Dcat Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: I still think they may go OT, particularly if KT and Hutch are gone. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I guess then we'll know the truth about Becton, whatever that may be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 4 hours ago, DTereman said: No, they won't. Jets are HIGHLY unlikley to move from 4, whether up or back. They will like 4 people enough to stay put and take who falls to them. Walker is very green in terms of his pass rush plan, but his athletic numbers are obviously impressive. If he's there at 4, I could see it, but certainly not worth trading up from 4 to get. Bryan Thomas potential 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Grandy said: Don't forget leaving the combine early! means nothing. More than a few left early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 22 hours ago, dbatesman said: 40 and bench don’t really translate to success for edge guys. Broad jump and 3-cone do. Gholston had an excellent 3 cone and broad jump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: Didn’t run at the Pro Day, didn’t jump because he said he was trying to avoid injury, did positional drills, and told everyone with a mic that he loves football, really. I wouldn’t draft this guy. This is a dude who misses six weeks with a hamstring pull. Why would he run again? His 40 and his 10 yard at the combine was more than fine.. lol yall really be trying to make everything in something. You know how many players aren’t repeating workouts they already did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Something’s just dont add up with the takes on this board. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dbatesman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: you have to tell them about the 1.05 and so forth I couldn’t remember if it was 1.05 or 1.01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Dwight Englewood said: Gholston had an excellent 3 cone and broad jump He absolutely did not have an “excellent” three cone. His jumps were fine but if you run them through the formula he doesn’t hit the number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Proof other than to just say he is? Any reason anyone would take Karlaftis over him? You could get Mafe in the 2nd Dude clearly youve read the interviews and saw the tv piece. If he spoke like I wanted id be giddy for him. I dont like what he says. I dont like prima donnas. It may not bother you, but its a big negative for me. Id like to double dip. Karlaftis or j johnson plus say Mafe, Eiktbe, (idk the spelling) kinsley, gunther …..seems safer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, HighPitch said: Dude clearly youve read the interviews and saw the tv piece. If he spoke like I wanted id be giddy for him. I dont like what he says. I dont like prima donnas. It may not bother you, but its a big negative for me. Id like to double dip. Karlaftis or j johnson plus say Mafe, Eiktbe, (idk the spelling) kinsley, gunther …..seems safer So it’s what you interpret from an interview. And decided he’s a head case when he has no history of being a head case. What did he say that makes him a head case? No one has ever talked about him having issues, not a coach, not a teammate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Scoop24 said: Why would he run again? His 40 and his 10 yard at the combine was more than fine.. lol yall really be trying to make everything in something. You know how many players aren’t repeating workouts they already did. Has he even deigned to run the three cone or put a vertical on the record? I’m not seeing it anywhere. Similar to Quinnen Williams, who avoided those tests, got drafted at 3, and moves like a slug 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Has he even deigned to run the three cone or put a vertical on the record? I’m not seeing it anywhere. Similar to Quinnen Williams, who avoided those tests, got drafted at 3, and moves like a slug He did a 3 cone .. no vert tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Quinnen Williams, who avoided those tests https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1018917&DraftYear=2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1018917&DraftYear=2019 Delete my account 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: So it’s what you interpret from an interview. And decided he’s a head case when he has no history of being a head case. What did he say that makes him a head case? No one has ever talked about him having issues, not a coach, not a teammate. To be fair, nobody from LSU said a bad word about Jamal Adams character either in the pre-draft process... and KT has a similar style in interviews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: To be fair, nobody from LSU said a bad word about Jamal Adams character either in the pre-draft process... and KT has a similar style in interviews. So now every player who hasn’t had a bad word about his character brought up is a concern, or worse a bad character? There isnt any logic to this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 No, they won't. Jets are HIGHLY unlikley to move from 4, whether up or back. They will like 4 people enough to stay put and take who falls to them. Walker is very green in terms of his pass rush plan, but his athletic numbers are obviously impressive. If he's there at 4, I could see it, but certainly not worth trading up from 4 to get.Walker has 9.5 career sacks in three years of college play. The production simply is not there. Drafting him at 4 due to a great combine would be a grave error, IMHO. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: So now every player who hasn’t had a bad word about his character brought up is a concern, or worse a bad character? There isnt any logic to this It's unfair to notice that a prospect comes off as conceited in interviews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 7 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said: It's unfair to notice that a prospect comes off as conceited in interviews? I commented on your dragging of Jamal into this. That he seemed OK went bad so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 7 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said: To be fair, nobody from LSU said a bad word about Jamal Adams character either in the pre-draft process... and KT has a similar style in interviews. Big difference in their demeanor. KT is all business on and off the field, but off the field happens to be about his brand. Jamal dances, jumps on piles late, celebrates like he made the play, and then blames his teammates for losing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Jet Nut said: So it’s what you interpret from an interview. And decided he’s a head case when he has no history of being a head case. What did he say that makes him a head case? No one has ever talked about him having issues, not a coach, not a teammate. They are biased. Even zach supports mims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: I commented on your dragging of Jamal into this. That he seemed OK went bad so.... Yea I'm saying KT has a similar demeanor to Jamal and we should be wary. 1 hour ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Big difference in their demeanor. KT is all business on and off the field, but off the field happens to be about his brand. Jamal dances, jumps on piles late, celebrates like he made the play, and then blames his teammates for losing. I feel like Jamal's downfall was his pride. He believed himself to be far better than he was and told anyone and everyone how great he was. I'm not denying that a lot of this is speculative and based on a small sample size of interviews, but I definitely think it's fair considering we just went through this with Jamal Adams and we're placing a heavy emphasis on culture building. Clearly he's got talent and plays a far more important position, but it wouldn't be shocking at all, for me at least, if we passed on the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: They are biased. Even zach supports mims None of this changes what you said but ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Yea I'm saying KT has a similar demeanor to Jamal and we should be wary. Now you've completely changed your point. You said no one said Jamal was a bad seed and turned into one therefore KT being a good guy in college means we should worry. Not really good use of logic here. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Now you've completely changed your point. You said no one said Jamal was a bad seed and turned into one therefore KT being a good guy in college means we should worry. Not really good use of logic here. LOL I said; "To be fair, nobody from LSU said a bad word about Jamal Adams character either in the pre-draft process... and KT has a similar style in interviews." And then - "It's unfair to notice that a prospect comes off as conceited in interviews?" And then - "Yea I'm saying KT has a similar demeanor to Jamal and we should be wary." Where did I 'change points' or abandon logic? And to me at least, if I were arguing the other side, the easiest response to someone comparing KT to Jamal would be - "If Jamal was an edge rusher instead of a box safety, I'd be far more lenient in putting up with the delusions of grandeur." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Now you've completely changed your point. You said no one said Jamal was a bad seed and turned into one therefore KT being a good guy in college means we should worry. Not really good use of logic here. LOL Good use of logic? Do you not realize that you are arguing about personal opinions? His red flags dont bother you. Thats fine…… you are entitled to your opinion Others dont have to agree with you or engage in a silly debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: I said; "To be fair, nobody from LSU said a bad word about Jamal Adams character either in the pre-draft process... and KT has a similar style in interviews." And then - "It's unfair to notice that a prospect comes off as conceited in interviews?" And then - "Yea I'm saying KT has a similar demeanor to Jamal and we should be wary." Where did I 'change points' or abandon logic? And to me at least, if I were arguing the other side, the easiest response to someone comparing KT to Jamal would be - "If Jamal was an edge rusher instead of a box safety, I'd be far more lenient in putting up with the delusions of grandeur." Dude hush only jet nut can have an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 2:05 AM, Bruce Harper said: Walker has 9.5 career sacks in three years of college play. The production simply is not there. Drafting him at 4 due to a great combine would be a grave error, IMHO. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I mean he is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 2:05 AM, dbatesman said: He absolutely did not have an “excellent” three cone. His jumps were fine but if you run them through the formula he doesn’t hit the number. Formula lol. If any such formulas ever existed guys like Courtney Brown, Vernon Gholston and Dion Jordan would never happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Interesting take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 KT is exactly the type of dude that finds playing for the Jets not what he expected and shoots his way out of town. How does everyone not see that? He played at half speed last year to protect his ankle. He's Mr business decision 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, bitonti said: KT is exactly the type of dude that finds playing for the Jets not what he expected and shoots his way out of town. How does everyone not see that? He played at half speed last year to protect his ankle. He's Mr business decision And also the inevitable skipping mini camp, OTa’s, off and on training camp and then we get to argue amongst ourselves about why even care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: And also the inevitable skipping mini camp, OTa’s, off and on training camp and then we get to argue amongst ourselves about why even care. Peak Jets is using the 4 pick on KT, then JD deals him for like a 2nd Rd pick in year 3 and we all talk about what a great trade that was and the cycle begins again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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