you have a problem lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, LockeJET said: DK has the same leverage as Hill. It’s going to coat significant draft capital. Most likely no team will reach a deal without agreeing to an extension with DK. So if he says he won’t sign long-term with that team it could kill the trade. If DK would turn down a pretty big contract to go to any trade partner it would be a somewhat surprise, unless he wants to gamble on himself and post good enough numbers this year to get a better contract than what he would get via trade. Now, lets keep in mind that he doesn't even know who the QB on his team will be that will be starting and that QB may struggle to where DK won't even look average. So, with that, he would show he is not too bright if he kills any trade deal that nets him a pretty good contract, and if that stupid is not worth trading for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: If DK would turn down a pretty big contract to go to any trade partner it would be a somewhat surprise, unless he wants to gamble on himself and post good enough numbers this year to get a better contract than what he would get via trade. Now, lets keep in mind that he doesn't even know who the QB on his team will be that will be starting and that QB may struggle to where DK won't even look average. So, with that, he would show he is not too bright if he kills any trade deal that nets him a pretty good contract, and if that stupid is not worth trading for. Yeah, I think he's getting a new contract either way. He's either going to re-sign with Seattle - if they're willing to pay his price or he's getting traded - and that trade partner is likely to be the Jets. Just a matter of if he's willing to really play hardball with Seattle. He's 24 and can reasonably hold out for a year - if he knows a $100m+ contract is waiting for him - rather than play for $4mm in '22... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramsci Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I think there is an issue with Douglas' approach to the trading market. While the benefits of maximizing the value of assets in trades are clear, it also comes with teams that we previously scalped not being interested in collaborating with us. On the short term it is the best approach, on the long term I feel like it might hurt us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, bitonti said: here's a question why would DK Metcalf want to play for NYJ? if the answer is purely "money," well, we've seen that movie before all the reasons to not make the Hill trade apply here it's JD getting desperate in year 4 of 6 turns out his grand plan to build through the draft is only when there's no pressure and when Woodrow is out of town JD knows another suspect draft, another ZW 50% passing year, he's toast. The draft can't actually be relied upon as anything more than a dice roll. So he's making moves that are in HIS short term best interest and go against all that "slow build" stuff he's been preaching Year 3 of 6. He's in no danger until year 5 of 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 These poor bastards have what 29 days to fill with stories? it’s gonna get weird next week lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said: If DK would turn down a pretty big contract to go to any trade partner it would be a somewhat surprise, unless he wants to gamble on himself and post good enough numbers this year to get a better contract than what he would get via trade. Now, lets keep in mind that he doesn't even know who the QB on his team will be that will be starting and that QB may struggle to where DK won't even look average. So, with that, he would show he is not too bright if he kills any trade deal that nets him a pretty good contract, and if that stupid is not worth trading for. If the Jets are the only game in town then of course but if Seattle has multiple packages that they like, then DK can somewhat dictate where he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Tyler Polumbus is a sports radio host here in Denver. Has "contacts" in Seattle. Says DK is up for trade. Jets and Seahawks are already talking. Chiefs involved as well. Says Seattle looking to tank for Bryce Young. Obviously take this was a massive grain of salt, but I figured I'd pass it along. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Larz said: But the contract. He’s going to want 33 million Yep. If JD thinks he's worth it, he will make a run at him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hex said: Yep. If JD thinks he's worth it, he will make a run at him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Tyler Polumbus is a sports radio host here in Denver. Has "contacts" in Seattle. Says DK is up for trade. Jets and Seahawks are already talking. Chiefs involved as well. Says Seattle looking to tank for Bryce Young. Obviously take this was a massive grain of salt, but I figured I'd pass it along. Now THAT would be a hilarious Adams development lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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