Biggs Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Last year we were a horrible NFL team. Crappy is the next logical step in the rebuild followed by mediocre, decent, good, very good, championship. 7 and 10 is a clasic crappy NFL team. I'm going with the over. Thank you Joe Douglas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Guys! WHAT YALLL EXPECT?!! WINS?? JD need MORE CAP space and draft picks to win. 2023 target will now be moved to 2024 All kidding aside about the ridiculous lenght of the rebuild, this team still isnt good enough. We need more weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 seems about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerNation Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: 2023 is the year they become one of the elites in the AFC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Bet the under . Where... where was he keeping the dollar? ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBen Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 At this point I would bet the house on over 5.5. Usually i'll admit i'm blindly optimistic every offseason, but this just seems ridiculous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, freestater said: Where... where was he keeping the dollar? ? @JiFapono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, BroadwayBen said: At this point I would bet the house on over 5.5. Usually i'll admit i'm blindly optimistic every offseason, but this just seems ridiculous! Oh ye of little faith...they can suck the life out of any season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBen Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, peebag said: Oh ye of little faith...they can suck the life out of any season. True, but if we can't get 6 wins this season, then Douglas may have to be gone. its been 12 seasons since the playoffs, and only one of those seasons were we even close to making the playoffs (2015). This fanbase if starving for semi-competent football. I want to play meaningful games past the first week of November for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Bronx said: anyone who takes the over is out of his mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, peebag said: @JiFapono Multi options, honestly. You got to scratch and sniff test it to find out for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: anyone who takes the over is out of his mind The Jets with a roster equaling maybe the Wagner Football program won 4 games in 2021. You are saying they are not capable of winning 2 more games this year? If so thats a stunning indictment on Wilson and this entire rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, BroadwayBen said: At this point I would bet the house on over 5.5. Usually i'll admit i'm blindly optimistic every offseason, but this just seems ridiculous! I'm rationally pessimistic. I don't bet on the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, kevinc855 said: The Jets with a roster equaling maybe the Wagner Football program won 4 games in 2021. You are saying they are not capable of winning 2 more games this year? If so thats a stunning indictment on Wilson and this entire rebuild. So how much are you betting on that over? Let's see. I wouldn't touch it this year after what we saw last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Opponent QB play can be a factor ,, but i see 8 winnable games . Knowing the Jets we will probably get 6 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kevinc855 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: So how much are you betting on that over? Let's see. I wouldn't touch it this year after what we saw last year. Personally, yes I think we can win 6 games. This teams basement number should be 8 wins in a 17 game season or we are not "on pace" as we are supposed to be with this rebuild. The Bengals won 4 games in 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Think we go 2-4 in the AFC East. What teams we beating 4x to get 6 wins and go 4-11 outside the Division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 This year is huge for Joe Douglas and the Jets. They can’t lose this bet. I’ve been saying all along that they need to avoid double-digit losses this season. I think they feel the pressure, too. The WR misses are in our collective recency bias, but JD did good work shoring up the secondary, the OL, and revamping the TE room. He added a situational pass rusher. Last year the team played better, Zach included, even as the more players made their way to the infirmary. They need to build on that. The difference will be how much JD’s two biggest decisions so far, Saleh and Wilson, improve next season. Jets have last year’s big ticket free agents, Lawson and Corey Davis, coming back. Still have four picks in the top 40 to make. There may still be a trade in the works for another WR. Who knows? I don’t know if it’s quite make or break yet because I don’t know where the line will be for the Johnsons in order to start firing people or demanding a new QB, but it’s close. Another 10 or more loss season certainly puts everyone on the hot seat in 2023 at a bare minimum, and I’m sure they’d all like to avoid that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, varjet said: Think we go 2-4 in the AFC East. What teams we beating 4x to get 6 wins and go 4-11 outside the Division? We should beat the Lions, Bears and Jags at home.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 i was more optimistic before the AFC got 2 elite QBs who we happen to play. and the play should have been for Watson. he didnt want Clev either until they threw tons of money at him. we are seriously outgunned at QB compared to the rest of the league. i like Zach but that was the play, not getting Hill. so yeah 5 -6 wins sounds about right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, slats said: This year is huge for Joe Douglas and the Jets. They can’t lose this bet. I’ve been saying all along that they need to avoid double-digit losses this season. I think they feel the pressure, too. The WR misses are in our collective recency bias, but JD did good work shoring up the secondary, the OL, and revamping the TE room. He added a situational pass rusher. Last year the team played better, Zach included, even as the more players made their way to the infirmary. They need to build on that. The difference will be how much JD’s two biggest decisions so far, Saleh and Wilson, improve next season. Jets have last year’s big ticket free agents, Lawson and Corey Davis, coming back. Still have four picks in the top 40 to make. There may still be a trade in the works for another WR. Who knows? I don’t know if it’s quite make or break yet because I don’t know where the line will be for the Johnsons in order to start firing people or demanding a new QB, but it’s close. Another 10 or more loss season certainly puts everyone on the hot seat in 2023 at a bare minimum, and I’m sure they’d all like to avoid that. I think you sum it be nicely. Although I still think they need more weapons, they may still add them via draft and late FA deals. There is really no excuse to lose this bet, that would make the jets 5-12 at best this year? Yikes..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Irish Jet said: And we all know they fear Mike White so that's not happening. LOL, yeah Mike White has Saleh and Douglas shaking in their boots - that's totally why they tendered him. Ya'll are funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, kmnj said: our roster is better but so is the roster of the bills pats and dolphins bills and fins in particular . I get having hope as that is all we have right now but optimism and patience only goes so far Who cares? How many wins did we get against the Bills, Pats and fish a year ago? 0 And the Pats don’t strike me as improved. Fish have a new staff, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, slats said: This year is huge for Joe Douglas and the Jets. They can’t lose this bet. I’ve been saying all along that they need to avoid double-digit losses this season. I think they feel the pressure, too. The WR misses are in our collective recency bias, but JD did good work shoring up the secondary, the OL, and revamping the TE room. He added a situational pass rusher. Last year the team played better, Zach included, even as the more players made their way to the infirmary. They need to build on that. The difference will be how much JD’s two biggest decisions so far, Saleh and Wilson, improve next season. Jets have last year’s big ticket free agents, Lawson and Corey Davis, coming back. Still have four picks in the top 40 to make. There may still be a trade in the works for another WR. Who knows? I don’t know if it’s quite make or break yet because I don’t know where the line will be for the Johnsons in order to start firing people or demanding a new QB, but it’s close. Another 10 or more loss season certainly puts everyone on the hot seat in 2023 at a bare minimum, and I’m sure they’d all like to avoid that. I think they need a minimum of 7-8 wins with Wilson playing competently (basically, double their wins again)- so right in the ballpark of avoiding double digit losses, as you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I think they need a minimum of 7-8 wins with Wilson playing competently (basically, double their wins again)- so right in the ballpark of avoiding double digit losses, as you are saying. If they only get to 7 wins, I’m really hoping for a tie along the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, slats said: If they only get to 7 wins, I’m really hoping for a tie along the way. If we only get 7 wins, I'm hoping for 10 ties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: The Jets have only won more than 5 games once since 2015 and the AFC has more talent than maybe ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Hex said: That's a pretty good point there. Jets still have some pretty easy teams on the schedule I think they can beat the Dolphins once, but I don't really know how good those guys are yet. We're playing the Jags, Bears, Lions at home. There's 5 games I think the Jets should have a bottom line expectation to win (Except possibly the Phins at home). Then there's teams like the Browns (Who I'm pretty sure we would lose to but not 100%. Probably should have made them a red x), the Steelers (Who have Mitch Trubisky at QB and only one WR with Claypool), and the Vikings (Who have been mediocre since 2017). So 5.5 is reasonable, but I think the Jets should win more games than that. Looking at that .... I see 6 wins. I don't think the Jets will beat the Dolphins twice, the Vikings in Minnesota, no chance of beating Watson and the Browns in Cleveland, and I think the Jets will drop a game to either Jax, Chicago or Detroit. Douglas should probably be fired if the team goes 6-11, but he won't be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Hex said: That's a pretty good point there. Jets still have some pretty easy teams on the schedule I think they can beat the Dolphins once, but I don't really know how good those guys are yet. We're playing the Jags, Bears, Lions at home. There's 5 games I think the Jets should have a bottom line expectation to win (Except possibly the Phins at home). Then there's teams like the Browns (Who I'm pretty sure we would lose to but not 100%. Probably should have made them a red x), the Steelers (Who have Mitch Trubisky at QB and only one WR with Claypool), and the Vikings (Who have been mediocre since 2017). So 5.5 is reasonable, but I think the Jets should win more games than that. the schedule is brutal - they've only gotten like 2-4% better in Free agency they haven't won a division game in 3 years the Seattle game is a 3000 mile plus road trip it could be 4 games again you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, RoadFan said: ZW is the only 2nd year QB that will play in the same system. The roster is already better. I think the difference between winning 4-5 games or winning 7-8 will be the placekicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, slats said: The WR misses are in our collective recency bias, but JD did good work shoring up the secondary, the OL, and revamping the TE room. He added a situational pass rusher. the move here is to bet the under and if the Jets win 6 or more you "bought" yourself a better season aka the emotional hedge patent pending 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Hex said: That's a pretty good point there. Jets still have some pretty easy teams on the schedule I think they can beat the Dolphins once, but I don't really know how good those guys are yet. We're playing the Jags, Bears, Lions at home. There's 5 games I think the Jets should have a bottom line expectation to win (Except possibly the Phins at home). Then there's teams like the Browns (Who I'm pretty sure we would lose to but not 100%. Probably should have made them a red x), the Steelers (Who have Mitch Trubisky at QB and only one WR with Claypool), and the Vikings (Who have been mediocre since 2017). So 5.5 is reasonable, but I think the Jets should win more games than that. Totally agree. I think 6 wins is realistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 13 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: Under, 5 wins is an improvement. It’s a process. If the Jets win 5 games that's a 25% improvement from 2021! Go look at your stock portfolios and tell me you wouldn't take that!!! lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Everyone knows Zach Wilson isn’t good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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