Jet Nut Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: I liked Peter Schrager’s mock draft picks for the Jets this morning on GMF. Sauce at 4 Jameson Williams at 10 I'd take that 1st in a minute I especially like Sauce with the 4th. I think hes better than the 2nd or 3rd EDGE. I dont agree that CBs cant play and contribute in this passing league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBGreen Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Welcome to #smokescreenSZN, gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 minute ago, PackerNation said: You seem to care a lot. You swing from my balls in practically every thread I post in. Telling you that we don't care about your team is very confusing to you. And you dont have any balls to swing from. You swallowed them a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Please quit quoting the packer. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted April 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, PackerNation said: You seem to care a lot. You swing from my balls in practically every thread I post in. I believe you’ve said something about not being a troll. If you trolled less, you probably wouldn’t have to defend yourself on that front. 12 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Telling you that we don't care about your team is very confusing to you. And you dont have any balls to swing from. You swallowed them a long time ago. And you, jebus, maybe try not to take the bait once in a while. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerNation Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Telling you that we don't care about your team is very confusing to you. And you dont have any balls to swing from. You swallowed them a long time ago. I don't care if you don't care about the Packers. No one has a gun to head asking you to read my comments. The fact you seem obsessed with me is concerning, hence me noticing you swinging from my sack in nearly every thread. The comment you starting crying about and thumbing down was about a rumor involving the Chiefs. The Packers and Chiefs are contenders, teams the masses care about. That was my point. This why these rumors are coming fast and furious. Hope things work out for you.. Take a little toke now and again. Life isn't that serious. Life is grand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: So we need to draft Andy Reid you're saying He can be a bookend tackle with Mekhi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 7 hours ago, doitny said: Over the past few days, a rumor suggesting the Kansas City Chiefs could trade up in the 2022 NFL draft for a wide receiver has emerged. “I got a call last night from somebody who floated this rumor out that they heard about the Chiefs,” said 610’s Fescoe In The Morning. “And it was that the Chiefs trading both 1’s and their second-round picks — whether it’s 40 or 50, depending on how high they want to move up — to get to around Top 5 in the Draft. Now to get to Top 5 in the Draft, they would have to trade their two 1’s and that first second-round pick. If they want to get to 7-8 in the Draft, they can trade their two 1’s and their second second-round pick and move up to there. And the target, from what I heard yesterday, appears to be Garrett Wilson, the wide receiver out of Ohio State.” It didn’t take long for fans to start reacting to the news. Some fans want the team to make the bold move for former Alabama star Jameson Williams. “If they do this, it’s Jameson Williams szn,” the fan said. i know this board will all say to take the trade of two 1st rd and one 2nd rd pick. but Andy Reid is one of the smartest guys out there. the guy who moved to 10 to take Mahomes who most mocks had him going at the end of the 1st rd. if he sees something that he thinks is this good that he is willing to give up that kind of draft capital then we need to keep the pick and draft that guy. same draft he traded a 3rd, 4th and 7th rd pick to move up 20 spots to take Kareem Hunt in the 3rd rd. when Andy Reid wants to send you a boat load of picks to move up you better check your draft board again cause you missed something. and hes not doing this for an OL. No, we don't. The Jets take that deal. We are not KC. KC is gearing up for another SB run, we are just trying to get over 500 at this point. 2 firsts and a second will do a lot more for us than 1 player no matter how good he is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, slimjasi said: The Jets have plenty of picks. The Jets need a few game changers - not more picks. I'd happily trade down if we could get more picks next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted April 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2022 What will be, will be. I doubt any of us fans are changing our minds at this point about which WR is the "best" WR for us, be it one of the 1st round talents, or the usual "nah, wait till the third, all great WR's are found in the third, look at this guy I know about that no one else does, get him" types. And between now and draft day, we're gonna hear 1,000,000 stories about this that and the other thing re: the draft and positions and players. It's smoke season, as one poster above said. So not worried, not even caring. Outside my control, outside even the Jets control in many scenarios. I just hope JD understands how vital WR is, especially with us trying to ensure Wilson doesn't bust, and makes good, smart moves. But ultimately he'll do what he thinks is right, it's his job on the line if we're losers again in 2022 after all. Oooooohm.........Ooooooooohm..........time for Zen. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: This is a weak draft. Assuming you’re getting two good starters at the bottom of the rd 1 is a BIG assumption. I wouldn’t say it’s a weak draft at all. I’d say it’s pretty deep overall. It lacks the high end prospects, but there are a bunch of really solid players throughout the second and third round. I would much rather have picks in the teens, twenties, thirties, and forties than pick 4 and 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: No, we don't. The Jets take that deal. We are not KC. KC is gearing up for another SB run, we are just trying to get over 500 at this point. 2 firsts and a second will do a lot more for us than 1 player no matter how good he is. The Jets don’t take that deal without a 2023 first in the mix. The Jets need impact players. Can’t trade from #4 to two picks at the end of the round without a substantial return. Maybe get a player from them, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Gramsci said: Andy Reid also selected Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first round. No one is perfect in their draft evaluation, specially when you are purely drafting for need some compromise has to be made. I don't think the Jets need more 1st rounds to be honest, as they cause two problems - one short term and one long term. First we have to deal with how much of an impact can a Rookie have on a NFL roster in terms of substantive improvement in the field, the other comes to signing all of them if they hit to second contracts when the time comes. What is wrong with CEH. He got hurt. Everyone here thinks JD is a genius for taking Carter and Moore and both of them got hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: No, we don't. The Jets take that deal. We are not KC. KC is gearing up for another SB run, we are just trying to get over 500 at this point. 2 firsts and a second will do a lot more for us than 1 player no matter how good he is. Yeah, and why do we keep trying to find other teams for the Jets to model their draft strategy after? None of those teams, including any run by Andy Reid, had to rebuild a team following 5 years of Mike Mac. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, slats said: The Jets don’t take that deal without a 2023 first in the mix. The Jets need impact players. Can’t trade from #4 to two picks at the end of the round without a substantial return. Maybe get a player from them, too. You know KC is not going to suck next season. Unless you think the end of the first is in 2023 is going to be a lot better than 2022, what is the difference? As far as the player, KC isn't giving anyone away. We don't need a throw in. The Jets are full of throw in type players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, slats said: I believe you’ve said something about not being a troll. If you trolled less, you probably wouldn’t have to defend yourself on that front. And you, jebus, maybe try not to take the bait once in a while. Just playing, not baited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: You know KC is not going to suck next season. Unless you think the end of the first is in 2023 is going to be a lot better than 2022, what is the difference? As far as the player, KC isn't giving anyone away. We don't need a throw in. The Jets are full of throw in type players JD probably didn’t think Seattle was gonna suck last season, either. I’m just saying, for the Jets to come all the way down from the #4 pick in the draft, KC would have to throw in their 2023 first rounder in addition to their two firsts and second this year. To start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I'd happily trade down if we could get more picks next year. Douglas needs to worry about this draft and adding several major contributors at premium positions or he may not be here to make the picks next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, slats said: JD probably didn’t think Seattle was gonna suck last season, either. I’m just saying, for the Jets to come all the way down from the #4 pick in the draft, KC would have to throw in their 2023 first rounder in addition to their two firsts and second this year. To start. To start? 2 1sts and a 2nd this year plus their 1st next year? Where do I sign? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Gramsci said: Andy Reid also selected Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first round. No one is perfect in their draft evaluation, specially when you are purely drafting for need some compromise has to be made. I don't think the Jets need more 1st rounds to be honest, as they cause two problems - one short term and one long term. First we have to deal with how much of an impact can a Rookie have on a NFL roster in terms of substantive improvement in the field, the other comes to signing all of them if they hit to second contracts when the time comes. yes everyone makes mistakes but did he trade up for Helaire? no he did for Mahomes and Hunt. and i agree i would not do the trade either. enough with getting more draft picks. stay at 4 and 10 and get the best 2 guys that are not OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 3 hours ago, PackerNation said: Jetsons reacted confused to my post because he first doesn't know who George Pickens is(pictured in post) and second because he actually believes the Jets could get 2 first rounders and a 2nd for #4. I don’t like the way you feel the need to call our posters out. You are welcome here but if you keep this snide crap up I will not be. Ok? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said: I liked Peter Schrager’s mock draft picks for the Jets this morning on GMF. Sauce at 4 Jameson Williams at 10 I'd be ok with Sauce at 4, would hate Williams at 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: To start? 2 1sts and a 2nd this year plus their 1st next year? Where do I sign? Honestly? I still don’t love it. On the chart, #4 is 1800 points, and KC’s two firsts and second only add up to 1544. That’s a difference of 266 points, which is roughly what the last pick in the second round is worth (and about where you’d value KC’s 2023 first). So it’s fair value, but meh… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jamesr said: I imagine that IF we ended up with those two late firsts, we'd end up trading back up from one of them for a guy who we like. But as it's not likely to happen it's not worth bothering too much. Perhaps. I also believe we’re going to see WRs go a lot earlier than many projections. Analysts will only learn AFTER the draft the way prospects at WR are weighted due to the gross inflation of their salaries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Neither team has enough ammo to get to the top 5. Nola on the other hand…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: I'd be ok with Sauce at 4, would hate Williams at 10 My ideal 1st 2 rounds go like this . #4 Sauce or Ikwonu , #10 Burks , #35 Ebiketie, #38 Pickens I also love Devin Llloyd but don't see how the Jets can land him w/o a trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted April 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, PackerNation said: You seem to care a lot. You swing from my balls in practically every thread I post in. Yeah, time to do a little swinging yourself. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I don’t like the way you feel the need to call our posters out. You are welcome here but if you keep this snide crap up I will not be. Ok? 57 minutes ago, slats said: I believe you’ve said something about not being a troll. If you trolled less, you probably wouldn’t have to defend yourself on that front. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted April 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I don’t like the way you feel the need to call our posters out. You are welcome here but if you keep this snide crap up I will not be. Ok? Almost any other "NFL Team Fan Forum" has explicit rules about what this troll is doing, and he'd have been banned literally a day ro two after he got here. It's honestly amazing how tolerant we are here of people like this.... 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: No, we don't. The Jets take that deal. We are not KC. KC is gearing up for another SB run, we are just trying to get over 500 at this point. 2 firsts and a second will do a lot more for us than 1 player no matter how good he is. we need really good players. not more draft picks. im sure Buffalo was laughing when KC moved up to take Mahomes who was projected to go late in rd 1. now Buffalo got lucky the next year when we and the other QB picking teams gifted them Josh Allen by leaving him as the last QB on the board or they would be crying right now over that trade., he traded 3 picked to get Hunt. i would rather have Hunt then those 3 picks. if these rumors turn out to be true then we need to get that player. Reid sees something special and in recent history when he is willing to give up alot of picks to move up, those players turn out to be pretty special. JD has tried to get the best WR in the NFL. so he knows we need someone really good there. if Ried is moving up to get one then we better get that guy. my guess is he is worth more then the extra draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 4 hours ago, PackerNation said: Jetsons reacted confused to my post because he first doesn't know who George Pickens is(pictured in post) and second because he actually believes the Jets could get 2 first rounders and a 2nd for #4. Get lost troll. Tired of you after 2 days. Back to kindergarten for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Otoh, what WRs were available to him with that pick? Nelson Agholor? Breshad Perriman? Phillip Dorsett? Devin Smith? Dorial Green-Beckham? Don't get me wrong though. I'm definitely not trying to dismiss your point. It's just that there are always subtleties. EDIT: Turns out Stefon Diggs went in the 5th round that year. Sure but isnt that kind of the point? Many are arguing to just draft a WR top 10 because it's a need despite the prospect. In my example, offensive genius Andy Reid didnt force the issue and they literally went an entire season without a WR catching a TD. I'd venture to say that the Chiefs that season were much more desperate a WR than the 2022 Jets who have a top 5 overall pick and two 2nd round WR's on their roster. Further, this is one draft. He's had 23 and twice, he took a WR in the back half or the 1st round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Warfish said: What will be, will be. I doubt any of us fans are changing our minds at this point about which WR is the "best" WR for us, be it one of the 1st round talents, or the usual "nah, wait till the third, all great WR's are found in the third, look at this guy I know about that no one else does, get him" types. And between now and draft day, we're gonna hear 1,000,000 stories about this that and the other thing re: the draft and positions and players. It's smoke season, as one poster above said. So not worried, not even caring. Outside my control, outside even the Jets control in many scenarios. I just hope JD understands how vital WR is, especially with us trying to ensure Wilson doesn't bust, and makes good, smart moves. But ultimately he'll do what he thinks is right, it's his job on the line if we're losers again in 2022 after all. Oooooohm.........Ooooooooohm..........time for Zen. While I've been a Williams guy (and still am) - this video and tweet from DJ did really get me thinking about the big guys though. Watching Zach he seems very comfortable making these types of throws...I might have changed my mind! Bring on London! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Sure but isnt that kind of the point? Many are arguing to just draft a WR top 10 because it's a need despite the prospect. In my example, offensive genius Andy Reid didnt force the issue and they literally went an entire season without a WR catching a TD. I'd venture to say that the Chiefs that season were much more desperate a WR than the 2022 Jets who have a top 5 overall pick and two 2nd round WR's on their roster. Further, this is one draft. He's had 23 and twice, he took a WR in the back half or the 1st round. I agree with you. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong or anything. Just that there can be more than initially meets the eye. I don't follow college football closely but have read good things about some of these WRs. But I've also read this is a weak draft in general and the top players (including Hutchinson) would be an over-draft. If that's the case, I would imagine a lot of teams would want to trade down (possibly looking to the 2023 draft as well). If Ekwonu or Sauce are legit stars but don't quite fit our most urgent needs, I'd still probably rather take those kinds of guys than over-draft a player. Of course, it really puts us in a bind because we need to give Zach some legit weapons this year. Feels like we're one of the only teams that doesn't seem to do that for our QB. I'd like to see JD at least get creative if he doesn't love the WRs. Maybe grab the top receiving TE plus a good RB (who can catch the ball out of the backfield) to help take the pressure off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, PackerNation said: I don't care if you don't care about the Packers. No one has a gun to head asking you to read my comments. The fact you seem obsessed with me is concerning, hence me noticing you swinging from my sack in nearly every thread. The comment you starting crying about and thumbing down was about a rumor involving the Chiefs. The Packers and Chiefs are contenders, teams the masses care about. That was my point. This why these rumors are coming fast and furious. Hope things work out for you.. Take a little toke now and again. Life isn't that serious. Life is grand. You know Pack when you first came on the board during our joint practice I appreciated the perspective and insight from another teams loyal fan. It appears now that you just want your point to be fact and all discussion and debates turn into insults and childish statements about multiple posters who don’t agree with you. That won’t get you far or respected. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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